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Thank you a lot. I think there is a universal version of the Noble 4S that you rated so high in your reviews. At the Noble audio website I can see they have a Noble 4, that I assume is identical in SQ and signature to the Noble 4S or 4C. If this is the case it may be a very compelling option for a mid range/cost IEM with top level SQ and a neutral balanced presentation, as an improvement to the RE-400 and the Ety ER4P. It seems that the Noble 4 is $450 while the 4S is $999, there is so much difference that perhaps thera re more changes and it is just not the equal between universal and custom.

 

Does anyone know if the Noble 4 is the universal version of the Noble 4S and have the same SQ?

 

Both are described as identically at the Noble site

 

 

If they are the same I may just get the universal Noble 4 now ...

They have the exact same internals without any difference if you wonder whether the custom versions are more special inside. Of course, ciems are harder to make and customize so this raises the price, especially silicone ones like the 4S. Haven't heard the 4S but they shouldn't be too far apart aside from isolation and fit, which of course can affect the sound to some degree. Anyway, the universal version is pretty good and with the 15% Black Friday discount is a very good buy if one is looking for balanced and neutral sound. 

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Originally Posted by Ruben123 View Post

Hello Joker
I have a Q for you. User Hisoundfi recommended me the Soundmagic E30s and I think he's right, but since you know so many IEMs... Id like you opinion.
Looking for best details and a balanced sound for $20-40. I love my Monoprices, so Im looking for an upgrade which somehow sounds the same. I listen classical mostly and dont really bother about bass, micrrophonics and isolation. What do you say?

 

I am not sure the E30 is an upgrade from the Monoprice in performance so much as it is a slightly different take on a balanced sound. However, it does have a nicer form factor and you'll likely enjoy using it a whole lot more.

 

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Originally Posted by MrGuzmanWhite View Post
 

Thank you a lot. I think there is a universal version of the Noble 4S that you rated so high in your reviews. At the Noble audio website I can see they have a Noble 4, that I assume is identical in SQ and signature to the Noble 4S or 4C. If this is the case it may be a very compelling option for a mid range/cost IEM with top level SQ and a neutral balanced presentation, as an improvement to the RE-400 and the Ety ER4P. It seems that the Noble 4 is $450 while the 4S is $999, there is so much difference that perhaps thera re more changes and it is just not the equal between universal and custom.

 

Does anyone know if the Noble 4 is the universal version of the Noble 4S and have the same SQ?

 

Both are described as identically at the Noble site

 

 

If they are the same I may just get the universal Noble 4 now ...

 

I haven't tried the universal Noble 4 myself. I did try the 6 but it has a very different sound signature that won't work for you.

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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post
 

 

I am not sure the E30 is an upgrade from the Monoprice in performance so much as it is a slightly different take on a balanced sound. However, it does have a nicer form factor and you'll likely enjoy using it a whole lot more.

 

 

I haven't tried the universal Noble 4 myself. I did try the 6 but it has a very different sound signature that won't work for you.


Thanks a lot. I know the Monoprices have bass in quantity but not in quality, and the treble's not the best. Do the Soundmagics fix those parts and with more detail? Do you have other recommendations in that price catagory? Predecessor PL30 maybe at $10 lower for example?

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Actually looking to buy a DAC+ an IEM + a over ear. ljokerl already suggested to get M50X so will try to see a price drop this BF and buy one.

 

Regarding my audio preference, I add up a bit of bass to my piston v2.1 and its close to what I like to hear. Loved UE6000 in cancelling mode(without any bass boost) and it suited me perfectly though was very much uncomfortable & had to return it.


For IEM looking between GR 07 classic and GR07 Bass Edition, though inclined on buying BE


Looking up on FiiO E7K as a DAC primarily to boost bass with desktop as a source. So, E7K+ M50X and GR07 BE would be good enough for me? Or should I take FiiO E11? Thanks!


Edited by hitme987 - Yesterday at 6:57 am
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Hi Joker! Can you suggest a new IEM for me? I picked up a pair of Velodyne V-Pulse last year and loved the sound but hated their build quality. I listen to a lot of Suicide Commando, KMFDM and Nine Inch Nails and really enjoyed the bass in the V-Pulse. I have several other headphone and IEMs a set of Astro A50's which sound great for heavy music, a pair of Yamaha 500 which are all around just amazing and a couple more cans and IEMs. None of those have that unique sound the Velodynes had for Industrial music and I would like to find a better pair of IEMs that do and I also wouldnt mind a suggestion for some Over-Ears that sound like that. Thanks for the help!

Edit: I would like to stick in the sub-$200 price range unless there is something in tje $300-$350 price range that you think would blow my mind!
Edited by DPCyric - Yesterday at 7:18 pm
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Originally Posted by Ruben123 View Post
 


Thanks a lot. I know the Monoprices have bass in quantity but not in quality, and the treble's not the best. Do the Soundmagics fix those parts and with more detail? Do you have other recommendations in that price catagory? Predecessor PL30 maybe at $10 lower for example?

 

They just lack extension - the E30 improves on that and has smoother treble. But if you're used to the more mid-focused sound of the Monoprice now, you might find that lacking with the Soundmagics. For the price and with balanced sound they're still one of the better options, though.

 

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Actually looking to buy a DAC+ an IEM + a over ear. ljokerl already suggested to get M50X so will try to see a price drop this BF and buy one.

