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post #12856 of 15257
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Originally Posted by Telltale View Post
 

Hi Joker,

 

Firstly a huge thank you for everything you do. The thread is my go to resource and always open whenever I'm looking at IEMs. Also you're dedication with replying to people here and giving your advice is phenomenal so props to you.

 

I've got some money going spare and I'm looking to get a new pair of earphones. I started with the GR06's which I adored. it may be that I conditioned myself to their sound signature but I loved the liquid smooth and forward mids they had and the overall balance. Unfortunately they were stolen and so I looked into getting a new pair of earphones: the VSD1S. They took a bit of getting used to compared to the GR06 but I've adjusted to them now.

 

Compared to the GR06 the VSD1S wins out on a few things: the detail and extra kick in the bass is awesome, increased detail in the mids and highs, the more airy soundstage. They're certainly a much better IEM for when I'm listening to EDM/rap/dance music. However I find the analytical  V-shaped sound signature quite fatiguing and I really miss the luscious forward mids of the GR06. Vocals come across as very recessed with the VSD which has turned out to be a pet peeve of mine. I would easily lose myself in the sound of the GR06 whereas the VSD1 often feels a bit distant. 

 

I've also had some usage with the JVC FXD60 which I found to be quite boring with very little kick to the bass, rolled off highs and a pretty boxed-in soundstage.

 

As such I'm looking for a new IEM. Something warm, mid-centric and forward that might be considered an upgrade to the GR06 and complement the VSD1. I'm looking for something <£80 hopefully. These are the ones I've considered from reading about:

 

Vsonic GR07 - Popular and originally what I was considering, however reading up it sounds like it's a bit closer to the VSD1 than the GR06 so the mids probably wouldn't be forward enough.

 

SE215 - Many people view these as mid-centric and forward while still being solid in the bass department. The build quality and over-ear designs are positives too.

 

MA750 - You recommend them as great warm sounding IEMs and the overall package is very appealing. I'd be a bit worried they're not quite the right sound signature I'm looking for, especially with the warm and forwardness of the mids.

 

RE-400 - Again very well recommended and popular but I'd concerned that the fairly balanced sound signature isn't what I'm looking for and might be a bit fatiguing.

 

Etymotic MC5/Ety Kids - Similar to above you describe them as overall very balanced but slightly mid-centric. They may not have the warm sound I'm looking for but the isolation and design are attractive features.

 

Vsonic GR06 - Ofcourse if there's nothing that seems like a viable upgrade I'll probably be perfectly happy getting the GR06s again. Much cheaper too.

 

Sorry for the lengthy post, any help would be greatly appreciated. 


  have you thought about eph-100 or image x10 ? they can be satisfying , and no one gets everything not even with orpheus 90 ( it used to cost a pair of kidney and a leg ) , you buy a nice phone closer to your likings and you make truce with its short comings .

post #12857 of 15257

Hey Joker, the AKG K323XS look interesting. You think you would have a chance to try these? :)

post #12858 of 15257
Someone was looking for earloops the other day:

http://m.ebay.com/itm?itemId=380468243568

Don't know about the quality but the seller is good, I've used him many times.
post #12859 of 15257
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post
 

I doubt you'll find a direct comparison of such different IEMs - people tend to compare like with like. The EPH-100 is way bassier than the RE-400, warmer, less emphasized in the mirdrange, and less smooth and refined up top, IMO.

 

 

 

So I had already ordered the RE-400 and thought I'd return them, because from what I've been reading I figured the EPH-100 might be a bit closer to what I'm looking for than the RE-400. Just thought I'd miss out on the low end. So I sent an e-mail to the store owner and the guy calls me back within an hour and basically urges me to actually give them a listen and that I shouldn't worry about the return policy, that if I still don't like them after giving them a proper listening session I could still return them. Good guy!! He also told me to burn them in for 24 hours and try it with the included Comply tips. That's what I call great service!

 

So I haven't burnt them in yet for 24 hours, but they've been playing music for most of the day and I decided to give them a try just now (actually listening to them right now). So far I have to say that they sound better than I expected. The sound is a bit clinical compared to my SE530, but otherwise the bass has much more presence than I was expecting. It probably misses that last bit of sub-bass that the SE530 can offer, but the mids and highs are quite clear. Not completely sure yet if I like their somewhat forward presentation (especially the mids), it's a little bit too much in my face so far. But I like all the detail it retrieves though. Otherwise, I can tell it's a tiny driver, the SE530 just sounds a bit 'bigger', but I guess that was to be expected given that actual physical size difference.

