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post #11506 of 14594

ljokerl, i would really like to see where vsd1 stack up in the beautifully constructed "Multi-IEM Review Table"

If you can, can you give me a rough estimate of its score on "Sound"? thanks

post #11507 of 14594

the big problem , i can't choice the ear phone

 

 

brainwavz beta, pro alpha, m5,m1,r1,and s1

 

soundmagic e10, es18

 

vsonic gr02 bass, gr99, r02 silver, vc02, vsd1, vsd1s

post #11508 of 14594
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Originally Posted by johndu13 View Post
 

the big problem , i can't choice the ear phone

 

 

brainwavz beta, pro alpha, m5,m1,r1,and s1

 

soundmagic e10, es18

 

vsonic gr02 bass, gr99, r02 silver, vc02, vsd1, vsd1s

 

your a bit too worried man , easy , dont stress , you can take the s1 , vc02 or vsd1/s , they are the best sounding phones to me , but you can pick any , and the most important question is , what you want from your phone ? bass , mids , treble , isolation ? definition , and so on . everything has its con and pro .

post #11509 of 14594

i don't stress (maybe a little )

 

just i don't like  a most models existing 

its complicated  for the client 

 

 

its for my macbook , and my smartphone, 

 

i search a good sound  a models outsider 

 

i'm doing a choice, finally  i think :

 

soundmagic e10  

The es18 are not recent )

 

or brainwavz m5

(i don't like the look of m1 and pro alpha)

 

or vsonic gr04, vsd1 , vsd1s

 

hat do you mean of ''redgiant a00 and a04"

 

thank you very much for your help 

post #11510 of 14594

i''ll add 

 

a good product , with isolation correct 

with bass.middle and treble correct 

post #11511 of 14594
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Originally Posted by johndu13 View Post
 

i''ll add 

 

a good product , with isolation correct 

with bass.middle and treble correct 

 

  i think you can opt for vsd1/s , they are better then m5 and e10 when it comes to sq . or if you can , try a xb90ex .

 

i have no idea about the redgiants , clieos got them , heres the link .

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/637377/review-redgiant-audio-s-a00-malleus-and-a03-ossicle

post #11512 of 14594

Earlier I had narrowed it down to MH1C, GR02 and E30

Well now I have decided to increase the budget a little and include AM-90 and C-12 in the mix. Also have excluded MH1C solely due to its design and E30 main due to low isolation (and that I have increased my budget).

 

Now I have some queries

Does AM-90 needs an amp ( as its impedance is quite high compared to others I have looked at) ?

Does AM-90 lacks in bass ? How is it compared to GR02 ? Idk why but got such impression after reading this -

 

"The sound signature of the AM-90, while slightly warm, is not unbalanced. Bass depth is decent enough – no match for dynamic-driver sets such as the id America Spark or VSonic GR99 but good for a single armature. Mid-bass impact is a hair lower than that of the A151 but control and detail are similarly good. The low end can be classified as punchy, but also not lacking in body and fullness for a BA-based earphone – seemingly a hallmark of the SR armature."

Should be at least at a level of ES18/E10

 

Also how is VSD1 compared to VC02 ? Just in case I decide to buy from lendmeurears


Edited by Hitesh - 9/20/13 at 5:59am
post #11513 of 14594

thank you 

 

you help me to detele a models

 

 

my choice are

 

soundmagic e10 

 

or vsonic vsd1 / vsd1s

 

or redgiant a00 / a04


Edited by johndu13 - 9/20/13 at 7:19am
post #11514 of 14594
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post

 

The RE-400, on the other hand, has the right treble and midrange balance but may not have enough bass for you. It's certainly nowhere near MH1C levels and is only a little more full-bodied than the B2. I guess to date I haven't really heard anything in the price range that would not be a downgrade from the B2 and ticks all of those boxes as far as sound signature goes. 

 

I just want to say that the RE-400 are very prone to equalizing. Besides I don't get how someone can call it boring, the RE-400 sounds really natural and musical - if it's boring then maybe the problem is a source or previous coloured/inaccurate IEM, not the RE-400 itself (?).

BTW |joker| thanks for your review which, after seeing this, finally encouraged me to buy the RE-400. :beerchug:

I only wish it has a mic/remote version, but it's really great to listen to any music.


Edited by justblue - 9/20/13 at 12:03pm
post #11515 of 14594

look at the strain relieves of these :

http://www.amazon.com/JBL-J33-Premium-In-Ear-Headphones/dp/B009IKCFP6/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

i wonder how effective it really is at reducing microphonics.

by the way it appears, it should block all noise, just like a cable clip.

i wonder why is it such a rare thing to see then, and why something like the 1000$ Sennheiser IE800

doesn't incorporate *at least* something like this solution.

interesting!


Edited by Amitl - 9/20/13 at 3:29pm
post #11516 of 14594

help me ?

post #11517 of 14594
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Originally Posted by johndu13 View Post

help me ?