 

Regarding my audio preference, I add up a bit of bass to my piston v2.1 and its close to what I like to hear. Loved UE6000 in cancelling mode(without any bass boost) and it suited me perfectly though was very much uncomfortable & had to return it.


For IEM looking between GR 07 classic and GR07 Bass Edition, though inclined on buying BE


Looking up on FiiO E7K as a DAC primarily to boost bass with desktop as a source. So, E7K+ M50X and GR07 BE would be good enough for me? Or should I take FiiO E11? Thanks!

 

Even the GR07 BE is not as bassy as a Piston, especially a Piston with added bass. It's a great earphone, just that "bass edition" is a bit of a misnomer except when compared to the regular GR07. However, it sounds like you're moving in a more neutral direction with your setup so maybe it is the right choice. Plus, not sure about the E11, but the E7 has some bass boost functionality.

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Originally Posted by DPCyric View Post

Hi Joker! Can you suggest a new IEM for me? I picked up a pair of Velodyne V-Pulse last year and loved the sound but hated their build quality. I listen to a lot of Suicide Commando, KMFDM and Nine Inch Nails and really enjoyed the bass in the V-Pulse. I have several other headphone and IEMs a set of Astro A50's which sound great for heavy music, a pair of Yamaha 500 which are all around just amazing and a couple more cans and IEMs. None of those have that unique sound the Velodynes had for Industrial music and I would like to find a better pair of IEMs that do and I also wouldnt mind a suggestion for some Over-Ears that sound like that. Thanks for the help!

Edit: I would like to stick in the sub-$200 price range unless there is something in tje $300-$350 price range that you think would blow my mind!

 

HiSoundAudio Wooduo 2 would be a good one. It's "only" $100-ish but has what is probably the most deep bass among all the IEMs I've tried. Build quality is not amazing by any means but there's nothing that sounds quite like it if you like sub-bass-oriented sound signatures like that of the vPulse. 

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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post

 

 

Even the GR07 BE is not as bassy as a Piston, especially a Piston with added bass. It's a great earphone, just that "bass edition" is a bit of a misnomer except when compared to the regular GR07. However, it sounds like you're moving in a more neutral direction with your setup so maybe it is the right choice. Plus, not sure about the E11, but the E7 has some bass boost functionality.

Thanks. Now, stuck on GR07 classic or GR07 BE, is it worth spending 30$ more for BE? From what I've read, Classic is 98% close to GR07 signature & your review says +1/+2 boost on lows for BE . GR07 classic is @ 77$, GR07 BE is @ 107$ now at BF Lendmeurears store


Bought FiiO E17 just now @ 87$, looking to pair with it, which one of those would be ideal for me? I think E17 got a good bass boost setting. Thanks!


Edited by hitme987 - Yesterday at 8:20 pm
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post

HiSoundAudio Wooduo 2 would be a good one. It's "only" $100-ish but has what is probably the most deep bass among all the IEMs I've tried. Build quality is not amazing by any means but there's nothing that sounds quite like it if you like sub-bass-oriented sound signatures like that of the vPulse. 

Thanks! I was had hoped to find something a bit higher priced and sturdier but I will check these out. I love the sub-bass oriented sound signature for my industrial music and working out so I guess I shouldnt spend too much on IEM's just for those purposes since my Yamaha's and A50's cover my other sound needs well. I might pick up a pair of Yamaha EPH-100SL's as well they look nice smily_headphones1.gif
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Originally Posted by hitme987 View Post
 

Thanks. Now, stuck on GR07 classic or GR07 BE, is it worth spending 30$ more for BE? From what I've read, Classic is 98% close to GR07 signature & your review says +1/+2 boost on lows for BE . GR07 classic is @ 77$, GR07 BE is @ 107$ now at BF Lendmeurears store


Bought FiiO E17 just now @ 87$, looking to pair with it, which one of those would be ideal for me? I think E17 got a good bass boost setting. Thanks!

 

I would go for the BE - it's a small different between them but I'm quite sure you'll like the BE better between the two.

 

Never tried the E17 - my experience with the Fiio line "tops out" with the E7.

 

 

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Thanks! I was had hoped to find something a bit higher priced and sturdier but I will check these out. I love the sub-bass oriented sound signature for my industrial music and working out so I guess I shouldnt spend too much on IEM's just for those purposes since my Yamaha's and A50's cover my other sound needs well. I might pick up a pair of Yamaha EPH-100SL's as well they look nice smily_headphones1.gif

 

The EPH-100 would be my second choice but the Wooduo has a leaner, more crisp sound that I think is a better match for the vPulse. If you can get both, by all means do! EPH-100 is fantastic for genres like hip-hop, EDM, top40, etc, but for rock & metal I'd rather use the HiSound.

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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post
 

I haven't tried the universal Noble 4 myself. I did try the 6 but it has a very different sound signature that won't work for you.

Thank you ljokerl. I asked the team at Noble about the IEM Noble 4 to confirm is it is the same as the Noble 4s/c and they confirmed it is the universal version. Based on your enthusiastic review of the Noble 4s, and your comparisons with the HE-400 and Ety ER4P, two headphones I have and enjoy a lot, I went and ordered a Noble 4 universal. I hope this is the next step up for me. I will report back once I get the Noble 4 and can compare with the HE-400 and Ety ER4P.

 

Thank you again for your kind assistance during the section process!:beerchug: 

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