 

So will burn them in more overnight and tomorrow during the day and will give them another spin tomorrow night. But so far, better than I was expecting. The EPH-100 is also on the way, but I probably won't be able to return those once I've tried them (from a different store) so I'm just gonna have to guess how they sound based on reviews of both IEMs.

 

So far I've tried them with the big double-flange tips included, those are most comfortable and give me a good seal. Oh, and also I sometimes get the illusion that I'm not getting a good seal with the sound thinning out, but then I check and they're still sealed properly. Does this have to do with the wider soundstage compared to the SE530, which basically places all the instruments farther away from each other giving the impression of thinner/emptier sound?


Edited by starfly - 2/6/14 at 2:53pm
post #12860 of 15257

Hi Joker. A silly question, but out of the 309 iems do you find TDK EB900 as having the strongest bass? Also is koss spark plug (pathfinder) bassier?


Edited by 5fteleven - 2/7/14 at 3:40am
post #12861 of 15257
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Originally Posted by peter123 View Post

Someone was looking for earloops the other day:

http://m.ebay.com/itm?itemId=380468243568

Don't know about the quality but the seller is good, I've used him many times.

 

I'm that person, but the link you provided doesn't work, takes me to the homepage.

 

Cheers

post #12862 of 15257
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Originally Posted by reihead View Post
 

 

I'm that person, but the link you provided doesn't work, takes me to the homepage.

 

Cheers

Sorry about that, try this one instead :)

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/High-quality-Earloop-Earhook-for-Earphones-Earbuds-Shirt-Clip-/380468243568?pt=US_Replacement_Parts_Tools&hash=item5895acac70

post #12863 of 15257
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post
 

 

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I can't seem to find any on ebay. Weird.

 

If I were you I'd post a classified here on head-fi - plenty of IEMs come with cable guides and I'm sure lots of people have spares. 

 

You can also get the ThinkSound: http://store.thinksound.com/product/active-ear-hook or V-Moda: http://v-moda.com/sport-earhooks/ guides. I prefer the fit of the Thinksound ones for comfort but I don't have them anymore to try with the VSonic cable. The V-Moda ones are more conventional in design and should fit pretty much any cable without issue.

 

As for an upgrade, earphones I found to be in same vein as the GR07 BE would be the Alclair Reference (though its bass is GR07 and not GR07BE level), Phonak PFE 232, and Ultrasone IQ with impedance adapter. 

 

 

Thanks joker, 

What about regardless of the same SS? What would be an upgrade?

post #12864 of 15257

 

Thanks, another member already pointed me to those. Seems the only option so far

Cheers

post #12865 of 15257
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Originally Posted by reihead View Post
 

 

Thanks, another member already pointed me to those. Seems the only option so far

Cheers

:beerchug:

post #12866 of 15257
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Originally Posted by reihead View Post
 

 

Thanks, another member already pointed me to those. Seems the only option so far

Cheers

Well, these are most likely the genuine Vsonic ones. I have like 6 pairs of vsonic earguides and the bigbargainonline ones seem to be exactly these. You can always order from China but you'll pay like 10 bucks for one pair and honestly the vsonic earguides are pretty sub-par and not worth paying that much. I'm 99% sure the ebay ones are the actual vsonic ones.


Edited by kova4a - 2/7/14 at 6:49am
post #12867 of 15257

Joker, do you think i should buy the Fischer DBA-02? I'm looking for an upgrade from my FXT90, and am looking for a balanced sound, so would it be an upgrade? If not, what would you recommend as an upgrade (max $200-250) Thanks

post #12868 of 15257

Joker, which one is more speaker like out of these two, re-400 or the gr07 BE? I wan't to get an Iem for portable use when I'm away from my modded q701's.

post #12869 of 15257
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Originally Posted by johanchandy View Post
 

Joker, which one is more speaker like out of these two, re-400 or the gr07 BE? I wan't to get an Iem for portable use when I'm away from my modded q701's.

Tricky question...I think it's harder to compare IEMs to speakers than full sized open headphones.  As far as soundstage goes, the GR07s will have a wider, further back presentation, so that may be more in line with your Q701 (from memory).  I feel like depth/height is presented a bit better in the RE-400 though.  Comparatively, it seems more equal in each component of soundstage (more spherical to give a visual) vs the GR07 which has more width than depth/height.

post #12870 of 15257

For any of you guys wondering what the differences are between the Yamaha EPH-100 and HiFiMAN RE-400, check out this thread where @modulor posts his impressions of both (and also a bit of the Vsonic GR07) when he had all of them and was able to test them.

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/704091/hifiman-re-400-or-yamaha-eph-100

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