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post #9151 of 14624

my preference music is r&b/pop/acoustic/rap. not really sure though because i just listen to any music that i liked no matter what genre is.

 

i would like to try that yamaha eph-100 buy i'm having a hard time finding an audio shop locally to buy or test one.

 

BTW thanks really for the fast reply

 
post #9152 of 14624
oh ok. ill try to look those iem's at our local store. i hope i can find some. :)
post #9153 of 14624

Hi Joker,

 

I need some help with this please:

 

I've had the PL30, Brainwavz M1, KSC-75, Creative Aurvana Live and Brainwavz R1.

 

Now here's what I feel about them:

 

PL30: Extremely smooth sounding, really liked the sound of these, but slightly lacking in bass.

 

M1: Not as smooth as the PL30, but perfect amount of bass. VERY good sounding vocals and saxophone, just the way I'd want them.

 

KSC-75: Treble seemed too high.. very tiring

 

Creative aurvana live: Close to the same as M1 except maybe slightly BETTER bass. The vocals might be slightly better on the M1?

 

Brainwavz R1: Don't like these. They're good with electronic music, but I don't like them at all for anything else. The vocals seem to be coming from another room. Very distant and what not. Not pleasing at all.

 

 

Now I don't really know HOW to describe the sound signature I like. I've been trying to read up a lot, but I don't know how to describe my preferences. Can you tell me what it exactly is so I look for it when I read reviews? 


Secondly, considering all the above, what earphones would you recommend under the $60 mark?

 

Thanks a lot for all the work that you put in. My PL30, M1 and CAL and KSC-75 have all been purchased based on your specific recommendations and I'm happy with them.

 

Edit: Just to inform you, I've lost both the PL30 and the M1 when I was moving. I was thinking of just getting the M1 again, but then I thought maybe I have some other options. Looking at all the hype about the Sony MH1C maybe I could get those or maybe you can recommend something.

 

Thanks!


Edited by Jozurr - 12/26/12 at 10:51pm
post #9154 of 14624
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Jozurr View Post

Hi Joker,

 

I need some help with this please:

 

I've had the PL30, Brainwavz M1, KSC-75, Creative Aurvana Live and Brainwavz R1.

 

Now here's what I feel about them:

 

PL30: Extremely smooth sounding, really liked the sound of these, but slightly lacking in bass.

 

M1: Not as smooth as the PL30, but perfect amount of bass. VERY good sounding vocals and saxophone, just the way I'd want them.

 

KSC-75: Treble seemed too high.. very tiring

 

Creative aurvana live: Close to the same as M1 except maybe slightly BETTER bass. The vocals might be slightly better on the M1?

 

Brainwavz R1: Don't like these. They're good with electronic music, but I don't like them at all for anything else. The vocals seem to be coming from another room. Very distant and what not. Not pleasing at all.

 

 

Now I don't really know HOW to describe the sound signature I like. I've been trying to read up a lot, but I don't know how to describe my preferences. Can you tell me what it exactly is so I look for it when I read reviews? 


Secondly, considering all the above, what earphones would you recommend under the $60 mark?

 

Thanks a lot for all the work that you put in. My PL30, M1 and CAL and KSC-75 have all been purchased based on your specific recommendations and I'm happy with them.

 

Edit: Just to inform you, I've lost both the PL30 and the M1 when I was moving. I was thinking of just getting the M1 again, but then I thought maybe I have some other options. Looking at all the hype about the Sony MH1C maybe I could get those or maybe you can recommend something.

 

Thanks!

 

I guess it depends on what, if anything, you'd like to see improved over the M1. The M1 is a re-tuned ViSang model characterized by higher impedance compared to its ViSang equivalents. Well, ViSang has actually released their own 32-ohm earphone now, the VS-K1: http://www.ebay.com/itm/VISANG-VS-K1-Inner-Ear-Silver-Cord-HiFi-Stereo-Audio-Earphones-/380487914079 . It sounds quite good, like an M1 slightly re-tuned in favor of the bass and lower midrange. It's a little thicker-sounding and warmer but it also has slightly better bass depth and a more spacious presentation. If you don't want a warmer-sounding and smoother earphone, you're probably better off just getting another M1 while it's still in production. 

