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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post
 

 

Those are all pretty different-sounding. I would say that for bass you'll want at a GR07 Bass Edition over a regular one. The BA200 and R-50 have less bass than these. The R-50 especially is not a good buy if you want an upgrade in bass quantity from the RE0.

 

The MA750 has a lot more bass than the other sets you're considering, it's a borderline basshead earphone. Good in that context, but very different from an RE0.

 

 

The MA750 is bassier and warmer, with less forward mids and a bit more lower treble. The R3 is more balanced overall, with less bass enhancement, more forward mids, and smoother treble.

 

 

GR07 Bass Edition can be had for ₪453.86 () or so nowadays. It has slightly more bass than even the Fidelio S2. The midrange is better on the BA200 IMO but I think the GR07 BE is a worthy compromise if you thought the B2/VC1000 didn't have any bass. The RE-400 is most likely not a good buy for what you want. 

Hi ljokerl.

Thanks so much for the reply, and for this amazing thread.

 

- Can you comment regarding "sony-ish" sound with comparison to the main candidates above?

- Should t-peos altone2000 should be considered in this category?


Edited by ziflingus - 8/19/14 at 6:47am
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sorry double post


Edited by dezane222 - 8/19/14 at 10:11pm
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Originally Posted by suman134 View Post
 

 

 ba200 can fit the bill , not the re-400 , its has a small bass increment over b2 .

thanks for reply

i think i already like ba200 more than re400 :)

 

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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post
 

 

Those are all pretty different-sounding. I would say that for bass you'll want at a GR07 Bass Edition over a regular one. The BA200 and R-50 have less bass than these. The R-50 especially is not a good buy if you want an upgrade in bass quantity from the RE0.

 

The MA750 has a lot more bass than the other sets you're considering, it's a borderline basshead earphone. Good in that context, but very different from an RE0.

 

 

The MA750 is bassier and warmer, with less forward mids and a bit more lower treble. The R3 is more balanced overall, with less bass enhancement, more forward mids, and smoother treble.

 

 

GR07 Bass Edition can be had for $130 or so nowadays. It has slightly more bass than even the Fidelio S2. The midrange is better on the BA200 IMO but I think the GR07 BE is a worthy compromise if you thought the B2/VC1000 didn't have any bass. The RE-400 is most likely not a good buy for what you want. 

thanks for the reply joker.

i had gr07 classic. it very good sounding, the bass quality is great, and quantity is more than enough for me. but sold it because the mid/vocal not forward and lush enough for my taste.

i dont mind trade a little decrease bass quantity of gr07 for increase quality&lush mid of ba200 :)

do you think i will get more quality and lush mid from ba200 compared to gr07?


Edited by dezane222 - 8/19/14 at 4:08am
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Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by ziflingus View Post
 

Hi ljokerl.

Thanks so much for the reply, and for this amazing thread.

 

- Can you comment regarding "sony-ish" sound with comparison to the main candidates above?

- Should t-peos altone2000 should be considered in this category?

 

I don't know what you mean by Sony-ish sound - Sony has a lot of headphones spanning different sound signatures. The Altone200 would be too much of a change from the RE0 IMO - just too v-shaped and bright. It's got a big sound, just not sure it's the signature you are looking for. 

 

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Originally Posted by dezane222 View Post
 

thanks for the reply joker.

i had gr07 classic. it very good sounding, the bass quality is great, and quantity is more than enough for me. but sold it because the mid/vocal not forward and lush enough for my taste.

i dont mind trade a little decrease bass quantity of gr07 for increase quality&lush mid of ba200 :)

do you think i will get more quality and lush mid from ba200 compared to gr07?

 

Compared to the GR07 and Fidelio S2 the BA200 does focus on more on the mids. About the same as the RE-400, but the bass is a little deeper on the TDKs. 

post #14345 of 15047
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post

Compared to the GR07 and Fidelio S2 the BA200 does focus on more on the mids. About the same as the RE-400, but the bass is a little deeper on the TDKs. 

so it is ba200 i will buy :)

thanks joker

post #14346 of 15047
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Originally Posted by dezane222 View Post
 

so it is ba200 i will buy :)

thanks joker


 told you .

post #14347 of 15047

how would the final audio design Heaven II and carbo zero Tenore compare to jvc fxt90? 

Past sets owned include vsonic GR07 and ba200. 

 

I prefer wide soundstage (gr07), clear and good mids (ba200, although a little too forward sounding for me while gr07 was too dry) and a sound that comes together musically (less analytical?). 

Im not particular about bass so amount equivalent to the 2 sets are alright. Branwavz B2 and Rockit R-50 bass level are too little (owned and sold off).  

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Eventually, after too much time spent on reading headphone reviews, I decided to intuitively order a pair of ath-im70 (I have great faith in audio technica)

Will report back when they get to me

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Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by queerquirks View Post
 

how would the final audio design Heaven II and carbo zero Tenore compare to jvc fxt90? 

