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post #14431 of 14602

I just got a GR07 Classic after finding the BE a tad too warm for me and I've been loving it. Thanks for the comparisons and good job on the warnings. I'm not sure if it's just sellers trying to get the most they can or if they're just going by the sticker on the box (the earlier run of Classics were mislabled as MKII on the box and warranty card) but people need to be aware of the proper value of these. Thanks again for all your efforts and I look forward to hearing your impressions of the newer crop of budget-fi products that came out in the past months. :) 

post #14432 of 14602
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post
 

 

I've had the KC06 for a week or two but have been busy with other things, like the GR07 Classic. I like the midrange of the KC06 - there's a bump there that reminds me of the Fidue A63. It's not as warm as the Fidue and brighter/less smooth at the top, but the general mid-forwardness is there. Midrange presence is great and vocals are very clear and extremely intelligible. There's also plenty of sparkle. So far I'm not impressed with the bass, which is decent but lacks depth and doesn't sound very solid, or the soundstage depth, not that this is uncommon for budget earphones. 

 

The Heaven II is flatter and more accurate than these and the FXT90 is significantly warmer and bassier. 

 

 

:beerchug:

Thanks!

 

Please do excuse me as I'm totally a newbie in the audiophile world so I might not use correct terminology.

 

The KC06 is V shaped? You did mention FXT90 is V shaped too in your website.

 

I actually dislike high levels of treble because it sometimes pierces my ears? I have a pair of speakers that has treble control on it and when I increase it, I totally hate it. I did have a Allessandro MS1i before and the high notes really pierced my ears lol. I think this should be called sibilance?

So V shaped earphones are not for me?

 

I would love to have an earphone with really good mid range (vocals) and sound that feels really rich and thick. If this is called warm, then do you have any good recommendations? I like really good clarity but don't like high trebles so would the FXT90 still fit into my requirements? It's reasonably priced too!

Or do you think I should get the Heaven II instead? My friend told me that the mid range and vocals are amazing!

 

Or just top up for the Yamaha EPH-100 :D


Edited by Pensel - 8/31/14 at 2:23am
post #14433 of 14602
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Originally Posted by Pensel View Post
 

Thanks!

 

Please do excuse me as I'm totally a newbie in the audiophile world so I might not use correct terminology.

 

The KC06 is V shaped? You did mention FXT90 is V shaped too in your website.

 

I actually dislike high levels of treble because it sometimes pierces my ears? I have a pair of speakers that has treble control on it and when I increase it, I totally hate it. I did have a Allessandro MS1i before and the high notes really pierced my ears lol. I think this should be called sibilance?

So V shaped earphones are not for me?

 

I would love to have an earphone with really good mid range (vocals) and sound that feels really rich and thick. If this is called warm, then do you have any good recommendations? I like really good clarity but don't like high trebles so would the FXT90 still fit into my requirements? It's reasonably priced too!

Or do you think I should get the Heaven II instead? My friend told me that the mid range and vocals are amazing!

 

Instead of KC06 or FXT90, the T-1E is good too with surely smoother highs than either of those which have more energy and noticeable peaks from my understanding...

post #14434 of 14602
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Originally Posted by Pensel View Post


Or do you think I should get the Heaven II instead? My friend told me that the mid range and vocals are amazing!

 

  heaven II is low on bass , a bit forward mids and smoother highs then even re-400 , i think its a good choice if you can do without much bass .

post #14435 of 14602
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Originally Posted by ZapX629 View Post
 

I just got a GR07 Classic after finding the BE a tad too warm for me and I've been loving it. Thanks for the comparisons and good job on the warnings. I'm not sure if it's just sellers trying to get the most they can or if they're just going by the sticker on the box (the earlier run of Classics were mislabled as MKII on the box and warranty card) but people need to be aware of the proper value of these. Thanks again for all your efforts and I look forward to hearing your impressions of the newer crop of budget-fi products that came out in the past months. :) 

 

Hard to say whether ignorance or malice are to blame, but with the mislabeled boxes it's just too easy for consumers to pay more than they need to. 

 

 

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Originally Posted by Pensel View Post
 

Thanks!

 

Please do excuse me as I'm totally a newbie in the audiophile world so I might not use correct terminology.

 

The KC06 is V shaped? You did mention FXT90 is V shaped too in your website.

 

I actually dislike high levels of treble because it sometimes pierces my ears? I have a pair of speakers that has treble control on it and when I increase it, I totally hate it. I did have a Allessandro MS1i before and the high notes really pierced my ears lol. I think this should be called sibilance?

So V shaped earphones are not for me?

 

I would love to have an earphone with really good mid range (vocals) and sound that feels really rich and thick. If this is called warm, then do you have any good recommendations? I like really good clarity but don't like high trebles so would the FXT90 still fit into my requirements? It's reasonably priced too!

