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Brainwavz B2 or Rock it R-50?

 

I heard that R-50 might be warmer with better bass. But the DBA02 mkII seems to have even better bass?

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Originally Posted by nehcrow View Post
 

Must be an incredibly tough decision mate :P
I'm going to stick with Noble, mainly due to something I've read... Can't discuss it here, as it's probably slanderous but can message ya

 

Man! Joker's review on those Noble's has gotten everyone's attention! I for one is also really eyeing on the Noble series. Can you fill me in with that as well mate?

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I gave in and ordered a JH13, since it is a safe and known quantity at this point. Now my wallet is drier than a desert.

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Originally Posted by 96rubberduckys View Post
 

Joker, in very general terms, how would you rate the Custom Art Music One against the Westone 4 or 2, or maybe SM64 for classical?

 

It seems perfect for me, just a little worried about soundstage.

 

The Music One is the most neutral and accurate of the bunch. If that's your type of sound, go for it. The W2 would be the closest to that from the other sets you're considering but from memory a little darker and with less bass body than the Music One. The SM64 is on the opposite end of the spectrum - lots more bass, less upper midrange presence, and some treble sparkle but the tone is still at least as dark as that of the W2. Very different from the neutral Music One. Presentation-wise the Music One is pretty good - maybe not quite at the W4 level but not bad at all. I'd still take the Music One for its accuracy, especially with classical.

 

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Originally Posted by engelhaft View Post
 

@Joker, could you make brief comparison between the Yamaha EPH-100, the Sony MDR 7550 and the Sure SE535?

 

The EPH-100 is way bassier than the other two - it's got tons of bass and some enhanced treble presence as well (though on the whole it's mostly smooth through the upper mids and treble).

 

The SE535 is the flattest save for a bit of top-end roll-off. It's got accurate bass, is maybe a touch warmer than neutral, and has very clear and not at all recessed mids. The 7550 is similar but has a bit more bass body, a slightly thicker sound overall, and a more out-of-the-head presentation. 

 

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Originally Posted by godlyatheist View Post
 

Wow the Noble 4S gets such a high review. Is it safe to assume the 4C version will sound the same as the 4S but with acrylic shell? I'm trying to decide which CIEM to get and right now I'm stuck between the Noble 4S/4C and the JH13.

 

No idea how the 4C compares. From what I've been told silicone vs acrylic does have an effect on the sound even with all other things equal but the degree, and whether it's an audible difference, is unclear. 

 

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Originally Posted by Sil3nce View Post
 

I come back. And this is the first thing I see. 

Well done buddy.

You're still keeping things alive haha/

 

Thanks :beerchug:

 

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Originally Posted by MoonYeol View Post

Someone needs to send a pair of Fischer Amps FA-4E your way... I'd rather not send mine since I'm in EU and I'm basically married to them. Would be extremely jealous if someone else were to put them in their ears for a longer period of time. Also, if that person had lots of ear wax my little OCD-brain would go berserk. Anyway. You need to hear them smily_headphones1.gif they are what the UE900 should've been. (I find them significantly better in every aspect of the sound.)

 

I'll try to get in contact with Fischer Amps when I have more spare time.

 

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Originally Posted by smashdroid View Post
 

Hi ljoker.. i have always taken your reviews for purchasing headphones..need a little help now..

I have sony mh1c... whats ur take on moe ss01 vs vsonic vsd1s.. i listen to more of rap, hiphop, rock, more of aggressive music.. bass is important for me.. but not much of "v" response.

 

Both of those are more v-shaped than the MH1C. What don't you like about the MH1C?

 

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Originally Posted by zubin111 View Post
 

Hi Joker, hope everything is good on your side. First of all thank you for your recommendations and time for us helping decide the IEM. Now i have a MH1C and Quadbeat, MH1C i tried to adapt but cable is a nightmare and so is the fit, i like the sound but its starting to make some static too. Coming to Quadbeat, it is airy and clear and bass is enough for me with moderate EQing but i am unable to get a proper fit for it and don't find the large housings comfortable. So now comes your work... What next? I am totally confused as to what could form an upgrade from these two, i love the warmth of MH1C but i need some airy feel for a prolonged listening. So something on lines of Quadbeat with same airiness along with a better low end response with a good firm fit is what i am looking at. I am contemplating VSD1S/VSD1, Astrotec AM90, SM E10. Your recommendation is highly appreciated as always!!

 

The VSD1S has a more v-shaped response. It has good bass and soundstage and as long as you don't mind slightly less forgiving treble it's a good choice.

 

AM-90 has less bass than the Quadbeat and is about as "airy" as the MH1C so you can eliminate that.


E10 lacks a little clarity compared to the Quadbeat but it has nice bass and a pretty airy feel. Can't think of a reason to buy it over the VSD1S, though, except if you're very worried about treble smoothness.

 

You might also want to read up on the Quadbeat 2- I haven't tried it but it looks a lot more comfortable.

 
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Originally Posted by kamcok View Post
 

Hey joker,

 

Regarding the Noble 4, do you think there would be much difference between the acrylic, silicone and the universal fit ?

 

Thanks 

 

Sorry, not sure (see above).

 

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Originally Posted by Bananiq View Post
 

Brainwavz B2 or Rock it R-50?

 

I heard that R-50 might be warmer with better bass. But the DBA02 mkII seems to have even better bass?

