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post #7201 of 14059

Great post! This makes it easier yet harder (more info haha) to choose a good heaphones now.

post #7202 of 14059
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Originally Posted by olear View Post

Which would you choose between EX1000 and W4?

Thank you.

 

Personally? The EX1000 - it suits my preferences better and is a bit more interesting (in terms of how it fits into my collection) than the W4.

 

 

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Originally Posted by impoki02 View Post

Thanks ljokerl for the great review!! It's explicit, and it helps me know each product clearly and efficiently.

 

You're welcome beerchug.gif

 

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Originally Posted by petralian View Post

Great post! This makes it easier yet harder (more info haha) to choose a good heaphones now.

 

Thanks, glad it's useful. The purpose of the thread was to help IEM buyers make educated decisions. Never intended to replace the hours of research you have to do when picking out a product wink.gif

post #7203 of 14059
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Originally Posted by mondrin View Post

As luck would have it, the one pair with the shortest return period arrived first (A161p).  I can't believe it arrived in only 2 days.  I've run it for about 2 days now but couldn't help listening to them right out of the box.  I'm a newbie to IEM's so I need to work with the tips to find one that seals well for both ears.  Even so, I was very impressed with the clear reference quality of these compared to the Klipsch S4 my wife has.  The top end is clear with far less sibilance than the S4's.  The mids are great and the bass does have good extension.  I'm concerned with overall bass levels, but will hold off on that item until I work with the tips for a better seal.  I won't get much burn in time on the other two when they arrive but hope I can do a decent comparison before my 7 day period on the A161p expires.  I'll post my results early next week.

The RE-ZERO's arrived yesterday.  I couldn't help but take a quick listen and can already tell they are fairly different from the A161p (guessing a lot of that is the dynamic vs BA).  Hopefully the Yamaha's will show up today and after a bit of a break in for each I can what I've got.

post #7204 of 14059

Hi ljokerl, could you do a quick compare of the FXT90 vs. the HiSoundAudio Crystal and the MTPC, including the treble and the aggressiveness of each?  Thanks!

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Joker, what qualitative differences in sound should I expect from a sufficent burn in period for your typical dynaimc and BA IEM's?  I've heard the BA's don't require as much burn in as dynamics.  I've got all three of my contenders now (A161p, RE-ZERO and EPH-100).  I'm concerned by the sibilance of the A161p and the slightly overwhelming bass of the EPH-100.  Not sure either will change with enough time.  Gut feel says I'll end up wanting something between the RE-ZERO nad EPH-100, or an RE-ZERO with a bit more bass or an EPH-100 with a big less.  I will withhold final opinion until I've sat down with them after at last a few days break in and do a closer evaluation, but thought I'd ask what differences I may hear.

post #7206 of 14059
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Originally Posted by mondrin View Post

The RE-ZERO's arrived yesterday.  I couldn't help but take a quick listen and can already tell they are fairly different from the A161p (guessing a lot of that is the dynamic vs BA).  Hopefully the Yamaha's will show up today and after a bit of a break in for each I can what I've got.

 

You should have a good time comparing the three. Balance-wise the A161P should fall somewhere between the Yamahas and HiFiMan but it's armature-based so it will still differ from both.

 

 

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Originally Posted by nyonya View Post

Hi ljokerl, could you do a quick compare of the FXT90 vs. the HiSoundAudio Crystal and the MTPC, including the treble and the aggressiveness of each?  Thanks!

 

MTPC will have the most bass, followed by the FXT90 and then the Crystal. Crystal has leanest response - the other two are more fleshed out. It also has the most recessed mids - the FXT90 has upfront mids and the MTPC isn't too far behind. Treble-wise the MTPC is probably the smoothest and the FXT90 the most sparkly and energetic, with the HiSounds not far behind. This is going off memory for the MTPC since I haven't heard them in quite some time. 

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by mondrin View Post

Joker, what qualitative differences in sound should I expect from a sufficent burn in period for your typical dynaimc and BA IEM's?  I've heard the BA's don't require as much burn in as dynamics.  I've got all three of my contenders now (A161p, RE-ZERO and EPH-100).  I'm concerned by the sibilance of the A161p and the slightly overwhelming bass of the EPH-100.  Not sure either will change with enough time.  Gut feel says I'll end up wanting something between the RE-ZERO nad EPH-100, or an RE-ZERO with a bit more bass or an EPH-100 with a big less.  I will withhold final opinion until I've sat down with them after at last a few days break in and do a closer evaluation, but thought I'd ask what differences I may hear.

