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post #12556 of 14195

To the people that have custom IEM, I have some questions:

 

1) How much isolation do you get with a proper fit? Are you able to clearly hear people next to you talk? If you walk around on the street, are the noises all very dim or just slightly dim? 

 

I tried my JH13 for a week and it seems the isolation varies greatly between the type of sound that's around me. If someone stands in front of me and talk to me, I can hear them clearly. Sometimes even standing several feet away I can hear people's voice clearly. But sounds like plane engine are greatly reduced.

 

2) Is it normal to have the faceplate of the CIEM not vertical to the ground after I insert it?

 

The left size of my JH13 has the faceplate at an angle after I insert it. The fit is good I suppose, not pushing against anything but I'm always reminded of their presence so it's not ultra comfortable. The angled insertion makes it quite hard to take the left side out since I can't just twist it.

 

As far as the sound of the JH13, I like it and a pretty good improvement from what I had. I just went to a conference where they had some really nice subwoofer putting out massive bass, and the sound of the the stick hitting the drum from the speaker is so real I don't think any IEM can even touch it. Every time the bass hit, I felt like I was the drum with both my ear drum and the air in my lungs vibrating.

post #12557 of 14195
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Originally Posted by DestinyBear View Post
 

The Miles Davis Trumpets as well as the Monster Turbine Pro Gold are on sale at Visions Electronics for 98$ and I was considering getting a pair.

 

Is it a great value at this price. The Coppers are sold out, but they might restock. I was wondering for that price which model I should go with. Coming from the SE215, i expect something that has about the same bass quantity, but slightly tighter. I also prefer something that has more soundstage. I mostly listen to classical and hiphop and I would really appreciate any kind of feedback on which of the 3 models to pick. I'm leaning more towards the Trumpets but I'm worried that the sound might be too neutral, avoiding extremes as you mentioned in your review. 

 

Could you recommend one that has those but sounds just as "fun" as the se215

 

These days I don't recommend the Monster IEMs at retail price at all. $98 makes them a pretty decent value, though. I think all Monster earphones are fun-sounding to an extent but the Trumpet is my overall favorite - it's brighter than the SE215 but that's not a bad thing in my book. Bass is thumpy, definitely sufficient for me. Maybe a touch less deep than the SE215 but not hugely so.  

 

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Originally Posted by godlyatheist View Post
 

To the people that have custom IEM, I have some questions:

 

1) How much isolation do you get with a proper fit? Are you able to clearly hear people next to you talk? If you walk around on the street, are the noises all very dim or just slightly dim? 

 

I tried my JH13 for a week and it seems the isolation varies greatly between the type of sound that's around me. If someone stands in front of me and talk to me, I can hear them clearly. Sometimes even standing several feet away I can hear people's voice clearly. But sounds like plane engine are greatly reduced.

 

2) Is it normal to have the faceplate of the CIEM not vertical to the ground after I insert it?

 

The left size of my JH13 has the faceplate at an angle after I insert it. The fit is good I suppose, not pushing against anything but I'm always reminded of their presence so it's not ultra comfortable. The angled insertion makes it quite hard to take the left side out since I can't just twist it.

 

As far as the sound of the JH13, I like it and a pretty good improvement from what I had. I just went to a conference where they had some really nice subwoofer putting out massive bass, and the sound of the the stick hitting the drum from the speaker is so real I don't think any IEM can even touch it. Every time the bass hit, I felt like I was the drum with both my ear drum and the air in my lungs vibrating.

 

Careful with the lungs there, might have earphone naysayers coming up with new health risks of IEM use...

 

Isolation really depends on how tight the molds are in your ears and how far they extend into your ear canal. Most of my customs isolate about as much as well-isolating universals. If you don't have music playing you should hear most of the sounds around you, albeit at a somewhat reduced volume. The reduction does vary with type of noise.

 

Not sure about the faceplates - I don't look at myself wearing my customs much but as far as I can tell they're mostly symmetric. I can do the rotation pretty easily to insert/remove except with silicone sets. Everyone's ears are different, though.

post #12558 of 14195
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post
 

 

I haven't tried the Noble universals. The Noble 4S is IMO more accurate than the SD-2 - brighter and more energetic. It's a lot more Etymotic-like than the SD-2 and also has advantages in clarity, resolution, imaging, etc. The SD-2 has a slight advantage in bass depth but that's about it. But again, this is compared to the $999 Noble 4S and I'm not sure how that compares to the universal version. 

 

I see, thanks. How does the sd-2 stack up to the ck100 which is the main iem i'm using now.

post #12559 of 14195

Just out of curiosity joker how many IEMs do you currently own?

post #12560 of 14195

I'm actually really digging the GR07-BE too, it's more serious sounding, more true to the original sound, and the bass IMO is perfect not muddy at all and very full. I tried using the foam tips and it works better than any other tips (I think my ears can only take foam tips). Because of the longer nozzle it fits into my ear canal easier than the W3 (which has a tubby body preventing further insertion). The isolation is actually much better than the gel tips with the foam tips, I would say very close to W3's levels (4.5/5), better than the S4's (3.5/5), maybe a 4/5 with the foam tips. It plays perfectly with my Magni, no noise floor at all. I'm beginning to understand what's all the fuss surrounding the GR07 is about. I can't stop appreciating how well the cable is made, the material feels very high end and the red/silver stripes has a good taste.


