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post #11146 of 15304

Hi,

 

it's time for a new iem and i have limit circa 130$. I read many of reviews and i'm choosing between sennheiser ie60 and hifiman re-400 but i can't find any comparison between them (maybe it's obvious). Or vsonic gr06 seems to be great considering it's price, but is it comparable with ie60 and re400?

I listen to rock-metal, but also classical and accoustic, mostly while traveling (train, bus).

What would you suggest?

 

Thanks!

post #11147 of 15304
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Originally Posted by FlySweep View Post

 

The dip at ~22K makes it a deal breaker for me.. such lazy tuning.

 

tongue_smile.gif


     thats not what you hear .

post #11148 of 15304
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Originally Posted by music_4321 View Post

Can one trust manufacturers' FR graphs?

 


     nope , its not totally reliable .

post #11149 of 15304
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Originally Posted by music_4321 View Post

Can one trust manufacturers' FR graphs?

 

Look at the scale. It suddenly drops off 30 dB from 7 kHz to 12 kHz.

post #11150 of 15304
Looks closer to 20dB from 7k. But it also looks really smoothed like Inks said so...
Sexy design though. That's worth a few dBs I think. biggrin.gif
Edited by vwinter - 8/8/13 at 6:31am
post #11151 of 15304
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Originally Posted by FlySweep View Post

 

The dip at ~22K makes it a deal breaker for me.. such lazy tuning.

 

tongue_smile.gif

 

I know!

 

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Originally Posted by suman134 View Post


     nope , its not totally reliable .

 

It was more of a rhetorical question.

 

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Originally Posted by higbvuyb View Post

Look at the scale. It suddenly drops off 30 dB from 7 kHz to 12 kHz.

 

It's actually 25dB not 30 — yes, a pretty steep dip, but I remain curious. If that graph turns out to be fairly close to the real thing, I wonder what these IEMs will sound like. At least good old grumpy sparrows already know that a FR graph does not always correlate to what they hear in the real world.


Edited by music_4321 - 8/8/13 at 7:36am
post #11152 of 15304
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post

Couple of new higher-end IEM releases from RHA. Hopefully more of the good stuff that made the entry-level MA-350 enjoyable.

 

ljokerl, did you get one yet?  If not, will you be getting one in soon?

 

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Originally Posted by tomscy2000 View Post

Looks nice --- the MA750 looks like the CK100PRO and the K3003 had a baby delivered by Reid Heath. I like the stainless steel tips tray too.

 

Schmexy!  smile.gif  Need someone to cover it for Cymba?  wink.gif

 

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Originally Posted by music_4321 View Post

Can one trust manufacturers' FR graphs?

 

 

Lol, I don't even remotely care about their graph right now... but to answer your question, nope.  smile.gif  I just want to hear the thing

 

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Originally Posted by FlySweep View Post

The dip at ~22K makes it a deal breaker for me.. such lazy tuning.

 

tongue_smile.gif

 

LOL!  biggrin.gif

 


 

Also, more info and pics here:  http://www.head-fi.org/t/675848/new-rha-iems-the-ma750i-and-ma600i

post #11153 of 15304
What's with the supersonic peak? That's probably around 25-30k :O
post #11154 of 15304
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by tomscy2000 View Post

Looks nice --- the MA750 looks like the CK100PRO and the K3003 had a baby delivered by Reid Heath. I like the stainless steel tips tray too.

 

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Originally Posted by james444 View Post

^ Ha, I'd rather say the K3003 had a bit on the side with a FAD 1601. wink.gif

 

No complaints here, I would have all of my favorite IEMs in stainless steel if I could. Especially my customs tongue.gif

 

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Originally Posted by FlySweep View Post

 

The dip at ~22K makes it a deal breaker for me.. such lazy tuning.

 

tongue_smile.gif

 

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Originally Posted by erde View Post

Hi,

 

it's time for a new iem and i have limit circa 130$. I read many of reviews and i'm choosing between sennheiser ie60 and hifiman re-400 but i can't find any comparison between them (maybe it's obvious). Or vsonic gr06 seems to be great considering it's price, but is it comparable with ie60 and re400?

I listen to rock-metal, but also classical and accoustic, mostly while traveling (train, bus).

What would you suggest?

 

Thanks!

 

I haven't heard the IE60 but I have the IE6 and it's not as good as the RE-400. Neither is the GR06. If you want a pretty flat/neutral sound with smooth treble, the RE-400 is the one to get in that price range.

 

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Originally Posted by warrenpchi View Post

 

ljokerl, did you get one yet?  If not, will you be getting one in soon?


All I got is a press release redface.gif. I'm a sucker for stainless steel, though, so I'll see if I can get one.

post #11155 of 15304
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Originally Posted by warrenpchi View Post

 

Lol, I don't even remotely care about their graph right now... but to answer your question, nope.  smile.gif  

 

Oh, rest assured I learned my lesson when FAD had claimed the Piano Fortes had a perfectly flat FR curve — when I saw that, I eagerly went ahead and ordered a pair of PF IXs, only to later realise the FR was ever so slightly skewed.

post #11156 of 15304
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Originally Posted by music_4321 View Post

Oh, rest assured I learned my lesson when FAD had claimed the Piano Fortes had a perfectly flat FR curve — when I saw that, I eagerly went ahead and ordered a pair of PF IXs, only to later realise the FR was ever so slightly skewed.

 

Just a tad off in spots eh?  biggrin.gif

post #11157 of 15304

That is a really weird, compressed FR graph.

 

Anyways, joker, I guess neither of the PNY headphones intrigued you as they're on the "not going to get a full review" list, but how are the cables?  They midtowns are cheap, I figured I might get them just to cannibalize the cable for another project.

post #11158 of 15304
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by jekostas View Post

That is a really weird, compressed FR graph.

 

Anyways, joker, I guess neither of the PNY headphones intrigued you as they're on the "not going to get a full review" list, but how are the cables?  They midtowns are cheap, I figured I might get them just to cannibalize the cable for another project.


Actually there are a whole bunch of earphones I haven't had a chance to categorize yet (thanks for the reminder!).

 

I have the PNY Midtowns and the Uptowns and they are both not bad. Nice deep bass that's reasonably tight, and good overall clarity. They sound like a lot of other cheaper earphones that are decent but generally lackluster - the Noontec Rio, for example. Good news is the PNYs are like $15 on Amazon and at that price I have no complaints.

post #11159 of 15304

Hey Joker, great thread you have here! I'm just getting into IEMs and need something portable to replace my full-sized cans. What would you recommend that's "fun" but still relatively neutral, with tight bass and easy highs? For reference I love my FA-003/HM5, although I wouldn't mind something a little more exciting either. The one thing I can't stand is harsh highs. I'm just going to be using these while walking around campus, so I couldn't care less about soundstage and detail retrieval, but isolation needs to be good. I'm really just interested in getting that sound signature and clarity. $150 is my budget but buying used is totally a possibility.

post #11160 of 15304

Hi Joker, hope you are doing good... Now what would be an ideal upgrade to MH1c and Quadbeat, i got both and although i think both are superbly good for the price, would GR07BE at discounted prices be worth the investment? Or RE400?

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