 

For the A161 I wouldn't expect any change. Sibilance probably means you're not getting a very good seal - I don't much like single-flanges on those but the bi-flanges and triples don't really give me much sibilance. I never got to test the EPH-100 pre-burn-in (it was a loan) so you'll have to check on that in the EPH-100 thread. The EPH-100 will remain pretty bassy compared to the RE0 or A161. 

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Joker: Your SE-3 kind of parallels my own SE-5 experience, with the exception of bass sluggishness and laid back sound. Bass weight is a bit more than GR07 (w/ the new MEElec tips, thanks again), but in a good way - low bass and subbass, it's also far more solid, tangible and slightly faster. I think this is the only armature that I can say beats best dynamic drivers in bass quality. Not a tinge warmer than "modernized" GR07, zero sibilance. Sound is far more intimate.

 

It's noticeably brighter than GR07 but actually due to the infinite extension, like RE272, but better still. Detailing and soundstaging is not comparable in any way. As I've said, nanodetail and pinpoint perfect imaging. Distance is very similar to GR07's.

 

My own pair is being refitted using new impressions. It seems that the old ones were inaccurate, which caused some seal and major comfort problems.


Edited by AstralStorm - 6/8/12 at 9:47pm
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Your SE5 has more treble and bass than the GR07?  That worries me a bit.  Starting to sound U shaped....

 

Also starting to remind me of the different impressions of the ES5.

post #7209 of 14059

how about AKG K3003 vs Fitear To Go 334 :D , can u give me some impression :D


Edited by cutieboy1428 - 6/9/12 at 12:41am
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Originally Posted by AstralStorm View Post

Joker: Your SE-3 kind of parallels my own SE-5 experience, with the exception of bass sluggishness and laid back sound. Bass weight is a bit more than GR07 (w/ the new MEElec tips, thanks again), but in a good way - low bass and subbass, it's also far more solid, tangible and slightly faster. I think this is the only armature that I can say beats best dynamic drivers in bass quality. Not a tinge warmer than "modernized" GR07, zero sibilance. Sound is far more intimate.

 

It's noticeably brighter than GR07 but actually due to the infinite extension, like RE272, but better still. Detailing and soundstaging is not comparable in any way. As I've said, nanodetail and pinpoint perfect imaging. Distance is very similar to GR07's.

 

My own pair is being refitted using new impressions. It seems that the old ones were inaccurate, which caused some seal and major comfort problems.

 

It seems that bass control/resolution and treble extension are two things that would be design targets when adding two more crossovers to the 3-way.

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how about AKG K3003 vs Fitear To Go 334 :D , can u give me some impression :D

 

They don't really sound anything alike. The MH334 has more controlled bass, more forward & transparent mids, slightly better clarity, smoother treble, and darker tone. The K3003 is bassier but also more boomy, has less even bass-midrange balance, and is less smooth up through the treble (and quite a bit brighter except with the bass filter).

post #7211 of 14059

is the GR06 worth the double price from the GR99 ?

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i think the gr06 worth the price , cuz sound quality dont multiply , a turbile pro gold is not 4 times better then a gr06 , but is priced 4 times more .
 

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Does anyone know of any IEMs that sound similar to the GR07, however is worn straight down? not a fan of the over-the-ear design at all.

 

Also if possible, maybe a bit bassier like the Sennheiser CX300s? 

 

I was looking at the Vsonic GR01 and Klipsch X10i, however I'm not sure how either sound, maybe leaning towards the X10i although people say it doesn't sound as good as the GR07/GR01 however has more bass despite costing a lot more, and the GR01 doesn't have much bass. 

 

Open to suggestions, any advice peoples?

post #7214 of 14059

why you are not looking at the triple fi from ultimate ears ? what happens when you tend to go up in the tree , it leans towards clarity , speed and accuracy , so the bass amount goes down , it dont boom , dont hit too hard cuz that affacts speed . triple fi dose good with 3 driver .
 

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oh oh i forgot , bass like cx 300 ? monster , yes , yes , they got ample bass , try the turbine pros , like copper or gold .

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