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Originally Posted by MDFMK View Post


Interesting!  Seeing as you have the JVC FXT90, how does it compare?

 

It actually sounds more detailed. It's very impressive.

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Wow! The M-DUO actually sounds more detailed than the FXT-90. There's actually micro-detail involved. @_@

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That sounds very promising!  I would have to listen myself before I considered replacing the FXT-90(which I love), but I'm intrigued now.  Based on your initial impression, it sounds like the M-DUO has deeper/fuller bass than the JVC's but more recessed in the midrange, correct?  Like a slightly more V shape?

post #10444 of 14621

Hey joker

 

Can you tell me how similar the MH1C and the R02 Silver are? I dont like the cables or the fit on the MH1c but I really like the sound. I'd love to replace them with something very comfortable.

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Originally Posted by MDFMK View Post

That sounds very promising!  I would have to listen myself before I considered replacing the FXT-90(which I love), but I'm intrigued now.  Based on your initial impression, it sounds like the M-DUO has deeper/fuller bass than the JVC's but more recessed in the midrange, correct?  Like a slightly more V shape?

 

Kinda. It's U-Shaped than V-Shaped. Although the detail retrieval is impressive.


Edited by Niyologist - 5/28/13 at 2:20pm
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Originally Posted by Amitl View Post

if i connect one of my phones (Klipsch S4, id America Spark, MEElec CW31, MEElec A161P, AKG K518)

to a usb dac (like the Fiio e10 connected to a pc) instead of straight to a smartphone,

should i notice any major difference in sq?

im sorry i just havn't realized the whole headphone amp thing yet...

i read ppl saying headphone amps are useless for IEM's...yet all these pricey headphone amps are being sold... are these only useful for not-iem phones??
 

 

Probably not with those except for the A161P. The A161P is pretty sensitive and has low, non-linear impedance, so it can be susceptible to impedance interactions if you have a source with high output impedance (for example), or just one with a lot of line noise (the average non-Apple smartphone would likely have both of these problems, for example). In that particular case you may get a noticeable improvement with almost any decent DAC. This is more because your source is not ideal in the first place and not because the A161P needs lots of power.

 

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Originally Posted by Niyologist View Post

Early impressions: The M-DUO definitely has the deep bass of the MEElec M6, but it's sooooo much clearer. It's like listening to a 2.1 and the clarity is around the same level as the GR06, with the help of the EQ/Fiio E11. With burn-in, I'm very sure it'll  easily surpass the Clarity level of the GR06. Wow, but the bass detail is great. It really doesn't mess with the mid-range that much. Still the mid-range is slightly recessed. The dynamics is leaning towards slightly above average ATM. The treble is there but not edgy at all, it's more like shimmering (On the High Quality tracks).

 

Interesting. The “M” in the name is probably telling of the signature to some extent. I would definitely expect enhanced bass. 

 

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Originally Posted by Jozurr View Post

Hey joker

 

Can you tell me how similar the MH1C and the R02 Silver are? I dont like the cables or the fit on the MH1c but I really like the sound. I'd love to replace them with something very comfortable.

 

Not too similar. The MH1C has a focus on deep bass and is otherwise pretty smooth and level. The R02 Silver has a midrange bump and quite a bit less bass, and is brighter overall. The bass on the VSonics is tighter and less prone to bleeding up into the midrange, probably in large part because there is less of it. The treble is smoother and a little more refined on the Sonys.

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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post

Interesting. The “M” in the name is probably telling of the signature to some extent. I would definitely expect enhanced bass. 

 

That's exactly the thing. It has the M-Series signature, but it's a mixture of the nature of the A161 (Enhanced Upper Midrange/Treble). It also has the M-Series Signature Bass, but far more detailed of course. :)


Edited by Niyologist - 5/28/13 at 8:10pm
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The T-400 Comply foam tips (Medium) fit like a glove with the M-DUO. Although it does enhance the bass, but the rest of the frequency is still intact.

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Top 5 best soundstage?

 

I bought myself the Sony 7550, and they're phenomenal. They're the first headphones I have found to be adequate complements to my ER4. Mostly because of their soundstage, which I think has to do with their open design. Never experienced this presentation from an IEM before.

 

I think anything more than the 7550s would be too bright for me though, so I don't think the ex1000s or ex600s will work for me. Also looking at the fx700s. Any other suggestions?

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Hello, would you please give me some advice?

