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Will be looking for it:popcorn:

If my VSD3S is something near 60% of an 4R I would just get the VSD5 after Vsonic release it and then save money for a entry level CIEM.

I'm a noob in this hobby but I really like my VSD3S sound signature.


 these do totally worth the price . value for money phones for sure .

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Hey Joker,

 

Pioneer finally got it right and came out with an incredibly balanced IEM here in mainland China.

 

The Pioneer SE-CL31

 

I just bought them 2 weeks ago and they sound identical to the Grado SR80.

 

I bought the light gold on black wire set.

 

Here are some pix......hope it goes on your review list!

 

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Hey Joker,

 

Pioneer finally got it right and came out with an incredibly balanced IEM here in mainland China.

 

The Pioneer SE-CL31

 

I just bought them 2 weeks ago and they sound identical to the Grado SR80.

 

How do they compare to the Ivery IS-1? :evil: 

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How do they compare to the Ivery IS-1? evil_smiley.gif  

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How do they compare to the Ivery IS-1? :evil:

 

 

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One thing is Pioneer has a great reputation with high-end audio equipment, but for some reason IEM's were never there strong point (I think), until now. I read in article here in China on how long it took them to get the SE-CL31 perfectly balanced. I personally think they succeeded. Through "taobao" they're constantly rating 5 stars ever since they were released several months. Compared to my IS-1's is a toss-up! I personally like them both, IS-1's for there life-like vocals and sub-bass and the SE-CL31's for there soundstage and crisp sound reproduction.

 

.....On another note, I have my Sidy DGS100's on the way to see how much better my collection can get.

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One thing is Pioneer has a great reputation with high-end audio equipment, but for some reason IEM's were never there strong point (I think), until now. I read in article here in China on how long it took them to get the SE-CL31 perfectly balanced. I personally think they succeeded. Through "taobao" they're constantly rating 5 stars ever since they were released several months. Compared to my IS-1's is a toss-up! I personally like them both, IS-1's for there life-like vocals and sub-bass and the SE-CL31's for there soundstage and crisp sound reproduction.

 

.....On another note, I have my Sidy DGS100's on the way to see how much better my collection can get.

Is it perfectly balanced or does it sound identical to the Grado SR80?

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Is it perfectly balanced or does it sound identical to the Grado SR80?

 

I say, both. Though the SR80 tends to edge more towards the bass side the SE-CL31's does sound identical, but does a better job controlling the bass where it never overlaps, but compliments the rest of the spectrum. You could say a cross between the SR80 and SR60, but mostly reminding me of the SR80's signature.

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I say, both. Though the SR80 tends to edge more towards the bass side the SE-CL31's does sound identical, but does a better job controlling the bass where it never overlaps, but compliments the rest of the spectrum. You could say a cross between the SR80 and SR60, but mostly reminding me of the SR80's signature.

OK, none of those strikes me as particulary balanced so I guess we just hear things really different :wink_face:

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I say, both. Though the SR80 tends to edge more towards the bass side the SE-CL31's does sound identical, but does a better job controlling the bass where it never overlaps, but compliments the rest of the spectrum. You could say a cross between the SR80 and SR60, but mostly reminding me of the SR80's signature.

 

You know that was a mistake ;) Why say identical instead of a lot like the Grado??

 

Also a bit off on the IEM's as they work with Fostex Japan as OEM for quite a few of their models and have plenty of good in-ears. The CLX60(CLX40 in Japan) that I loaned Joker to review a while back is a perfect example. They have had a bad track record with portable phones esp. on-ears. Pioneer has hybrids now and they have used armatures for a few years and had sound tuning filters way back with the old CLX9. Most are solid offerings.

 

I'll back you up as I'm sure it is a good earphone but not on the Grado thing as I haven't heard the CLX31 and it is probably better to let the Pioneer sit on it's own cause you will only get some backlash/disagreement equating one phone to another esp. an earphone to a headphone.


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Hi Joker

 

I am searching for an upgrade for my Sony MH1 with similar sound sig, but with a more precise Bass and overall sound quailty.

I like it's warmness (could be less though), smoothness and relaxed treble paired with the thick Bass.

 

Price should be under 350$. At the moment I have the FAD Heaven VI and JVX FX850 in mind.

 

Any other suggestions? Thanks for the thread!

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OK, none of those strikes me as particulary balanced so I guess we just hear things really different :wink_face:

Sorry, Pete. I meant when only comparing both.

 

Of course I know the SR80 is mostly V shaped, but with the bass on the SE-CL31's keeping great balance to the rest of the their signature it portrays to resemble more of a balanced IEM. They have a pretty engaging and addictive sound. I hope 'Joker' gets to check them into his list of next reviews.


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Hi Joker

 

I am searching for an upgrade for my Sony MH1 with similar sound sig, but with a more precise Bass and overall sound quailty.

I like it's warmness (could be less though), smoothness and relaxed treble paired with the thick Bass.

 

Price should be under 350$. At the moment I have the FAD Heaven VI and JVX FX850 in mind.

 

Any other suggestions? Thanks for the thread!

For 230$ I'd strongly suggest the ath ckr 9. You can audition them first if you can.

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I'll be getting some of the ones that were requested most over the summer out of the way soon.

 

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Hi Joker

 

I am searching for an upgrade for my Sony MH1 with similar sound sig, but with a more precise Bass and overall sound quailty.

I like it's warmness (could be less though), smoothness and relaxed treble paired with the thick Bass.

 

Price should be under 350$. At the moment I have the FAD Heaven VI and JVX FX850 in mind.

 

Any other suggestions? Thanks for the thread!

 

Can't really think of a perfect match of what you want out of the sets I have tried (no experience with the FX850 or Heaven VI). Sounds like a Brainwavz R3 or Sony MDR-7550 with the bass boosted closer to MH1C level. It seems most sets that have MH1C-quantity bass don't share its smoothness and vice versa. . 

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Hi Joker

I am searching for an upgrade for my Sony MH1 with similar sound sig, but with a more precise Bass and overall sound quailty.
I like it's warmness (could be less though), smoothness and relaxed treble paired with the thick Bass.

Price should be under 350$. At the moment I have the FAD Heaven VI and JVX FX850 in mind.

Any other suggestions? Thanks for the thread!

The FX850 has a lot of delicacy with a large and powerful bass presentation but it doesn't have relaxed treble like the MH1. Really a great IEM if used with a front vent mod to reduce bass presence IMO, but maybe not what you're looking for. Hope that helps a bit.
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