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post #14056 of 14123
Hey guys, im new here and im interested in buying either the philips she3580/3590 or the monoprice 8320

I listen to a lot of EDM/ Progressive House etc, so i like a lot of bass in my music, does the philips she3580/3590 have a good bass and a nice over clear sound? And does it have a wider soundstage than the monoprice?

Im also open to suggestions
post #14057 of 14123

In that price range, I really like the 3590 for EDM, but I'm sure Joker can recommend you even more good options in that price bracket. 

post #14058 of 14123
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Originally Posted by sergiuo View Post
 

Hey guys,

Been on the market for some new IEMs for EDM music, mainly dnb, tech-house, psy, techno. I've made my research and I've narrowed down the list to Yamaha EPH-100 , shure se215, beyerdinamic DX 160ie and rha ma750. Maybe there are better options, sadly these are the only ones for which I could find recommendations for edm music. Perhaps you could help me choose one of these, not really sure which one would deliver the best sound. Thanks

Everybody seems to really enjoy the EPH-100s for EDM and the like. I had them for awhile, but sold them to my dad. The isolation is fantastic, and he uses them for mowing under over-the-ear mowing headphones. He EQs the EPH-100 like crazy though in the treble cause he is a bit of a treblehead... I didn't like the fit, but I'm in a small percentage on that I think. They were also too bassy for my taste which I wouldn't have guessed, and the scooped out highs that made them too smooth and un-bright were not for me. And my ears are somewhat treble sensitive oddly... 

 

As far as I know(though I haven't heard the other three) the RHAs and Yamahas are techinically superior to the other two in the detail and clarity. The mids are more full & lush with the EPH-100 and more backseat on the MA750 supposedly. The RHAs are supposed to have more sparkle in the lower treble compared to the Yamahas.

 

I really REALLY like and recommend the Zero Audio Carbo Tenore though I know people have had issues with them. I haven't at all thankfully! And for reference I mainly listen to EDM type music. They are just plain awesome in my opinion. Really smooth and full across the FR. Also cheaper than the EPHs and considerably more than the MA750s if that any consideration.

post #14059 of 14123
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Originally Posted by Xtron2112 View Post

Between the MA750 and the DN1000, which one is more durable? I want to reduce the risk of them breaking like my vsd1.

 

Hard to say for sure but I'd give the nod to the MA750.

 

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Originally Posted by sergiuo View Post
 

Hey guys,

Been on the market for some new IEMs for EDM music, mainly dnb, tech-house, psy, techno. I've made my research and I've narrowed down the list to Yamaha EPH-100 , shure se215, beyerdinamic DX 160ie and rha ma750. Maybe there are better options, sadly these are the only ones for which I could find recommendations for edm music. Perhaps you could help me choose one of these, not really sure which one would deliver the best sound. Thanks

 

I've only heard the DTX160iE at a show briefly, but my current pick for EDM is definitely the EPH-100. 

 

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Originally Posted by YoloSwaggins View Post

Hey guys, im new here and im interested in buying either the philips she3580/3590 or the monoprice 8320

I listen to a lot of EDM/ Progressive House etc, so i like a lot of bass in my music, does the philips she3580/3590 have a good bass and a nice over clear sound? And does it have a wider soundstage than the monoprice?

Im also open to suggestions

 

I would pick the Philips as well. They don't have the soundstage of the Monoprices but the signature will work better for EDM.

post #14060 of 14123

Joker posted the review of the Xiaomi Piston 2.0.  8.1 for sound for only $25!  The next one with 8.1 is VSonic VC02 at $49.

 

http://theheadphonelist.com/headphone_review/xiaomi-piston-2/

post #14061 of 14123

Wow, 8.1.

I tried them myself and found them to be too U shaped. Mids were totally recessed to my ears.

The highs of the Pistons are natural and the best I've heard in a long time. The bass was to mid-bassy for me.

 

I wouldn't give them a 8.1, but then again, I haven't heard anything near a percentage of iems joker has. He is the sole reason I started this hobby anyway. 

 

BTW I tried the Ivery IS1 clearhead was hyping a while ago. There nothing special. Fine for the price paid, but far to bassy and veiled over the rest of the spectrum.


Edited by Pastapipo - 7/14/14 at 11:37am
post #14062 of 14123

I'm not really surprised by that Piston score. I expected it to score somewhere circa mh1 though to put things into perspective my first pairs of mh1c cost me $15 and the mh1 I got months into the hype still cost me like $25, so I can't just say "WOW, I have never heard anything like this for only 20 bucks".

Of course, the Piston's hype got a little bit out of hand with stuff like being the best sub-$100 iem, being better than all vsonics and that probably raised some expectations a bit too high. 

I personally wasn't too impressed but I acknowledged that I can imagine someone liking them a lot if that's the type of sound he's looking for. My main issue with them was the bass. which is exactly the opposite of what I like - slow, lacking control and proper attack.

post #14063 of 14123
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Pastapipo View Post
 

Wow, 8.1.

I tried them myself and found them to be too U shaped. Mids were totally recessed to my ears.

The highs of the Pistons are natural and the best I've heard in a long time. The bass was to mid-bassy for me.

 

All true for the mids and bass, but still so very far ahead of average among sub-$50 IEMs (except maybe the bass bloat)

 

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Originally Posted by kova4a View Post
 

I'm not really surprised by that Piston score. I expected it to score somewhere circa mh1 though to put things into perspective my first pairs of mh1c cost me $15 and the mh1 I got months into the hype still cost me like $25, so I can't just say "WOW, I have never heard anything like this for only 20 bucks".

