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post #13516 of 14832

:beyersmile:Hi! joker!

I have $1000 now and I want to buy a custom IEM for some Jpop like Asriel.

So could you please give me some recommendation?

Thanks a lot!

   
   
post #13517 of 14832
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Originally Posted by Agharta View Post

Hello Joker.

Can you clarify what portable music player(s) you use for reviewing IEMS?

In the opening thread post you say

On-the-go listening is done using a Cowon J3 and HiFiMan HM-901 portable players. A wide range of tracks in FLAC and mp3 file formats is used. Critical listening is done via an optical-fed iBasso D10 and the HiFiMan HM-901 using only WMA and Flac lossless files.

Is that still the case?

One might argue that neither of those devices are really very commonly used and certainly the J3 is not really on a par anymore with current devices.

On top of that, what settings do you use on these devices and what volume do you play music at?

I ask this really because I personally use a Samsung S3 rooted with Boeffla Kernel and Viper 4 android DSP app.

In this scenario, how can I know how these IEMs you are reviewing will sound from my phone?

No offence meant at all, but perhaps this thread might be a bit like the equivalent of watching cookery programmes when you don't own an oven.

Well if you're using the Viper-DDC function in the latest Viper4Android version, results will depend a lot on how good the DDC profile is for your particular earphones... What are you using now?
post #13518 of 14832

Hey ljokerl, 

 

I'm interested in the Noble 4S but maybe thinking about getting the Noble 4 for quick insertion, extraction, etc. at work. I think that the RE-400 and VC1000 can co-exist and between them cover lots of ground as an incredible budget duo...pretty much any music I'd personally listen too. (When I want something bassy, the RE-400 is good enough for me.) But if the 4S is the logical upgrade to the VC1000 (though I'd actually be looking at the 4), what do you think of as the universal upgrade to the RE-400? Maybe the SE535? I guess I'm wondering if I were looking at two universal upgrades, an upgrade to both RE-400 and VC1000, what would they be... Any thoughts, ramblings, etc. would be appreciated. 

 

Thanks! 

post #13519 of 14832
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Originally Posted by Agharta View Post

Hello Joker.

Can you clarify what portable music player(s) you use for reviewing IEMS?

In the opening thread post you say

On-the-go listening is done using a Cowon J3 and HiFiMan HM-901 portable players. A wide range of tracks in FLAC and mp3 file formats is used. Critical listening is done via an optical-fed iBasso D10 and the HiFiMan HM-901 using only WMA and Flac lossless files.

Is that still the case?

One might argue that neither of those devices are really very commonly used and certainly the J3 is not really on a par anymore with current devices.

On top of that, what settings do you use on these devices and what volume do you play music at?

I ask this really because I personally use a Samsung S3 rooted with Boeffla Kernel and Viper 4 android DSP app.

In this scenario, how can I know how these IEMs you are reviewing will sound from my phone?

No offence meant at all, but perhaps this thread might be a bit like the equivalent of watching cookery programmes when you don't own an oven.

 

Very good question. Let me share the  thought of Mr. Ivor Tiefenbrun (Linn Products Ltd) about the "front end": ".... Tiefenbrun also battled the thinking, since Edgar Villchur, that the loudspeakers were the most important, instead asserting primacy of "the front end", saying that the quality of sound of the source was key. ... " (Wikipedia) - and hundreds of articles from the past till today. Ok, not loudspeakers but IEMs (little loudspeakers....! ) . Welcome to the forum  Agharta


Edited by garcsa - 5/3/14 at 11:59am
post #13520 of 14832
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Originally Posted by imackler View Post

Hey ljokerl, 

I'm interested in the Noble 4S but maybe thinking about getting the Noble 4 for quick insertion, extraction, etc. at work. I think that the RE-400 and VC1000 can co-exist and between them cover lots of ground as an incredible budget duo...pretty much any music I'd personally listen too. (When I want something bassy, the RE-400 is good enough for me.) But if the 4S is the logical upgrade to the VC1000 (though I'd actually be looking at the 4), what do you think of as the universal upgrade to the RE-400? Maybe the SE535? I guess I'm wondering if I were looking at two universal upgrades, an upgrade to both RE-400 and VC1000, what would they be... Any thoughts, ramblings, etc. would be appreciated. 

Thanks! 
If you want an VC1000 with more bass, go for the DN1000 smily_headphones1.gif

I got the universal Noble 4 a while ago and find it lacking low end personally.
post #13521 of 14832
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jcyxxx View Post
 

:beyersmile:Hi! joker!

I have $1000 now and I want to buy a custom IEM for some Jpop like Asriel.

So could you please give me some recommendation?

Thanks a lot!

 

To be honest I've never listened to any Jpop in my life. Do you know what sort of sound signature you're looking for?

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by imackler View Post
 

Hey ljokerl, 

 

I'm interested in the Noble 4S but maybe thinking about getting the Noble 4 for quick insertion, extraction, etc. at work. I think that the RE-400 and VC1000 can co-exist and between them cover lots of ground as an incredible budget duo...pretty much any music I'd personally listen too. (When I want something bassy, the RE-400 is good enough for me.) But if the 4S is the logical upgrade to the VC1000 (though I'd actually be looking at the 4), what do you think of as the universal upgrade to the RE-400? Maybe the SE535? I guess I'm wondering if I were looking at two universal upgrades, an upgrade to both RE-400 and VC1000, what would they be... Any thoughts, ramblings, etc. would be appreciated. 

