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Was wondering what you guys think about the Earsonics sm64? Would like to know how it compares to the W40 and Se535? Trying to decide on getting a pair of IEMs around this price range.

 

I personally like the SM64. See review here: http://theheadphonelist.com/headphone_review/earsonics-sm64/ . Really good if you like deep and powerful bass (it’s not a reference earphone) without veiling or loss in clarity/detail.  

 

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Originally Posted by nekromantik View Post
 

Hi Joker

 

Quick question, currently got Bassos and want to upgrade due to driver flex.

Which IEMs you think will suit electronic music for under £80?

 

Thanks

 

I haven’t tried any Zero Audio IEMs. Are the Yamaha EPH-100s in your budget? I know prices are often higher in the UK for the same gear. I really like the EPH-100 for EDM. The MA750s are good, too- they are a little slower than the EPH-100 from a bass perspective, but otherwise about as capable. 

 

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Thanks for the input! But those are scarse and i don't find any retailer nor etailer selling The Sonys in Sweden. I do find a retailer selling the TDK BA200. These are better than the 535's you say? Regarding the Shure SE535 it's nearly sold out everywhere here and i was thinking custom as an alternative. Is the 1964-V3 from 1964 Ears better than the Shure 535's? And the Westone W40 any thoughts of them? Im just after transparent neutral sound and no colouring on any range. The Shure 535, UE900, Sennheiser 8i, Etymotic Research ER-4PT, Klipsch X11i, Grado GR8 is the only ones with big availability here in Sweden.

 

Thanks in advance!

 

edit: ljokerl i just read that you didn't like the SE535 a few posts up. Are they bad?

 

I don’t mind the SE535 - it's not the IEM I’d personally buy in its price class, but if you enjoyed it I definitely wouldn't advise against it.

 

The W40 has the same sound as the W4 reviewed in this thread. I like the W40, as well as the UE900 and ER-4PT. The UE900 is very balanced except for a little dip in the upper mids. It’s a little brighter than the SE535 but that didn’t bother me. The ER4 is more analytical - brighter, less bass body, and thinner overall. The X11i and Senn IE8i are definitely not neutral-sounding so probably not a good choice.

 

The 1964-V3 is also not neutral-sounding - it's quite bassy and has an aggressive signature. Not a great SE535 upgrade. 

 

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This might be the best thread ever of all thread that ever was!!

Just reporting back that I have given many more hours on my RHA 750 IEMs. They have become everything I had hoped and more! Bass response has enhanced with burn in and the clarity is excellent across the spectrum! My only gripe in the over ear piece. I wish they were a little more rigid or perhaps "formable".

 

Glad you like them!

 

FYI, the earhooks on the MA750 can be reshaped if you think that will help you get more comfortable – just heat them up with a hair dryer and carefully adjust their shape. Once they cool off they’ll take on the new shape you give them.

 

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@joker or anyone else

 

so i got the um pro 30. But the sound signature isn't really to my liking. The bass is a bit bloated and bleeds into the lower mids, which i find is a bit too forward. the upper midrange could use a tiny bit more clarity as well.

 

Basically i'm looking for something mid centric, not shove-it-into-your-face forward with less midbass, and a bit more clarity, and no sibilance, and kind of warm. Something that sounds natural (transparent?) and on the warm side of neutral a la lcd2.

 

 

I'm guessing the shure se535 might be it, but in your review you say that it's bested by some newer offerings so im wondering what they may be. I'm guessing the sm64, since you say its still dark sounding, but can make claims to sonic balance. But I'm still unsure. My price range is still 400-500, but this time, no brand preference, though I'm leaning towards the sm64 if I can actually find someplace to buy them.(I already emailed earsonics about the vat tax)

 

Yeah, the SE535 would do it. It's a better LCD-2 match than the SM64. It's a little pricy though - IMO the TDK BA200, Sony MDR-7550, and even HiFiMan RE-400 are a better value for that type of sound, and the StageDiver SD-2 might be the holy grail if you're spending SE535 money.

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I haven’t tried any Zero Audio IEMs. Are the Yamaha EPH-100s in your budget? I know prices are often higher in the UK for the same gear. I really like the EPH-100 for EDM. The MA750s are good, too- they are a little slower than the EPH-100 from a bass perspective, but otherwise about as capable. 

 

 

Thanks :)

 

Yeah the EPH100 is out of my range sadly. Its the one IEM I know will be good as everyone agrees about that.