Of course, the Piston's hype got a little bit out of hand with stuff like being the best sub-$100 iem, being better than all vsonics and that probably raised some expectations a bit too high. 

I personally wasn't too impressed but I acknowledged that I can imagine someone liking them a lot if that's the type of sound he's looking for. My main issue with them was the bass. which is exactly the opposite of what I like - slow, lacking control and proper attack.

 

When writing the review that was pretty much my line of thinking - if only the sub-$25 MH1C supply on ebay hadn't run out, I would have been less impressed with the Pistons. I still prefer the MH1C, personally, but I think the Piston has more of a "wow" factor for the average listener.

 

BTW, the DN-2000 comparison was actually prompted by someone sending a PM asking whether the Piston is better :o

post #14064 of 14123
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post

 

When writing the review that was pretty much my line of thinking - if only the sub-$25 MH1C supply on ebay hadn't run out, I would have been less impressed with the Pistons. I still prefer the MH1C, personally, but I think the Piston has more of a "wow" factor for the average listener.

 

BTW, the DN-2000 comparison was actually prompted by someone sending a PM asking whether the Piston is better :o

Well, the thing is that here in Europe one can still get the sony for around $20 on amazon uk coming with the tips in two colors like the retail package. 

And now after all that hype and the Pistons selling for circa 30 I can't really be that impressed with them while the mh1 is still available and especially given that a month ago I got my vsd3s for $37. 

And yeah, as I said the hype got crazy with claims the Pistons were better than dn1k and other more expensive stuff and that's why I said some people have unrealistic expectations. Now, for someone who hasn't heard anything better they will be very impressive. And it will save them a lot of money in the long run coz I'm pretty sure there are a lot of people who have the Pistons and now due to the hype think they can only upgrade them if they spend north of 200 bucks, so they'll stick to them :bigsmile_face: 


Edited by kova4a - 7/14/14 at 9:47pm
post #14065 of 14123
Hi joker, did you try the Xiaomi Pistons with Dirac HD on a Xiaomi phone?
post #14066 of 14123
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by kova4a View Post
 

Well, the thing is that here in Europe one can still get the sony for around $20 on amazon uk coming with the tips in two colors like the retail package. 

And now after all that hype and the Pistons selling for circa 30 I can't really be that impressed with them while the mh1 is still available and especially given that a month ago I got my vsd3s for $37. 

And yeah, as I said the hype got crazy with claims the Pistons were better than dn1k and other more expensive stuff and that's why I said some people have unrealistic expectations. Now, for someone who hasn't heard anything better they will be very impressive. And it will save them a lot of money in the long run coz I'm pretty sure there are a lot of people who have the Pistons and now due to the hype think they can only upgrade them if they spend north of 200 bucks, so they'll stick to them :bigsmile_face: 

 

Doesn't seem to be limiting the number of higher-end options hitting the market, so that's fine by me. I see myself recommending the Pistons quite often though, especially as the PM I receive most often these days is "Recommend me a ($25/$30/$40/$50) earphone for EDM with lots of bass and crystal clear treble... bro"

 

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Originally Posted by Joe Bloggs View Post

Hi joker, did you try the Xiaomi Pistons with Dirac HD on a Xiaomi phone?

 

Nope, sorry. 

post #14067 of 14123
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Originally Posted by Pastapipo View Post
 

Wow, 8.1.

I tried them myself and found them to be too U shaped. Mids were totally recessed to my ears.

The highs of the Pistons are natural and the best I've heard in a long time. The bass was to mid-bassy for me.

 

I wouldn't give them a 8.1, but then again, I haven't heard anything near a percentage of iems joker has. He is the sole reason I started this hobby anyway. 

 

BTW I tried the Ivery IS1 clearhead was hyping a while ago. There nothing special. Fine for the price paid, but far to bassy and veiled over the rest of the spectrum.

Did you remove the filters?  If not, give it a try.

post #14068 of 14123
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Originally Posted by Grayson73 View Post
 

Did you remove the filters?  If not, give it a try.

If you're referring to the Pistons' foam I personally strongly advise against it. 

post #14069 of 14123
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Originally Posted by kova4a View Post
 

If you're referring to the Pistons' foam I personally strongly advise against it. 

Most people have said that it's better without the foam.  It extends the treble and makes it more balanced.

post #14070 of 14123
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Originally Posted by Grayson73 View Post
 

Most people have said that it's better without the foam.  It extends the treble and makes it more balanced.

Nah, it opens up slightly the sound and ruins the bass impact and the treble response. I guarantee you that if Tyll had measured the Pistons with the foams removed it would measure very bad in the 300Hz square wave and the impulse response graph.

I also have to admit that while I assume why joker decided to go for the m6's tips for the Pistons aside from the better fit, I kinda question his choice coz the choice of tips for the Pistons is kinda hard and can change the final review in several places. For instance the M6's tips give probably the most acceptable bass for me from the Pistons - less boomy and out of control but they reduce the treble, especially the top extension, while using wider bore tips opens up the sound but make the bass softer and boomier but then you can't say the vsd1s sounds more spacious. Overall my personal choice will be the meelec rx12's tips or the brainwavz Delta's ones coz they are exactly the same.

Anyway, just my 2 cents.

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