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post #8461 of 14587
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Originally Posted by SmrkngRvng View Post

Thanks for the recommendations! I really like the Yamaha's and am looking to buy them, but because I live in Canada it is extremely difficult. I haven't been able to find anybody who is selling new ones in Canada, including Yamaha! If anyone has any suggestions on where to look I'd really appreciate it. Thanks!

i recommend the vsonic gr07

check out headphone bar- shipping is 1 cent, with a reasonable price, and shipping across the country took me around 4 days

post #8462 of 14587
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post

Regarding recabling, this seems like it might be an ideal option for the 272 assuming it's possible to get into those shells: http://www.head-fi.org/t/601360/universals-modded-with-removable-cables-fischer-audio-dba-02-brainwavz-b2-um3x-sleek-audio

Yes, it's in fact trivial - rotate the long "strain relief" (more like strain creator) stem until the side of the case loosens. I've figured that out yesterday - now I need a good cable for not so unreasonable price.. Paying $40 for Westone cable is a bit ridiculous, even if it's a great cable.

(Note that RE272 is $250 new.)

 

Extra fun: it appears that RE272 is more tunable than it seems - not only the filter, but also some vents covered with paper on the back of the microdriver... and the visible vent on the back is connected to the driver chamber through another pinhole vent, also covered with paper.

Just removing the back of the case increases bass, notably. Doesn't really sound like anything else detrimental happened - the driver seems to be fit for a custom IEM remake.

 

Apparently the vent filter controls 2.5k resonance. Perhaps could be made slightly more absorptive than paper... Covering all the vents with polymer clay (PVC base) converts it into something almost V-shaped, weird loundess-like signature. Covering all but one works extremely well, better than original paper.

 

With the front filter on, two uncovered vents work bit better - the result is slightly improved over the filterless variant with some resonant peak smoothed out.

(All testing done with Hifiman's weird shaped white silicone biflange.)

 

The case definitely chokes the driver, dropping deep bass and also creates some extra high frequency resonance. Needs replacement with something akin to what FutureSonics Ear Monitors use. (special absorptive material lining, less resonant casing)


Edited by AstralStorm - 10/24/12 at 1:43pm
post #8463 of 14587

Sony mh1c ? 

 

 

clieos review : 

 

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/632892/review-sony-mh1-the-best-kept-secret

 

 

only 30 dollars and - 

 

rated rather high in SQ

post #8464 of 14587
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Originally Posted by turgid View Post

Sony mh1c ? 

 

 

clieos review : 

 

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/632892/review-sony-mh1-the-best-kept-secret

 

 

only 30 dollars and - 

 

rated rather high in SQ


They can be found for $20 here: http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Livesound-Headphones-Earphones-Head-sets/dp/B008CCSD7K

post #8465 of 14587
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by SmrkngRvng View Post

Thanks for the recommendations! I really like the Yamaha's and am looking to buy them, but because I live in Canada it is extremely difficult. I haven't been able to find anybody who is selling new ones in Canada, including Yamaha! If anyone has any suggestions on where to look I'd really appreciate it. Thanks!

 

I would ask in the long EPH-100 thread - I'm sure someone from Canada has already found the best way to obtain them. 

 

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Originally Posted by AstralStorm View Post

Yes, it's in fact trivial - rotate the long "strain relief" (more like strain creator) stem until the side of the case loosens. I've figured that out yesterday - now I need a good cable for not so unreasonable price.. Paying $40 for Westone cable is a bit ridiculous, even if it's a great cable.

(Note that RE272 is $250 new.)

 

Using a cheap IEM as a cable donor can be the way to go. My apple dual-driver is now using a MEElec cable with mic from a ~$6 M2P. If you're not going to make it detachable you can find a great Westone-style twisted cable on the Rock-It Sounds R-11 for $25. 

 

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Originally Posted by turgid View Post

Sony mh1c ? 

 

 

Never heard them.

post #8466 of 14587
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Originally Posted by hitme987 View Post

Its basically the same, all colors have the same drivers, build quality etc, I dont think they changed anything..You can just mail @ support@meelec.com to just confirm it though

answer received, Mike says: "The drivers have not been changed; however, we started matching them more closely this year and a new nozzle filter was introduced in the summer to increase sweat resistance. This changed the performance very slightly but the emphasis has always been made on keeping the sound as close to the previous-gen M6 as possible as our customers are generally very happy with the way the M6 sounds for the cost"

post #8467 of 14587
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post

 

I posted my brief thoughts on the earpods here: http://www.head-fi.org/t/629283/mini-review-thoughts-on-apple-earpods-as-compared-to-the-old-ibuds 

 

Technically Earpods are not IEMs since there is no seal between the housing and ear canal so I didn't add them to this thread. 

 

I've only heard the AF78 briefly at a show. It was bass-heavy and not all that coherent and didn't compete well with the GR07 I'd brought. I am not sure if that was the final tuning or not but at this point I wouldn't blindly count on it being a GR07 competitor.