 

If you go for the DBA-02 mkII it would be mostly for the build quality, which is better than with most other sets of this type. It has a little more bass than the R-50 IMO but so does the VSonic VC1000, which is cheaper.

 

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Originally Posted by godlyatheist View Post
 

I gave in and ordered a JH13, since it is a safe and known quantity at this point. Now my wallet is drier than a desert.

 

That's a funny way of resolving all the uncertainty with the different Nobles ;).

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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post
 

That's a funny way of resolving all the uncertainty with the different Nobles ;).

Well, I figured if I'm splurging, I might as well go for broke. Really though, since you said the Noble 4S had less bass than the GR07  it kinda turned me off. I'm using the GR07 and I'm don't think less bass will work for me.


Edited by godlyatheist - 11/29/13 at 9:50pm
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Joker, how's the power handling of that Noble 4S? Does it start distorting if you push the volume higher or boost the bass? 

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Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by godlyatheist View Post
 

Well, I figured if I'm splurging, I might as well go for broke. Really though, since you said the Noble 4S had less bass than the GR07  it kinda turned me off. I'm using the GR07 and I'm don't think less bass will work for me.

 

Fair enough, the JH13 is definitely a better fit in that case.

 

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Originally Posted by kova4a View Post
 

Joker, how's the power handling of that Noble 4S? Does it start distorting if you push the volume higher or boost the bass? 


Nope, not at the volumes I want to test. I didn't try giving it more than a few dB of bass boost - it's just not the right earphone for those who need that much bass. The Noble is for those who feel at home with a TWFK or a HiFiMan set. 

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Having just recently purchased the 1964 ears V6 Stage, I now find myself with an order for the Noble 4 Universal. Thank you/Curse you head fi :tongue:

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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post
 

Nope, not at the volumes I want to test. I didn't try giving it more than a few dB of bass boost - it's just not the right earphone for those who need that much bass. The Noble is for those who feel at home with a TWFK or a HiFiMan set. 

Thanks for that. I'm not really looking for much bass. I'm just considering getting the Noble 4 as an upgrade for my er4s and b2. But given it's a universal version and it will have less isolation and the drivers will be pushed harder because the volume will have to be higher. That's why i'm asking about power handling coz some BAs don't always perform at their best when pushed harder and start to distort.

I guess I might get the universal version now to try it out and eventually reshell it to a 4c or 4s. 

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Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by kova4a View Post
 

Thanks for that. I'm not really looking for much bass. I'm just considering getting the Noble 4 as an upgrade for my er4s and b2. But given it's a universal version and it will have less isolation and the drivers will be pushed harder because the volume will have to be higher. That's why i'm asking about power handling coz some BAs don't always perform at their best when pushed harder and start to distort.

I guess I might get the universal version now to try it out and eventually reshell it to a 4c or 4s. 

 

Fair enough. Just tried the Noble with the parametric EQ again and I begin to hear distortion at about +5dB at ~60Hz. Without EQing I can't get distortion out of it at any tolerable listening volume. 

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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post
 

 

Fair enough. Just tried the Noble with the parametric EQ again and I begin to hear distortion at about +5dB at ~60Hz. Without EQing I can't get distortion out of it at any tolerable listening volume. 

Thanks again.

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Guys, I have spotted the Rockitsounds R50 model, however the review shows a poor isolation due to single flange tip. Is anyone aware of a good aftermarket better tip, compatible?

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Etymotic triple flanges or shure black olives isolate more.

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I wonder if I should upgrade my DAC when the JH13 arrive. I had ordered a Fiio E17 but decided to cancel it. I'm using a laptop and I want to have a small DAC, not necessarily portable but small. The Audioquest Dragonfly is interesting (about $70 with promos). Anyone have some recommendations? Prefer USB and neutral


Edited by godlyatheist - 12/1/13 at 3:01am
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First, This is one of the best lists I have seen, thank you very much. 

 

I have looked over this list many times but I am still having trouble finding the "best" IEM for me. I currently use some cheap Panasonic RPHJE120K which I like but the quality isn't really there. I also have the Monoprice buds but I find the size/fit to be awkward  & uncomfortable and I find the bass too overpowering.  I would rather not spend over $60 as these will only be used on the subway or walking around the city, I have many fullsized headphones for home use. They will be in my jeans pocket when not in use so they should be durable. 

 

bullet points:

<$60

good isolation (subway & city use)

to be used with a Samsung Galaxy phone or Sansa Clip (no amp)

Nothing too bass forward as I mostly listen to Rock music (not a lot of electronic or rap, but some).

durable

 

 

The ones I've checked off to be contenders based off this list:

Astrotec AM-800 (lacks isolation?)

Astrotec AM-90

Brainwavz M4 

Brainwavz M5

Soundmagic E30

Vsonic VC02 (might not be durable enough to throw in jeans)

UE600

 

On a higher price note I've considered these:

Shure SE215 ($100) - are the Shures worth the $30 increase over the UM1's?

Westone UM1 ($70) 

 

I am open to spend more if necessary but I would prefer not to. 

 

 

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I'm leaning towards the UM1 for $70 from Amazon. It is a bit more than I was looking to spend but the reviews are good. Any reason why I shouldn't go with the UM1? 

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Edited by AristoNYC - 12/1/13 at 9:38am
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