Edited by Solarium - 1/3/14 at 12:26pm
post #12561 of 14195
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Originally Posted by Love Music View Post
 

I see, thanks. How does the sd-2 stack up to the ck100 which is the main iem i'm using now.

 

Very different signature - the CK100 rolls off in the bass region and has pretty bright "audio-technica" treble, as well as forward mids. The SD-2 has extended bass, the mids are not at all forward, and the treble is a little relaxed.

 

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Just out of curiosity joker how many IEMs do you currently own?


About 120

post #12562 of 14195
Thread Starter 

Forgot to mention - my review of the Onkyo IE-HF300 IEMs is now up over at InnerFidelity, along with measurements of the same: http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/onkyo-ie-hf300s-and-ie-fc300-ear-headphones 

post #12563 of 14195
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post
 

Forgot to mention - my review of the Onkyo IE-HF300 IEMs is now up over at InnerFidelity, along with measurements of the same: http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/onkyo-ie-hf300s-and-ie-fc300-ear-headphones 

Considering the Fidelio S2 is going for 94$ would you prefer the Onkyos at the same price range? The fidelios are less "fun" I presume?

post #12564 of 14195
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post
 

 

Very different signature - the CK100 rolls off in the bass region and has pretty bright "audio-technica" treble, as well as forward mids. The SD-2 has extended bass, the mids are not at all forward, and the treble is a little relaxed.

 

Thanks. How much darker is the treble of the SD-2 compared to the CK100?  I've kind of got accustomed to that sort of treble energy.   

post #12565 of 14195

hi joker

recently i listened to Brainwavz B2, wow, the detail is very good, but the clarity that make me like it very very much.

but i don't buy it because the bass quantity is nowhere to find and very unsufficient for me.

compare to vc1000, do you thing vc1000 will have the detail and especially the clarity of B2?

and more important, do it has more bass quantity and impact than B2?


Edited by dezane222 - 1/4/14 at 2:27am
post #12566 of 14195

can i add r-50 and gr01 in the list

thanks :)

post #12567 of 14195
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by getclikinagas View Post
 

Considering the Fidelio S2 is going for 94$ would you prefer the Onkyos at the same price range? The fidelios are less "fun" I presume?

 

No; yes. The Onkyos have a few things going for them but they are not at the level of the Philips or the RE-400 or the GR07 when it comes to fidelity. They're more competition for the RBH EP1 I reviewed the other day - fun and consumer-friendly, but with room to grow on the fidelity side. Best thing about them is probably the presentation, which is spacious, open, and airy. They can easily give the GR07 or Fidelio S2 a run for the money there.

 

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Originally Posted by Love Music View Post
 

Thanks. How much darker is the treble of the SD-2 compared to the CK100?  I've kind of got accustomed to that sort of treble energy.   

 

Don't know how to quantify it really other than to say it's noticeably darker. 

 
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Originally Posted by dezane222 View Post
 

can i add r-50 and gr01 in the list

thanks :)

 

All of these earphones you're looking at have similar bass quantity. The GR01 is the best of the bunch but there's a very good chance it still won't have enough bass for you - it only has a few dB on the B2. If you found the B2 to have no bass you might be better off with a hybrid design like the T-Peos H-100 or Dunu DN-1000.

post #12568 of 14195
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Originally Posted by dezane222 View Post
 

hi joker

recently i listened to Brainwavz B2, wow, the detail is very good, but the clarity that make me like it very very much.

but i don't buy it because the bass quantity is nowhere to find and very unsufficient for me.

compare to vc1000, do you thing vc1000 will have the detail and especially the clarity of B2?

and more important, do it has more bass quantity and impact than B2?

You can add Ortofon e-Q5 in your list. It has more bass than B2 but treble is clearer and has more presence on B2. It will be a though decision for you.

post #12569 of 14195

Hi.

 I'm looking to get a new pair of dynamic driver IEMs. I'm looking to spend ~$50-100 and am hoping to find something that has the roughly same sound as my Phonak PFE 111's (grey filter. Although I'd be happier if Phonak made a dark grey one). Right now I'm looking towards the Audio-Technica IM50 or the Vsonic VSD3 when they get released. I'll be primarily listening on my Fiio X3 so I need something that'll play well with it's warm sig. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Cheers.

post #12570 of 14195
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Originally Posted by Mr Trev View Post
 

Hi.

 I'm looking to get a new pair of dynamic driver IEMs. I'm looking to spend ~$50-100 and am hoping to find something that has the roughly same sound as my Phonak PFE 111's (grey filter. Although I'd be happier if Phonak made a dark grey one). Right now I'm looking towards the Audio-Technica IM50 or the Vsonic VSD3 when they get released. I'll be primarily listening on my Fiio X3 so I need something that'll play well with it's warm sig. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Cheers.

 

The Phonaks are BA-based and are still very competitive, especially if you're only looking at dynamic earphones with a similar sound signature. Can't comment on the IM50 or VSD3, though. 

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