 

Thanks! 

 

I would consider the 4S an upgrade to both the RE-400 and VC1000, though its signature is probably closer to the HiFiMan with the smoother splash-free treble and not particularly lean note presentation. That said, I'm not sure how the universal version compares but I would not be surprised if the greater contact area of the 4S gives it a more impactful low end compared to the universal version. I certainly don't think the custom lags behind the RE-400 in bass impact.

 

If we discard the 4S and stick only to universals, I would maybe consider the StageDiver SD-2 as an RE-400 upgrade though I personally can't say it's worth the extra scratch over the HiFiMan. It mostly improves over the RE-400 in bass depth and soundstage size. The Dunu DN2000 seems promising as well so far but I need to spend more time with it, which is definitely on my to-do list.

post #13522 of 14832
hmmm
post #13523 of 14832
Quote:
Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post
 

If we discard the 4S and stick only to universals, I would maybe consider the StageDiver SD-2 as an RE-400 upgrade though I personally can't say it's worth the extra scratch over the HiFiMan. It mostly improves over the RE-400 in bass depth and soundstage size. The Dunu DN2000 seems promising as well so far but I need to spend more time with it, which is definitely on my to-do list.

 

INteresting. Been waiting for a true all-round upgrade to the RE400 in terms of SQ and Value. Especially value, considering we usually end up in higher-than-expected $$$ territory for a 100$IEM upgrade.

Wonder what your comparison list will be. RE400, SD2, DN1000, RE600, GR07MKII, Music One, SM64, MDR-7550..... It's all wrong isn't it? :rolleyes:

 

Side-note: Why aren't any of the T-peos flagships making their way to you? Or the JVCs. Or the XBAs. 

Side-note2: When is the UE-TF1 ...... ah, never mind :popcorn: 

 

Threads like this make Head-fi the epic forum it is. You've earned a over thousand karmic-beers mate. Cheers :beerchug:

post #13524 of 14832
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Originally Posted by Joe Bloggs View Post

Well if you're using the Viper-DDC function in the latest Viper4Android version, results will depend a lot on how good the DDC profile is for your particular earphones... What are you using now?

I use the Dolby Pro Logic irs in Convolver in Viper - makes my Brainwavz R3 iems really sing.

There's sadly no DDC for the Brainwavz yet - any idea how I can request one?

On the subject of DAPs, I have to say I used to have the Cowon J3 and while it's a nice little device, my S3 poos all over it in sound quality.

I used to laugh at those using smartphones and EQ. What a fool I was.
post #13525 of 14832
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by getclikinagas View Post
 

INteresting. Been waiting for a true all-round upgrade to the RE400 in terms of SQ and Value. Especially value, considering we usually end up in higher-than-expected $$$ territory for a 100$IEM upgrade.

Wonder what your comparison list will be. RE400, SD2, DN1000, RE600, GR07MKII, Music One, SM64, MDR-7550..... It's all wrong isn't it? :rolleyes:

 

Side-note: Why aren't any of the T-peos flagships making their way to you? Or the JVCs. Or the XBAs. 

Side-note2: When is the UE-TF1 ...... ah, never mind :popcorn: 

 

Threads like this make Head-fi the epic forum it is. You've earned a over thousand karmic-beers mate. Cheers :beerchug:

 

Honestly, it's hard to expect anything priced 3x higher to beat the RE-400 in value. I know for sure I'll use the RE-400 and GR07 in DN2000 comparisons as those two live on my desk. Everything else is TBD but your list makes sense. Aside from standard benchmarks I usually try to pick sets with a somewhat similar signature priced both higher and lower, as well as similarly-priced sets that are not a signature match but otherwise comparable. 

 

With unlimited time I could probably get my hands on most of the IEMs out there. As it stands, the queue is full enough. Perhaps I spend some time on sets that don't need to be reviewed but I've also starting setting aside unremarkable earphones without review. Not sure if that's a great move in the long run but it allows me to cover more of what I actually want to cover. 

post #13526 of 14832
Joker, I see you've reviewed the Earsonics SM3 v1. Have you heard the v2?.. . If you have, is there any notable difference between the two? Thanks.
post #13527 of 14832
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by amzies01 View Post

Joker, I see you've reviewed the Earsonics SM3 v1. Have you heard the v2?.. . If you have, is there any notable difference between the two? Thanks.

 

Nope, never got to try the v2. At the time when it came out, it was reported to be pretty similar to the v1 minus the less crappy housing.

post #13528 of 14832

Does the RE-400 ever go on sale? I must pick-up a pair at some point. They sound like a great reference set to include with my GR07 and BA200.

post #13529 of 14832
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jarrett View Post
 

Does the RE-400 ever go on sale? I must pick-up a pair at some point. They sound like a great reference set to include with my GR07 and BA200.

 

I've only seen HiFiMan gear go on sale towards end-of-life so I wouldn't count on it. Best bet might be a used one here on the forums.

post #13530 of 14832
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Originally Posted by jarrett View Post
 

Does the RE-400 ever go on sale? I must pick-up a pair at some point. They sound like a great reference set to include with my GR07 and BA200.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/716228/hifiman-re400b-iems-balanced-model-or-non-balanced-mode

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