Or do you think I should get the Heaven II instead? My friend told me that the mid range and vocals are amazing!

 

The KC06 is not at all v-shaped, it might actually be the opposite. Mids are pretty forward, although the treble is not lacking in presence either. It's not harsh, but if you're treble-sensitive I would probably avoid it, and would definitely avoid the Heaven II, which is a little less smooth, and most v-shaped earphones (v shape by definition means that there is some treble emphasis). There are tons of earphones that don't have bright treble at all, like the Fidue A63 and Sony MH1C, and would be totally safe from a harshness/sibilance standpoint. 


Edited by ljokerl - 8/31/14 at 2:34am
post #14436 of 14602
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post
 

 

Hard to say whether ignorance or malice are to blame, but with the mislabeled boxes it's just too easy for consumers to pay more than they need to. 

 

 

 

The KC06 is not at all v-shaped, it might actually be the opposite. Mids are pretty forward, although the treble is not lacking in presence either. It's not harsh, but if you're treble-sensitive I would probably avoid it, and would definitely avoid the Heaven II, which is a little less smooth, and most v-shaped earphones (v shape by definition means that there is some treble emphasis). There are tons of earphones that don't have bright treble at all, like the Fidue A63 and Sony MH1C, and would be totally safe from a harshness/sibilance standpoint. 


Bright treble as in ear piercing high notes? I don't like that lol

 

Is there a better alternative than the Fidue A63 or Sony MH1C? How about the Yamaha EPH-100? Would it be great for me? :)

 

Or any advice on FXT90 vs EPH 100?


Edited by Pensel - 8/31/14 at 4:16am
post #14437 of 14602
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Pensel View Post
 


Bright treble as in ear piercing high notes? I don't like that lol

 

Is there a better alternative than the Fidue A63 or Sony MH1C? How about the Yamaha EPH-100? Would it be great for me? :)

 

Or any advice on FXT90 vs EPH 100?

 

Different price range and not as smooth as the MH1C, but overall the EPH-100 should work. It doesn't have the treble boost of the FXT90. 

post #14438 of 14602
post #14439 of 14602

Hi joker,

 

have you tried the Astrotek AX-60 ? Any thoughts/impressions ?

Thanx :beerchug:

post #14440 of 14602
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Originally Posted by jant71 View Post
 

Something Mr. Joker will surely want to try out... http://europe.yamaha.com/en/products/audio-visual/headphones/eph-m200/?mode=model :)

 

Yep... I want that. Any word on price? 

 

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Originally Posted by proedros View Post
 

Hi joker,

 

have you tried the Astrotek AX-60 ? Any thoughts/impressions ?

Thanx :beerchug:

 

Had too google what it is, so no, unfortunately. 

post #14441 of 14602
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Something Mr. Joker will surely want to try out... http://europe.yamaha.com/en/products/audio-visual/headphones/eph-m200/?mode=model smily_headphones1.gif

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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post

Yep... I want that. Any word on price? 


Had too google what it is, so no, unfortunately. 

Holy cow. I just made an order for the eph 100 and the m200 comes out?? Should I cancel my order??
post #14442 of 14602

Seems to be taking the EPH-100's original slot at $149. Out in Japan already for about that price. N.A. price not mentioned yet. Also, a cheaper $99 M100 version w/o the Titanium tube. Interesting they went in the other direction from a microdriver to a 15mm.

 

 

(credit to e-earphone.jp) The M200 and M100 alongside each other...


Edited by jant71 - 9/2/14 at 2:12pm
post #14443 of 14602
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by jant71 View Post
 

Seems to be taking the EPH-100's original slot at $149. Out in Japan already for about that price. N.A. price not mentioned yet. Also, a cheaper $99 M100 version w/o the Titanium tube. Interesting they went in the other direction from a microdriver to a 15mm.

 

 

Right, especially considering that the EPH-100 didn't exactly get bad reviews. Seems like it might be a case of a parallel development rather than a direct replacement. 

post #14444 of 14602

Just speculation but might just turn out that is the price they feel good with and all their top earphone models will come in at $149 to start and drop later regardless of design approach. Though Yamaha have had this type of design more than anything else for their in-ear models. Not surprised to see an evolution of that design. The M100 and M200 resemble the S1 and S2 quite a bit as well. The numbering scheme, pricing, the plastic used in the lower being replaced with metal parts in the higher model. Interesting to see how close they sound to each other as well; both S1/S2 vs. the Yamaha models, M100 vs. M200, and M200 vs. EPH-100. Quite intriguing! 


Edited by jant71 - 8/31/14 at 5:28pm
post #14445 of 14602

ljokerl which one do you think that isolates better, Philips TX2 or SoundMagic E10?

My friend is looking for some IEM with mic (not interested in Pistons) and I guess this two should be a nice option for the price.

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