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I guess it depends on what, if anything, you'd like to see improved over the M1. The M1 is a re-tuned ViSang model characterized by higher impedance compared to its ViSang equivalents. Well, ViSang has actually released their own 32-ohm earphone now, the VS-K1: http://www.ebay.com/itm/VISANG-VS-K1-Inner-Ear-Silver-Cord-HiFi-Stereo-Audio-Earphones-/380487914079 . It sounds quite good, like an M1 slightly re-tuned in favor of the bass and lower midrange. It's a little thicker-sounding and warmer but it also has slightly better bass depth and a more spacious presentation. If you don't want a warmer-sounding and smoother earphone, you're probably better off just getting another M1 while it's still in production. 

Like I said, I can't really explain what sound signature I like. From what I've defined, is it mid forward? I do like some bass as well, so what should I be looking for in a sound signature if I want a mix of M1, PL30 and the CAL?

 

What I'd like in the M1 is the smoothness. It felt slightly "dry" (if that word is correct). What would be a general upgrade over the M1? I read that the M4s are kind of v/u shaped. How do the M5s fit in this picture? Do you think I should go for the MH1C instead since it costs roughly the same? would it be a logical upgrade over the M1?

post #9156 of 14624

Thanks ljokerl for answering my questions and the recommendations.  Hope you have a happy new year!
 

post #9157 of 14624

Hello,

 

I am after some help and advice on picking some in ear headphones/in ear monitors.

 

The main use will be with portable devices whilst travelling, and my budget is around £20-30 (yes I'm English)!!

 

I like all kinds of music genre from Hip Hop, Rock, Pop, Jazz and Folk, so an all rounder would be ideal.  Comfort and sound quality are my priorities.

 

I have a gift voucher to use at a high street store, and the following brands are available (Fischer Audio, VIBE, Sennheiser, Monster, AKG, Eers, Philips, Skullcandy, Bose, Beats, Bowers & Wilkins, Harmon Kardon, WeSc, Yamaha)

 

Thank you

post #9158 of 14624
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Originally Posted by Jozurr View Post

Like I said, I can't really explain what sound signature I like. From what I've defined, is it mid forward? I do like some bass as well, so what should I be looking for in a sound signature if I want a mix of M1, PL30 and the CAL?

 

What I'd like in the M1 is the smoothness. It felt slightly "dry" (if that word is correct). What would be a general upgrade over the M1? I read that the M4s are kind of v/u shaped. How do the M5s fit in this picture? Do you think I should go for the MH1C instead since it costs roughly the same? would it be a logical upgrade over the M1?

If you could deal with the j cord cable. Some people say a flat cable is bad for wearing over the ear but I don't wear iems over the ear so I wouldn't know. If all that doesn't matter to you than definitely get it. normal_smile%20.gif

post #9159 of 14624

Hi I'm here again. :)

 

after looking for a yamaha eph-100 and jvc ha-fxt90 locally here in PH it appears its not available here.

 

Can you direct me to a trusted online store where i can buy a yamaha eph-100 or jvc ha-fxt90.

 

Many Thanks again!

Cheers!

post #9160 of 14624
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jozurr View Post

Like I said, I can't really explain what sound signature I like. From what I've defined, is it mid forward? I do like some bass as well, so what should I be looking for in a sound signature if I want a mix of M1, PL30 and the CAL?

 

What I'd like in the M1 is the smoothness. It felt slightly "dry" (if that word is correct). What would be a general upgrade over the M1? I read that the M4s are kind of v/u shaped. How do the M5s fit in this picture? Do you think I should go for the MH1C instead since it costs roughly the same? would it be a logical upgrade over the M1?

 

I've never heard an MH1C or Brainwavz M4. I would not recommend the M5 for you - it would be much too bassy if you are happy with the M1's bass.  I really think you might like the ViSang VS-K1 but I don't know if there are any other reviews of it out there, or how it compares to the MH1C.

 

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Originally Posted by hh3808 View Post

Thanks ljokerl for answering my questions and the recommendations.  Hope you have a happy new year!
 

Hard to believe another year has come and gone beerchug.gif

 

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Originally Posted by rossk26 View Post

Hello,

 

I am after some help and advice on picking some in ear headphones/in ear monitors.

 

The main use will be with portable devices whilst travelling, and my budget is around £20-30 (yes I'm English)!!