Past sets owned include vsonic GR07 and ba200. 

 

I prefer wide soundstage (gr07), clear and good mids (ba200, although a little too forward sounding for me while gr07 was too dry) and a sound that comes together musically (less analytical?). 

Im not particular about bass so amount equivalent to the 2 sets are alright. Branwavz B2 and Rockit R-50 bass level are too little (owned and sold off).  

 

The Heaven II is a lot flatter/more accurate/more analytical than the FXT90. It doesn't have the bass quantity of a GR07 and generally reminds me more of the B2 or R-50 than a GR07 or BA200. 

 

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Originally Posted by ziflingus View Post
 

Eventually, after too much time spent on reading headphone reviews, I decided to intuitively order a pair of ath-im70 (I have great faith in audio technica)

Will report back when they get to me

 

Enjoy! 

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Hey Joker!

 

I've been pretty content with my DT770 and FRD80s, but I went on the Golden Ears site again and found that I actually quite liked the darker sounding sound clips (using my DT770). I know it's a little late to be realising this now, but to be honest I'm fine with the sound on the 770 (EQing helps a bit), its just vocals on the FRD80 sometimes sound a little unnatural. 

 

When I first got my JVC XX and AM800 I was listening to a lot of crap, but since then I've started listening to a lot more house (deamau5, daft punk etc). For this, both my current headphones are good, but my problems are that I also listen to a lot of indie pop/alternative (passenger, chet faker, imagine dragons etc) 

 

I've tried simply boosting the mid-bass on the FRDs to try and put some more emphasis on the vocals but it didn't really work out too well either :/

 

Just wondering what my options would be if I were to consider upgrading (yet again :D) to something more warm than the FRD80s, but still less than £50 if possible, and maybe with a mic if that's possible too?

 

If it helps, I went back to the AM800s and I could definitely hear the difference in the mids, and really liked that. Actually that probably makes everything harder :/

 

Thanks for the help though!

 

edit: also, you mentioned this before, but I couldn't find it. Any help?

 

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 There's an app that lets you use reference headphones and pre-set EQ settings to "try out" different other sound signatures. I believe it's curated by GoldenEars and you can find it on their site.
post #14351 of 15047
Here's a write up in Accudio, by GoldenEars.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/644688/the-accudio-app-by-golden-ears-a-headphone-revolution

You can get it on the iPhone App Store,

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Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by AgentJ View Post
 

Hey Joker!

 

I've been pretty content with my DT770 and FRD80s, but I went on the Golden Ears site again and found that I actually quite liked the darker sounding sound clips (using my DT770). I know it's a little late to be realising this now, but to be honest I'm fine with the sound on the 770 (EQing helps a bit), its just vocals on the FRD80 sometimes sound a little unnatural. 

 

When I first got my JVC XX and AM800 I was listening to a lot of crap, but since then I've started listening to a lot more house (deamau5, daft punk etc). For this, both my current headphones are good, but my problems are that I also listen to a lot of indie pop/alternative (passenger, chet faker, imagine dragons etc) 

 

I've tried simply boosting the mid-bass on the FRDs to try and put some more emphasis on the vocals but it didn't really work out too well either :/

 

Just wondering what my options would be if I were to consider upgrading (yet again :D) to something more warm than the FRD80s, but still less than £50 if possible, and maybe with a mic if that's possible too?

 

If it helps, I went back to the AM800s and I could definitely hear the difference in the mids, and really liked that. Actually that probably makes everything harder :/

 

Thanks for the help though!

 

edit: also, you mentioned this before, but I couldn't find it. Any help?

 

 

I think the Sony MH1C is your best bet for warmer sound that's natural. It may not be as clear as the FRDs but it's got the right tonal character.

 

And yes, Accudio is the app I was thinking of.

post #14353 of 15047
Two questions for you Joker, have you've listened to ATH-IM60, and if you did what's a good upgrade?

I love this IEM but, I'm just ready to upgrade and hear better if there's a good option out there with similar mids and more impactful bass.
Edited by SyCo87 - 8/21/14 at 1:22am
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Originally Posted by SyCo87 View Post

Two questions for you Joker, have you've listened to ATH-IM60, and if you did what's a good upgrade?

I love this IEM but, I'm just ready to upgrade and hear better if there's a good option out there with similar mids and more impactful bass.

 

  is there a ath-im60 ? sorry if i have been in caves for few months .

post #14355 of 15047
I don't know if there's a price difference between here and over there, but the MH1C are really cheap at £12 (JVC were £30). Is that just a nice surprise or is there anything recommended slightly above that price?

I know more money doesn't always equal better sound, but I thought it was worth asking.

edit:

I've had a look at the Accudio app, and it does look pretty good. Does anyone know of anything like that from Windows or Android?
Edited by AgentJ - 8/21/14 at 5:19am
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