Have you heard the Sony H1s? 

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Hey joker. What about the sm64 compared to the 1964-v3? I'm thinking whether I should go grab customs instead.

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Originally Posted by nekromantik View Post
 

 

Thanks :)

 

Yeah the EPH100 is out of my range sadly. Its the one IEM I know will be good as everyone agrees about that.

Have you heard the Sony H1s? 

 

I have not

 

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Hey joker. What about the sm64 compared to the 1964-v3? I'm thinking whether I should go grab customs instead.

 

Different signatures - the SM64 is warmer and darker while the V3 is more v-shaped in comparison with more treble energy and sparkle. It also has more upper midrange presence (a good thing in my book) and more mid-bass presence (debatable benefit). 

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I have not

 

 

Different signatures - the SM64 is warmer and darker while the V3 is more v-shaped in comparison with more treble energy and sparkle. It also has more upper midrange presence (a good thing in my book) and more mid-bass presence (debatable benefit). 

 

What about soundstage and clarity detail though? What do you think is best if I listen to mostly indie folk / accoustic stuff, and rock.

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What about soundstage and clarity detail though? What do you think is best if I listen to mostly indie folk / accoustic stuff, and rock.

 

I personally prefer a more balanced sound with that type of music but if push came to shove the V3 would be my pick. The SM64 has a wider soundstage but the V3 has better depth/layering. Clarity is good on both but IMO the V3 has a slight upper hand in detail because its upper mids are more filled-in. 

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Hi! I was browsing the hot threads on Head-fi and saw a Xiaomi piston thread up around the #2 mark. I'm new to this site and don't know how this works, so is it just an FOTM? I can't find any reviews on it from you or ClieOS.

 

(Same goes with the MartinLogan Mikros 90! The price looks so irresistible... and everyone on that thread says such good things about it... ;  - ;)

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If is wrong place to put this message - forgive me, I am new. I have a question.It is a place somewhere where I can find a graph of the frequency response of Brainwavz M1? I have not found yet such a graph. 


Edited by Miedzcu - 3/5/14 at 9:52am
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Hi Joker

 

Just curious atm, which of the two 1964 ears the v6 and the v3 would you use for rock and metal straight out of an ipod classic?  Same question for the stagedivers 2 and 3.

 

Thanks

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Hi! I was browsing the hot threads on Head-fi and saw a Xiaomi piston thread up around the #2 mark. I'm new to this site and don't know how this works, so is it just an FOTM? I can't find any reviews on it from you or ClieOS.

 

(Same goes with the MartinLogan Mikros 90! The price looks so irresistible... and everyone on that thread says such good things about it... ;  - ;)

 

They’re pretty new and I haven’t personally tried them. I tried to get in touch with Xiaomi but I don’t speak Chinese so there’s a language barrier there.

 

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If is wrong place to put this message - forgive me, I am new. I have a question.It is a place somewhere where I can find a graph of the frequency response of Brainwavz M1? I have not found yet such a graph. 

 

I don’t think you’ll find one – they’re an old model and not too popular these days. The only place that *might* have one is goldenears but I’m not sure they’ve done any Brainwavz graphs. 

 

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Originally Posted by davidcotton View Post
 

Hi Joker

 

Just curious atm, which of the two 1964 ears the v6 and the v3 would you use for rock and metal straight out of an ipod classic?  Same question for the stagedivers 2 and 3.

 

Thanks

 

The 1964-V6 (more balanced sound compared to the V3) and the StageDiver SD-2 (same reason).

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I personally prefer a more balanced sound with that type of music but if push came to shove the V3 would be my pick. The SM64 has a wider soundstage but the V3 has better depth/layering. Clarity is good on both but IMO the V3 has a slight upper hand in detail because its upper mids are more filled-in. 

how about the Aurisonics ASG-2 vs the SM64?

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If I took an acrylic IEM, say a JH13 Pro and shook it violently, would the sound tubes inside or anything break (assuming they were not connected to cables)?
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Upgrading from RE-400 ... shure SE535 LTD or InEar StageDriver 2? other?

 

This is a question for ljokerl or anyone familiar with the IEMs mentioned below, if you are kind to help me out on deciding the upgrade path to take.

