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Originally Posted by kl500 View Post
 

Hisound BA100 is discounted in China to $16!! So, using Taobao agents, it could be purchased for about $25.

http://s.taobao.com/search?initiative_id=staobaoz_20140312&js=1&q=ba100&stats_click=search_radio_all%3A1

Value 10, isn't it?

 

Sure that's a genuine HiSound unit and not a knockoff with dynamic drivers? That’s pretty cheap for a BA earphone in general, never mind one that’s not on the lowest rung of the BA ladder.

 

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Originally Posted by Lukalop View Post

Is it possible to get an electrostatic IEM? I ask because the frequency response is apparently completely neutral. If not now maybe somewhere down the line?

 

I tried out a set of STAX SR-003mkII IEMs at CES this year. They were pretty good and had a very airy sound but I wouldn't say they are miles ahead of conventional IEMs in a similar price range, See here: http://theheadphonelist.com/ces-2014-headphone-coverage-part-2-audio-technica-stax-beyerdynamic-and-more/ 

 

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Originally Posted by SebsG View Post

I think im gonna get the 9927's, they're just the 8320's in black right? They seem like the best option for me, but it's definitely gonna be an upgrade from my current iems because their cable is broken and I have to move it around to get sound.

And thanks Joker for your defication to this thread. smily_headphones1.gif

 

Funny typo.

 

Yes, the 9927 should be just a black version of the 8320.

post #13217 of 14595
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Originally Posted by esteebin View Post

 

Have you checked this?

http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-headphones-under-30/

 

The author should've asked joker to be part of the IEM testing :D but if I were there, my vote's on Philips SHE3590 hands down.

post #13218 of 14595
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Posted a short introduction to Bluetooth audio technology here: http://theheadphonelist.com/wireless-fidelity-making-sense-bluetooth-headphone-technology/

 

I tried doing a bit of research on Bluetooth headphones last week and couldn't find what I needed in one place. I spent a few days piecing it all together from various sources and eventually decided to pool all the info in what I hope is a digestible format. Perhaps it will help those who are as clueless as I was get up to speed on the technologies, challenges, and limitations of Bluetooth audio :o 

post #13219 of 14595

Hey Joker,

 

I had been using a pair of VSonic GR02 Bass Edition IEMs for near about 2 years, and I loved them. Then the biflange tips fell off somewhere and they weren't the same again, and then they gave up on me completely, and I got a set of HiSound Wooduo 2 as a replacement/apparent upgrade. They are good, but I really did not like them that much. The bass is good, but covers a lot of the other frequencies. So now I was in the process of researching and procuring another set of IEMs, and I had kind of shortlisted Sony MH1C and VSonic VSD1. If there are any other options you would recommend, I would be glad to hear about it. My budget is not much, max to max around 50-70$ range. My concerns/thoughts about the other 2 are:

 

Sony MH1C - Not Officially available in India, but getting it on ebay India for INR 1200 (thats roughly 20$, so that brings a doubt to my mind, are they fake? they are probably imported/grey market items).

VSonic VSD1 - Available for about INR 3500 (60$)

 

Now I have learnt that the MH1C cable is Bad (if not fake that is), and that the VSD1 though good overall, the bass isn't That much.

 

Can you give me a comparison of these 2 with GR02s and Wooduos? Will they really be an upgrade or just a replacement? Do you think the MH1C can be available for 20$?


Edited by HeadHoncho - 3/12/14 at 11:53pm
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Yes it's truly a revolution but unfortunately they're only comparing it to an old Sennheiser MX400 which is a dynamic driver earbud. They should at least compare it with the current BA IEMs. I think it's still a long way to go before they truly refine it and be ready for the commercial market.