I normally quietly follow this thread and I think Joker and Suman has helped you. I was going to suggest VSD1 also since I have that and think it's an amazing price-to-performance IEM. But you still want help. I see from your posts from other threads that it seems you're not liking what is being suggested since you don't like VSonic.
So why not go with what you really want and get the Soundmagic e10?
post #11518 of 14594

I've narrowed my choices down to yamaha eph 100 and hifiman re400. Which one should I get? 

post #11519 of 14594
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by lisagorbin View Post
 

ljokerl, i would really like to see where vsd1 stack up in the beautifully constructed "Multi-IEM Review Table"

If you can, can you give me a rough estimate of its score on "Sound"? thanks

 

Yeah I think it's a little better than VC02 and LG Quadbeat. I would estimate at least an 8.2, maybe a bit higher.

 

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Originally Posted by Hitesh View Post
 

Earlier I had narrowed it down to MH1C, GR02 and E30

Well now I have decided to increase the budget a little and include AM-90 and C-12 in the mix. Also have excluded MH1C solely due to its design and E30 main due to low isolation (and that I have increased my budget).

 

Now I have some queries

Does AM-90 needs an amp ( as its impedance is quite high compared to others I have looked at) ?

Does AM-90 lacks in bass ? How is it compared to GR02 ? Idk why but got such impression after reading this -

 

"The sound signature of the AM-90, while slightly warm, is not unbalanced. Bass depth is decent enough – no match for dynamic-driver sets such as the id America Spark or VSonic GR99 but good for a single armature. Mid-bass impact is a hair lower than that of the A151 but control and detail are similarly good. The low end can be classified as punchy, but also not lacking in body and fullness for a BA-based earphone – seemingly a hallmark of the SR armature."

Should be at least at a level of ES18/E10

 

Also how is VSD1 compared to VC02 ? Just in case I decide to buy from lendmeurears

 

The AM-90 does not need an amp. It's actually easier to drive (slightly) than something like the VSD1 and MH1C. Bass is almost flat on the Astrotecs. If you're looking at the Bass Edition of the GR02, it's going to have a lot more bass. The VC02 and AM-90 have similar bass qty. while the others (VSD1, MH1C, GR02BE) all have more.

 

VSD1 vs VC02

VSD1 is warmer in tone, fuller, and has more bass impact. It is also more sensitive

VC02 is thinner, more analytical, brighter, less bass impact but also appears a touch quicker and more textured at the low end

 

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Originally Posted by johndu13 View Post
 

thank you 

 

you help me to detele a models

 

 

my choice are

 

soundmagic e10 

 

or vsonic vsd1 / vsd1s

 

or redgiant a00 / a04

 

For me it's the VSD1S as an all-rounder but I haven't heard anything by redgiant. 

 

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Originally Posted by justblue View Post
 

 

I just want to say that the RE-400 are very prone to equalizing. Besides I don't get how someone can call it boring, the RE-400 sounds really natural and musical - if it's boring then maybe the problem is a source or previous coloured/inaccurate IEM, not the RE-400 itself (?).

BTW |joker| thanks for your review which, after seeing this, finally encouraged me to buy the RE-400. :beerchug:

I only wish it has a mic/remote version, but it's really great to listen to any music.

 

For an example of someone who didn't like them at all, see the mess that is the comment section on the InnerFidelity review

 

I agree with you though, and the RE-400 would probably be my #1 choice in the price range if I had to pick just one earphone. 

 

To do a microphone version HiFiMan would have to give up on going balanced for good. I guess for the RE-400 it wouldn't be a problem but the RE-600 wouldn't work. 5-pole TRRRS plug :rolleyes:

 

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Originally Posted by Amitl View Post
 

look at the strain relieves of these :

http://www.amazon.com/JBL-J33-Premium-In-Ear-Headphones/dp/B009IKCFP6/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

i wonder how effective it really is at reducing microphonics.

by the way it appears, it should block all noise, just like a cable clip.

i wonder why is it such a rare thing to see then, and why something like the 1000$ Sennheiser IE800

doesn't incorporate *at least* something like this solution.

interesting!

 

It's not a novel idea but I've actually never gotten my hands on one of those. No clue if it works or not.

 

There are some manufacturers that consistently do a good job of eliminating microphonics - JVC, for example - and some that struggle. Probably comes down to whether the design team thought of cable noise as an important issue and/or was able to find a fix.

 

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Originally Posted by esteebin View Post


I normally quietly follow this thread and I think Joker and Suman has helped you. I was going to suggest VSD1 also since I have that and think it's an amazing price-to-performance IEM. But you still want help. I see from your posts from other threads that it seems you're not liking what is being suggested since you don't like VSonic.
So why not go with what you really want and get the Soundmagic e10?

 

Actually I hadn't gotten a chance to reply until now but for me the VSD1S seems like the best all-rounder (though admittedly I haven't tried anything from redgiant).

 

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Originally Posted by enyls View Post
 

I've narrowed my choices down to yamaha eph 100 and hifiman re400. Which one should I get? 

 

For flatter and more accurate sound - RE-400. For a fun, warm signature with enhanced bass, EPH-100. I like them both (see here)

post #11520 of 14594
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post
 

 

Yeah I think it's a little better than VC02 and LG Quadbeat. I would estimate at least an 8.2, maybe a bit higher.

Thank you. As always, constantly delivers :)

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