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post #14371 of 14596

joker , can the inear stage driver 2 be easily driven by cowon j3 with out an amp ?

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Originally Posted by suman134 View Post
 

joker , can the inear stage driver 2 be easily driven by cowon j3 with out an amp ?

 

Yes, it can. The J3 pairs well with warmer IEMs like the StageDiver, too. 

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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post
 

 

Yes, it can. The J3 pairs well with warmer IEMs like the StageDiver, too. 

Hi joker, sorry to bother....

 

If i wanted to get a upgrade to the philips she3580 while maintaining the same type of sound what would you recomend me?

I also like the sound of the hd25's and over ear momentums....

 

Something not very expensive....

 

I have been looking at these: xiaomi piston 2, v sonic vsd1 and vsd1s, vsd 3s, havi b3 pro 1 and the rha ma750i.....

 

Any of these resembles the sound of the philips but better?  Any other suggestions? Something good but not exceeding the 100 dollar mark.... actually the cheaper the better.... more iem's... XD

 

I lsiten mostly to pop, rock, indie and a bit of edm...

 

Cheers....


Edited by Pedro Oliveira - 8/23/14 at 8:52am
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Havis are excellent but need an amp, which would cost you more and wouldn't do the best with EDM since the bass isn't big. The RHA are more than 100, I believe. I would definitely get the VSD3S over the VSD1 as it's improved in most areas. The VSD3S has a similar sound signature, but the mids aren't as recessed and it has infinitely better sonic presentation than the Philips. If you love the Philips you'd love the 3S.

 

(I feel bad every time I answer something in this thread because I don't want to hijack Joker's show, but I know he hasn't heard all of these yet; so my apologies to Joker if it bothers him).

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Originally Posted by Pedro Oliveira View Post
 

Hi joker, sorry to bother....

 

If i wanted to get a upgrade to the philips she3580 while maintaining the same type of sound what would you recomend me?

I also like the sound of the hd25's and over ear momentums....

 

Something not very expensive....

 

I have been looking at these: xiaomi piston 2, v sonic vsd1 and vsd1s, vsd 3s, havi b3 pro 1 and the rha ma750i.....

 

Any of these resembles the sound of the philips but better?  Any other suggestions? Something good but not exceeding the 100 dollar mark.... actually the cheaper the better.... more iem's... XD

 

I lsiten mostly to pop, rock, indie and a bit of edm...

 

Cheers....


Edited by ZapX629 - 8/23/14 at 9:07am
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I'm surprised the Panasonic RPHJE120k isn't on here. They're insanely popular.
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Glad to know the highs are not too rolled off on the vsd3s and that nothing sounds muffled or too colored.... the mids are not to recessed as well? That only leaves the bass to discuss.... how boomier is the vsd3? Wich do you think is the best all rounder?

 

Curious thing.... a couple of weeks ago i was moaning on a portuguese forum about loving the mometums but having to let them go due to the fit.... someone suggested me the weston 4r as the iem with the closest sound signature to the momentums (over ear)..... Dont know if you tried both the momentums and the westone's, but if you did.... do you agree with the statement? If yes, wich do you think is closer to the westone 4r and therefore the momentums type of sound, the 3 or the 3s?

 

Cheers

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I've only briefly listened to the Momentum at a hearable stand, and not nearly long enough to form an opinion. I haven't heard the 4r, but this is a video comparison: 

 

 

Once Joker hears and tests out the VSD3 and 3S he can tell you more about it, but again, you're comparing a 4 BA IEM to a single dynamic driver that costs a great deal less. Don't expect it to kill the 4r, but the signature is supposed to be a pretty good reference.


Edited by ZapX629 - 8/23/14 at 12:56pm
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Originally Posted by ZapX629 View Post
 

I've only briefly listened to the Momentum at a hearable stand, and not nearly long enough to form an opinion. I haven't heard the 4r, but this is a video comparison: 

 

 

Once Joker hears and tests out the VSD3 and 3S he can tell you more about it, but again, you're comparing a 4 BA IEM to a single dynamic driver that costs a great deal less. Don't expect it to kill the 4r, but the signature is supposed to be a pretty good reference.

Of course not.... (regarding a cheap iem beating the westone....) XD

 

But yes it seems that v sonic kind of nailed it wich seems promising... :)

 

What do you recomend as the better all rounder (if possible with the descriptions of what i am looking for in mind)? Wich to you are the pros and cons on the 3 and 3s? Is it true that they have different levels of sensitivity?