Edited by Francisk - 3/13/14 at 4:38am
post #13222 of 14595
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Originally Posted by HeadHoncho View Post
 

Hey Joker,

 

I had been using a pair of VSonic GR02 Bass Edition IEMs for near about 2 years, and I loved them. Then the biflange tips fell off somewhere and they weren't the same again, and then they gave up on me completely, and I got a set of HiSound Wooduo 2 as a replacement/apparent upgrade. They are good, but I really did not like them that much. The bass is good, but covers a lot of the other frequencies. So now I was in the process of researching and procuring another set of IEMs, and I had kind of shortlisted Sony MH1C and VSonic VSD1. If there are any other options you would recommend, I would be glad to hear about it. My budget is not much, max to max around 50-70$ range. My concerns/thoughts about the other 2 are:

 

Sony MH1C - Not Officially available in India, but getting it on ebay India for INR 1200 (thats roughly 20$, so that brings a doubt to my mind, are they fake? they are probably imported/grey market items).

VSonic VSD1 - Available for about INR 3500 (60$)

 

Now I have learnt that the MH1C cable is Bad (if not fake that is), and that the VSD1 though good overall, the bass isn't That much.

 

Can you give me a comparison of these 2 with GR02s and Wooduos? Will they really be an upgrade or just a replacement? Do you think the MH1C can be available for 20$?

 

The Wooduo2 is something that's really only suitable for bassheads. The GR02 is bassier than the VSD1 by a margin, but the VSD1 is not lacking in bass compared to a flat/neutral sound. I quite like it.

 

Is that $20 for a bulk-package MH1C? If so that's not too far off what the US prices were before they got very popular. It's a darker, warmer sound compared to the VSD1, for example, but hard not to recommend at this price even with the crap cable.

 

PS you might also want to try a Philips SHE3580 or SHE3590 - they're very inexpensive and close to the GR02BE in sound quality. 

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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post

 

PS you might also want to try a Philips SHE3580 or SHE3590 - they're very inexpensive and close to the GR02BE in sound quality. 

 

+1000. For people who want cheap earphones with fun sound and still new to IEM stuff, SHE3590 is all they need. But, placing Sony's hybrid tips is a must because the stock's tips are as hard as bullets. The hybrid tips make it the most comfy IEM one ever have, although the isolation doesn't improve much IMO.

 

Also note that it can be worn over the ear :D it takes a practice.

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yep! you're right, i remember , few decades ago when kevlar appears there was  some articles, how to make speaker diaphragms from it....    ( video: OLED no more just one decade... )

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My 9927's should be here tomorrow or satutday. biggrin.gif
I got two day shipping for like $4 extra (:
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i have a question regarding audio cabling in earphones.

so the question is :

i know that connecting a speaker/receiver setup with digital connection is better than analog.

for example, hdmi is much better than the analog red/white connection.

so, what about earphones?

how does the 3.5mm connection fare with all this?

why don't they make a digital standard for earphone connection?

thank you

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Originally Posted by Amitl View Post
 

i have a question regarding audio cabling in earphones.

so the question is :

i know that connecting a speaker/receiver setup with digital connection is better than analog.

for example, hdmi is much better than the analog red/white connection.

so, what about earphones?

how does the 3.5mm connection fare with all this?

why don't they make a digital standard for earphone connection?

thank you

Drivers only accept analog input, so somewhere along the chain, you need to convert it back to analog.

 
If the earphones accepted a digital input, they'd require a Digital to Analog Converter (DAC) plus an amplifier built into the earphones. They would require a power input (to power the DAC and amp). That would add a lot to the bulk and expense of earphones.

 

An earphone cable is not very long as cables go. So the potential for signal degradation is very low.

post #13228 of 14595
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Originally Posted by Gandasaputra View Post
 

 

+1000. For people who want cheap earphones with fun sound and still new to IEM stuff, SHE3590 is all they need. But, placing Sony's hybrid tips is a must because the stock's tips are as hard as bullets. The hybrid tips make it the most comfy IEM one ever have, although the isolation doesn't improve much IMO.

 

Also note that it can be worn over the ear :D it takes a practice.

 

The Meelec M6 double-flanges can improve isolation on those a little and don't sound half bad. I use them over-the-ear as well. 

post #13229 of 14595

how about shure se846?

post #13230 of 14595
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Originally Posted by NIVEBL View Post
 

how about shure se846?

 

I haven't tried it. 

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