 

I am looking for a natural and v shaped sounding iem. I have a pair of sm3 v2 and I am trying to make a decision to buy a fx700... I had um3x and westone 4 before. But their sounds were dry to me..

 

Should I try a pair of fx700?  

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Originally Posted by tseliottt View Post

Top 5 best soundstage?

 

I bought myself the Sony 7550, and they're phenomenal. They're the first headphones I have found to be adequate complements to my ER4. Mostly because of their soundstage, which I think has to do with their open design. Never experienced this presentation from an IEM before.

 

I think anything more than the 7550s would be too bright for me though, so I don't think the ex1000s or ex600s will work for me. Also looking at the fx700s. Any other suggestions?

 

Yeah, I would say EX600/1000/MDR-7550 and Sennheiser IE8 would be the obvious ones. The FX700 isn’t exactly small-sounding but it doesn’t quite have the sheer width of these others. Radius TWF11 / TWF21 is up there as well.

 

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Originally Posted by portnoy83 View Post

Hello, would you please give me some advice?

 

I am looking for a natural and v shaped sounding iem. I have a pair of sm3 v2 and I am trying to make a decision to buy a fx700... I had um3x and westone 4 before. But their sounds were dry to me..

 

Should I try a pair of fx700?  


Yes, v-shaped, yet natural sounds like the FX700 to me. It has pretty natural note sustainment so it shouldn't sound dry in the sense of having overly quick decay.

post #10452 of 14621

ljokerl,

 

First, thanks for the awesome resource.  Concise, accurate, evenhanded!

 

I was wondering if you could use your overall Sound Quality score for some of the "classic" full size cans such as ATH-M50, HD-650, HD-800, LCD2 and LCD3.  This would enormously helpful in comparing the 2 worlds.

 

Thanks!

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Hi Joker,

 

I had the Vsonic Gr02 Bass but it broke so I had to return it. I liked the bass on it but I found the overall sound slightly 'hollow' and slightly harsh on the treble side on certain tracks. Instead of getting a direct replacement I went for the R02 silver. I've never had mid-centric earphones before so I was just wondering does the mid over power the bass and treble at all or are they still clearly defined as well. I'm not a bass head but a for lot of the music I listen to (EDM) bass is a large componant  so I just hope the bass doesn't fade into the backround with these iems. Also, any idea when/if you'll be reviewing the VSD1s?

 

Thanks,

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Love these threads. If only I could find an IEM that is actually conforms to my ear (can't afford a custom mold)!

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Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by vitzijak View Post

ljokerl,

 

First, thanks for the awesome resource.  Concise, accurate, evenhanded!

 

I was wondering if you could use your overall Sound Quality score for some of the "classic" full size cans such as ATH-M50, HD-650, HD-800, LCD2 and LCD3.  This would enormously helpful in comparing the 2 worlds.

 

Thanks!

 

I don't really like comparing cans to IEMs so that would be tough, plus I have a lot more experience with IEMs.

 

For me IEMs are indispensable for on the go use. At home I'd rather skip full-size cans and go for speakers (sorry!). The Emotiva monitors I'm using right now sound way better than my HD580. 

 

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Originally Posted by Cunnifferous View Post

Hi Joker,

 

I had the Vsonic Gr02 Bass but it broke so I had to return it. I liked the bass on it but I found the overall sound slightly 'hollow' and slightly harsh on the treble side on certain tracks. Instead of getting a direct replacement I went for the R02 silver. I've never had mid-centric earphones before so I was just wondering does the mid over power the bass and treble at all or are they still clearly defined as well. I'm not a bass head but a for lot of the music I listen to (EDM) bass is a large componant  so I just hope the bass doesn't fade into the backround with these iems. Also, any idea when/if you'll be reviewing the VSD1s?

 

Thanks,

 

The bass and treble are definitely well-defined on the Silver but they are downright dominant on the R02 Bass Edition, so there's a very obvious difference there. The Bass Edition enhances bass whereas the Silver just tells it how it is. I prefer how the Silver does both bass and treble.

 

I don't have a VSD1 on hand. I have another VSonic model I need to review after which I'll maybe get to check out the VSD1. 

 

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Originally Posted by slpierce1988 View Post

Love these threads. If only I could find an IEM that is actually conforms to my ear (can't afford a custom mold)!


Just get something small and with a foam tip rolleyes.gif. The dB Logic EP-100 + Shure Olives will fit any ear. 

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