 

I like all kinds of music genre from Hip Hop, Rock, Pop, Jazz and Folk, so an all rounder would be ideal.  Comfort and sound quality are my priorities.

 

I have a gift voucher to use at a high street store, and the following brands are available (Fischer Audio, VIBE, Sennheiser, Monster, AKG, Eers, Philips, Skullcandy, Bose, Beats, Bowers & Wilkins, Harmon Kardon, WeSc, Yamaha)

 

Thank you

 

Some of those brands don't have any products in your price range..

The Philips SHE3580 might be a good choice - cheap, comfortable, and good-sounding. Sennheiser CX280 is not bad if you're not paying more than $30 for it. The Fischer Audio Paradigm v.3 is the cheapest good Fischer if it's available and in your price range.

 

 

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Originally Posted by nuke70 View Post

Hi I'm here again. :)

 

after looking for a yamaha eph-100 and jvc ha-fxt90 locally here in PH it appears its not available here.

 

Can you direct me to a trusted online store where i can buy a yamaha eph-100 or jvc ha-fxt90.

 

Many Thanks again!

Cheers!

 

Lots of FXT90 Japan imports on eBay, many from trusted sellers. For more specific info you may be better off asking in these earphones' individual discussion/appreciation threads - there are many more owners there. 

post #9161 of 14624

Hey joker is the TG334 worth the $1000 more than the SM3 they cost as far as SQ goes because I know build quality is much better?  From reading your review I'd say no but your the one that's heard both.  I know you get diminishing returns the higher in price you go but that just seems to diminished imo with only a .3 better score on your scale.

post #9162 of 14624
Nuke70, I sent you a PM. Im letting go of my Yammies.

The TG334 is technically better but imo only 10% of it on regular usage or regular daps coz it scales better with good gears. You might be surprised if you compare it with W4. W4 also shines well with good gear. The TG334s also advantage is the build quality.
post #9163 of 14624
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Originally Posted by Techno Kid View Post

Hey joker is the TG334 worth the $1000 more than the SM3 they cost as far as SQ goes because I know build quality is much better?  From reading your review I'd say no but your the one that's heard both.  I know you get diminishing returns the higher in price you go but that just seems to diminished imo with only a .3 better score on your scale.


That's really not a question I can answer. I do think the MH334 sounds appreciably better than the SM3 and my scale was never meant to be quantitative. It just positions things in a hierarchy as I hear them.

 

It's kind of a slippery slope to talk about value like that. You could say the same comparing the SM3 to some $120-150 earphones, and also comparing said $120-150 earphones to the RE0 at $49. Eventually you'll get down to something like the Philips SHE3850, which looks to be 70% as good as the MH334 on my scale at 0.7% of the cost. It's a winner on paper, and yet somehow many choose to move past it. Same goes for the SM3 (or W4, PFE232, EX1000, CK10, etc) - it's good value next to the $1000+ monitors, but it doesn't render them irrelevant. 

post #9164 of 14624

Hi Joker after thorough searching of earphones on the local stores in my area it appears the noticeable earphone i saw was klipsch image and dunu dn-19 tai chi though personally i dont like the look of overhead earphone what can you say between the two? Best Regards,


Edited by nuke70 - 12/27/12 at 10:55pm
post #9165 of 14624
Quote:
Some of those brands don't have any products in your price range..

The Philips SHE3580 might be a good choice - cheap, comfortable, and good-sounding. Sennheiser CX280 is not bad if you're not paying more than $30 for it. The Fischer Audio Paradigm v.3 is the cheapest good Fischer if it's available and in your price range.

 

Thanks for the reply

 

I have the following to choose from:

 

- Sennheiser CX200-II Street

- Sennheiser CX 275s In-Ear Headphones with Microphone, Black

- Sennheiser CX160 In-Ear Headphones, Black

- Sennheiser OMX185 Around-Ear Headphones, Black

- Sennheiser MX375 In-Ear Headphones, Black

- Sennheiser MX170 In-Ear Headphones, Black

- Philips SHE8000/10 In-Ear Headphones, Black

- Philips SHE8000WT In-Ear Headphones, White

- Philips SHE3590 In-Ear Headphones, White

- Philips SHQ4200/10 In-Ear Neckband Headphones, Red/Grey

- Philips SHE3590 In-Ear Headphones, Black

 

All are less than $30, which would you recommend?

 

Thanks again for your help

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