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Multi-IEM Review - 352 IEMs compared (Pump Audio Earphones added 04/03/16 p. 1106)
May 2, 2010 at 3:59 AM Post #211 of 16,931
i haven't actually used the custom 3s, but if the cable is the same as the s4's, then yeah, it sucks. i thought it was passable when i used them, but the ck10 cable is so far ahead of it, its not even funny how they can make such a crappy cable, let alone put it on an expensive iem.
 
May 2, 2010 at 5:44 AM Post #212 of 16,931
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hm has the SQ rating for the RE0 and e-q7 changed? i remember the e-q7 being 10/10 and the RE0 being 9.5/10.

just throwing a thought out there, but maybe when you change ratings, document it and give a reason as to why it changed. it may be helpful for people who are using the review as a guideline
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The RE0 rating changed back when I added the e-Q7. Most ratings did. It's a relative scale and is meant to be comparative (in terms of 1 IEM vs another) rather than absolute. Rawrster is right - as I hear more IEMs I slot them in where I think they belong, which moves things around on occasion. I also use a second chart to approximate SQ scores and those get scaled differently as I add more IEMs.

The e-Q7 was always between a 9.5 and 10.0 but only today did I decide to add quarter-point gradients. It's a work in progress
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Originally Posted by germanturkey /img/forum/go_quote.gif
i haven't actually used the custom 3s, but if the cable is the same as the s4's, then yeah, it sucks. i thought it was passable when i used them, but the ck10 cable is so far ahead of it, its not even funny how they can make such a crappy cable, let alone put it on an expensive iem.


No, different cable. The S4 cable is very soft and flexible, just extremely thin and plasticky. The Custom 1/2/3 cord is nylon-wrapped and not nearly as flexible or soft. It's strong but the nylon weave kinks a lot when the cable is bent, often permanently. Very frustrating IMO.
 
May 2, 2010 at 6:26 AM Post #213 of 16,931
Could you tell me what aspects of R03 are lacking compared to Monster Turbine and Cyclone PR1 Pro, ie what makes up the 0.25 difference.

Thanks
 
May 2, 2010 at 7:01 AM Post #214 of 16,931
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Could you tell me what aspects of R03 are lacking compared to Monster Turbine and Cyclone PR1 Pro, ie what makes up the 0.25 difference.

Thanks


The Cyclone has a very different signature that's hard to compare to the R03 but I listened to them back to back and felt that the PR1 Pro is technically superior. The Cyclone beats the R03 slightly in detail and clarity, has a more neutral tone, better top-end extension, and flatter bass. The PR1 also has more width to its sound than the R03. It's a far more analytical headphone but the large soundstage keeps it enjoyable and involving. On the other hand the R03 is smoother and warmer, with thicker-sounding vocals and more laid-back treble. It's a more instantly likeable and more forgiving signature.

The MTPG is similar to the R03 in balance but had more impressive sub-bass and less mid-range coloration than the R03. Not a huge difference and definitely no justification for the $180 MSRP, but it's there.
 
May 3, 2010 at 12:51 AM Post #220 of 16,931
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Hey joker, how would the TF10s and some of the more generic universal iems compare on this list? Thanks


I don't know why the TF10 is more generic than the ones on the list but the TF10 would be around a 9.5 in SQ. I have not used mine in a while as I (really) dislike the fit and they are last in line for review since there are so many posts on them out there already.

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joker - pardon me if this has already been asked - but, did fischer send you any of their IEMs for review?


No, I have not received anything from Fischer. I don't normally go out of my way to contact manufacturers but I did contact Fischer back when ClieOS first reviewed the Eterna. However, they wouldn't even sell me a set back then.

@bcpk: huh?
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May 3, 2010 at 1:22 AM Post #222 of 16,931
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I was supposed to lend you Eternas for review, remember? I gave them back >_>


hahahaha.
instead of posting a "oh sh-", you should've done a "doh! *slaps forehead."
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May 3, 2010 at 3:02 AM Post #223 of 16,931
Heh and here I thought TheWuss was onto something when I saw bcpk's respond :T I'm sure eventually someone will let you borrow some fischer audio iem's unless of course you already bought some.
 
May 3, 2010 at 3:54 AM Post #224 of 16,931
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I was supposed to lend you Eternas for review, remember? I gave them back >_>


Ah, that's quite alright. Shipping a $60 IEM 1/3 of the way around the world for a loan seems a bit excessive anyway. I'm sure I'll get my hands on them eventually if they stay popular.

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Heh and here I thought TheWuss was onto something when I saw bcpk's respond :T I'm sure eventually someone will let you borrow some fischer audio iem's unless of course you already bought some.


Nope, I've throttled back my buying as my collection has really grown out of control and I'm having trouble selling off the stuff I did buy.
 
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