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I haven't heard both, so I only know what others have said about the 3. The 3 seems to have less forward mids, more bass and hotter treble, and overall more aggressive sound (maybe due to less sensitivity). The 3S is a bit more balanced, with deeper, less boomy bass, slightly laid back mids, and a bit more forward upper mids and treble, overall more laid back. Again though, they aren't that different. You won't know the difference without comparing both side by side. 

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Originally Posted by Pedro Oliveira View Post
 

Hi joker, sorry to bother....

 

If i wanted to get a upgrade to the philips she3580 while maintaining the same type of sound what would you recomend me?

I also like the sound of the hd25's and over ear momentums....

 

Something not very expensive....

 

I have been looking at these: xiaomi piston 2, v sonic vsd1 and vsd1s, vsd 3s, havi b3 pro 1 and the rha ma750i.....

 

Any of these resembles the sound of the philips but better?  Any other suggestions? Something good but not exceeding the 100 dollar mark.... actually the cheaper the better.... more iem's... XD

 

I lsiten mostly to pop, rock, indie and a bit of edm...

 

Cheers....

 

The Piston2 is a little more mid-bassy but otherwise a good option. The VSD1/S are pretty different - less bass (esp deep bass) and brighter. I really like the 1S, though. Good choice if you don't mind moving away from the 3580 sound sig a bit (a W4R signature is also not very similar to the Philips, but closer to the Momentum). 

 

The RHA is not as bright as VSonics but has more lower treble presence than the Philips. Bass is better (more deep bass, less mid-bass) compared to the pistons but not sure I can recommend it given your preference for higher value/less cost. 

 

 

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I'm surprised the Panasonic RPHJE120k isn't on here. They're insanely popular.

 

I have two and they are both trash. One has overly boomy bass and the other is imbalanced by a large amount. Very bad QC/consistency from a sound standpoint. 

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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post
 

 

The Piston2 is a little more mid-bassy but otherwise a good option. The VSD1/S are pretty different - less bass (esp deep bass) and brighter. I really like the 1S, though. Good choice if you don't mind moving away from the 3580 sound sig a bit (a W4R signature is also not very similar to the Philips, but closer to the Momentum). 

 

The RHA is not as bright as VSonics but has more lower treble presence than the Philips. Bass is better (more deep bass, less mid-bass) compared to the pistons but not sure I can recommend it given your preference for higher value/less cost. 

 

As i hd25, amperior, momentum over ear and philips she3580 (XD) love you think the vsonic vsd3s's will not suit my tastes?

They are supposidely tuned with the westone 4r sound sig in mind.... i prefer not to adventure myseld with the 1S.... i am sure it sounds great but as and edm and rock listener i am not sure if the lack of bass like the one on the she3580, momentum or hd25 would suit me... i am not a basshead as you can see but from my headphones preferences you know i like a nice amount of deep, tight bass... :)

 

The havi b3 pro1 would be an option for me? From what i read they seem to be a bit leaner sounding.... dont know if i am wrong...

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Originally Posted by Pedro Oliveira View Post
 

As i hd25, amperior, momentum over ear and philips she3580 (XD) love you think the vsonic vsd3s's will not suit my tastes?

They are supposidely tuned with the westone 4r sound sig in mind.... i prefer not to adventure myseld with the 1S.... i am sure it sounds great but as and edm and rock listener i am not sure if the lack of bass like the one on the she3580, momentum or hd25 would suit me... i am not a basshead as you can see but from my headphones preferences you know i like a nice amount of deep, tight bass... :)

 

The havi b3 pro1 would be an option for me? From what i read they seem to be a bit leaner sounding.... dont know if i am wrong...

 

I don't have any experience with the VSD3S or Havi B3 so I really can't say. The Westone 4R does not have more bass than the VSD1S and not as much as your three current headphones. 

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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post

I don't have any experience with the VSD3S or Havi B3 so I really can't say. The Westone 4R does not have more bass than the VSD1S and not as much as your three current headphones. 

Really? But i read the vsd3s had a tiny bit more bass than the philips she3580, so being based on the 4r i assumed the 1r had at least the same or more bass quantity and impact as the philips.... Maybe i understood wrong... But if this was true that would be good because the bass quantity, impact and tightness on the philips satisfys me for everything, even edm.....

By the way joker.... How does the xiaomii piston 2 compare with the she3580? Its a improvement or a sidegrade? Are they very different in terms of sound sig?
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 and guys at snapdeal you can grab an ah-d340 for a rupee under 3400 Rs . sorry !! wrong thread !!


Edited by suman134 - 8/24/14 at 4:59am
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 and guys at snapdeal you can grab an ah-d340 for a rupee under 3400 Rs .

Snapdeal is indian right suman? Do they ship to europe?

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