 

I have the RE-400 and also the Sony XBA-3i and I have been enjoying them for 1.5 years, but I am ready to upgrade to the next EIM with an clear improvement in SQ. Budget in the range of $400-$600 but I could go all the day to $1200. I am looking for a well balanced IEM that improves the sound signature of the RE-400 in the following areas (see below). Please note that most of te use will be on-the-go playing with iPhone 5 or future iphone 6 when I travel (don't link to carry amps, etc)

 

1.- Improved soundstage: I like out of your head soundstage

2.- Improved instrument separation and imaging: I love when the music has nuance to separate the instruments in 3D

3.- Bigger bass slam, I don't necessarily need deep sub-bass but I love bass texture and impact without affecting other frequencies of the general tonality of the headphone

4.- Extended highs, a bit more extended than the RE-400 but without going into the harsh and silvant highs, so needs to control the HF

5.- Rapid dynamics (good PRaT): i listen to moderm music, mostly rock, indie, electronic, vocals, etc, so I need an IEM that can keep the fast pace as needed.

 

Regarding the budget, I may consider even high end EIMs (e.g. Shure SE846) if everyone agrees that it is is a class clearly superior but I would rather try to be in the $400-$600 price range if feasible.

 

I tested the Shure SE-535 Limited Edition (Red) and I liked it but it fails to have great highs. Still it is enjoyable juts feels overpriced for $550 in the USA.  Give the review from ljokerl on the InEar StageDriver 2, it seems that this IEM would be improving the RE in all the areas mentioned, but as I cannot test it, it is hard to make a decision.

 

BTW, yesterday I had the chance to test the high end Shure SE846 and the AKG K3003i. I was utterly impressed by the Shure SE846 (with the white/bright filter on to enhance HF) more "real" sound that the AKG.  If it would be more comfortable I would have bought it on the spot. I was so impressed. The bass, kids are perfection, extremely well balanced EIM and very musical, more so that the AKG K3003i. 

 

Thanks much for your advise.


Edited by MrGuzmanWhite - 3/6/14 at 8:10am
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Upgrading from RE-400 ... shure SE535 LTD or InEar StageDriver 2? other?

 

This is a question for ljokerl or anyone familiar with the IEMs mentioned below, if you are kind to help me out on deciding the upgrade path to take.

 

I have the RE-400 and also the Sony XBA-3i and I have been enjoying them for 1.5 years, but I am ready to upgrade to the next EIM with an clear improvement in SQ. Budget in the range of $400-$600 but I could go all the day to $1200. I am looking for a well balanced IEM that improves the sound signature of the RE-400 in the following areas (see below). Please note that most of te use will be on-the-go playing with iPhone 5 or future iphone 6 when I travel (don't link to carry amps, etc)

 

1.- Improved soundstage: I like out of your head soundstage

2.- Improved instrument separation and imaging: I love when the music has nuance to separate the instruments in 3D

3.- Bigger bass slam, I don't necessarily need deep sub-bass but I love bass texture and impact without affecting other frequencies of the general tonality of the headphone

4.- Extended highs, a bit more extended than the RE-400 but without going into the harsh and silvant highs, so needs to control the HF

5.- Rapid dynamics (good PRaT): i listen to moderm music, mostly rock, indie, electronic, vocals, etc, so I need an IEM that can keep the fast pace as needed.

 

Regarding the budget, I may consider even high end EIMs (e.g. Shure SE846) if everyone agrees that it is is a class clearly superior but I would rather try to be in the $400-$600 price range if feasible.

 

I tested the Shure SE-535 Limited Edition (Red) and I liked it but it fails to have great highs. Still it is enjoyable juts feels overpriced for $550 in the USA.  Give the review from ljokerl on the InEar StageDriver 2, it seems that this IEM would be improving the RE in all the areas mentioned, but as I cannot test it, it is hard to make a decision.

 

BTW, yesterday I had the chance to test the high end Shure SE846 and the AKG K3003i. I was utterly impressed by the Shure SE846 (with the white/bright filter on to enhance HF) more "real" sound that the AKG.  If it would be more comfortable I would have bought it on the spot. I was so impressed. The bass, kids are perfection, extremely well balanced EIM and very musical, more so that the AKG K3003i. 

 

Thanks much for your advise.


    that was exactly in my mind , i havent heard this but , yes , se846 as far as i know has a lower hunger for power with close to 15ohm , and imo its one of the best universal available in the market .

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They’re pretty new and I haven’t personally tried them. I tried to get in touch with Xiaomi but I don’t speak Chinese so there’s a language barrier there.

 

Maybe you should buy it from your own money! :smile:

 

Which was the last IEM that you purchased, so it wasn't sent by the manufacturer or distributer?

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