Oh ok, so they are bass-heavy... didn't know that. I actually tend to like that over the rather bright DBA-02/B2
Do they compete with the likes of Atrio MG7's or similar

In other words, do they compare with other models which have a strong bass response? 

post #8468 of 14587
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Originally Posted by nehcrow View Post

Oh ok, so they are bass-heavy... didn't know that. I actually tend to like that over the rather bright DBA-02/B2
Do they compete with the likes of Atrio MG7's or similar

In other words, do they compare with other models which have a strong bass response? 

 

I only had a GR07 and UM Miracle with me to compare. If I had to guess I would say that the AF78 tuning I heard falls below the MG7 but again I did not spend long enough with them to have a complete picture. 

post #8469 of 14587

Hey guys, I have a question (I'm a noob)

 

Well you know how the old iPod earbuds that come in the box always blow out or lose its bass after ~3 months of adequate use? Does that happen with higher-end earbuds? Unless it's the cable I'd understand... But, for example, if listening to some Etymotics or Triple.Fi 10s or Westone universals at loud volumes all the time, will they "blowout?" I don't know much about earbuds right now, but I assume the dynamic microspeaker(?) blows out, but balanced armature speakers don't have that tendency because... they're balanced armatures? 

 

It's probably confusing and the terminology is watered down, but if anyone could give me advice it'd be greatly appreciated! smily_headphones1.gif

Reason being I'm ordering customs soon as my first high-end pair of IEMs

post #8470 of 14587

I just wanted to say.

This thread is soo informative.

 

I'll continue to anticipate and wait for a review on the Sony XB90ex, Sony XBA-3, and Brainwavz R1.

post #8471 of 14587

m5 looks good .

post #8472 of 14587

I'm interested to see what you think of the Sennheiser ie60's. I just bought them, and I love the sound, but I hate the isolation, or lack thereof. I'm going to try some new tips, but coming from klipsch x10's which I just had stolen; I miss the isolation the most.

post #8473 of 14587
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Killerapist View Post

Hey guys, I have a question (I'm a noob)

 

Well you know how the old iPod earbuds that come in the box always blow out or lose its bass after ~3 months of adequate use? Does that happen with higher-end earbuds? Unless it's the cable I'd understand... But, for example, if listening to some Etymotics or Triple.Fi 10s or Westone universals at loud volumes all the time, will they "blowout?" I don't know much about earbuds right now, but I assume the dynamic microspeaker(?) blows out, but balanced armature speakers don't have that tendency because... they're balanced armatures? 

 

It's probably confusing and the terminology is watered down, but if anyone could give me advice it'd be greatly appreciated! smily_headphones1.gif

Reason being I'm ordering customs soon as my first high-end pair of IEMs

 

High-end earphones can be overdriven just like any other sets. Being driven to the point of full excursion/clipping can definitely damage drivers but I am not sure if the balanced armatures are mechanically less susceptible to wear or more when the limit is reached. Now, where the limit is will depend on the set in question -  I am sure some sets will tolerate loud volume much better (and some just won't go all that loud). 

 

I feel like this needs a hearing safety plug so here's some good reading: http://www.sciencedaily.com/videos/2007/0610-mp3_players_how_loud_is_too_loud.htm

 

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Originally Posted by atomikn00b View Post

I just wanted to say.

This thread is soo informative.

 

I'll continue to anticipate and wait for a review on the Sony XB90ex, Sony XBA-3, and Brainwavz R1.

 

Thanks beerchug.gif

 

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Originally Posted by suman134 View Post

m5 looks good .

 

Sounds good too wink.gif

 

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Originally Posted by AnnonTheMouse View Post

I'm interested to see what you think of the Sennheiser ie60's. I just bought them, and I love the sound, but I hate the isolation, or lack thereof. I'm going to try some new tips, but coming from klipsch x10's which I just had stolen; I miss the isolation the most.

 

I have an IE6 here. It's pretty good and very comfortable but isolation is mediocre as with all of the Sennheiser IEs. If the IE60 is anything like my IE6, you would probably like the Yamaha EPH-100 - better sound quality and better isolation with a similarly warm sound and plentiful bass.

post #8474 of 14587

how is the bass quantity on RE-262 compared to EPH-100? I think the bass on the EPH-100 is just perfect, but now I'm looking for a nice, spacious sounding IEM to go with my E11

post #8475 of 14587
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Originally Posted by chipstjuven View Post

how is the bass quantity on RE-262 compared to EPH-100? I think the bass on the EPH-100 is just perfect, but now I'm looking for a nice, spacious sounding IEM to go with my E11

 

 

Compared to the EPH-100, the RE-262 are bass light. They can perform very well with the bass boost from a portable amp, though. The main advantage of the RE-262 over the EPH-100 are the mids, highs and soundstage. For bass alone, the EPH-100 are superior... I own both, and they complement each other very well!

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