Head-Fi.org › Forums › Equipment Forums › Portable Headphones, Earphones and In-Ear Monitors › Multi-IEM Review - 318 IEMs compared (NarMoo R1M added 07/03/14 p. 936)
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Multi-IEM Review - 318 IEMs compared (NarMoo R1M added 07/03/14 p. 936) - Page 935

post #14011 of 14122
Quote:
Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post

Boosting treble does result in the impression of greater clarity*, but in the case of SS01 vs Philips S1, the difference is negligible and once you spend time ear time with the S1 it won't sound less clear than the SS01 anymore. Also, while the S1 has greater subbass weight, keep in mind that it's not a very bassy earphone overall. It's only about on-par with the VSonic GR07 in overall bass quantity. 

*That's not to say that a brighter earphone is always clearer than a darker-sounding one, but this is how, for example, the "Crystal Clear" BBE+ EQ setting works. 

Thanks for the awnser!
Clear is maybe not the correct term for what I mean.
Out of the box, the Moe-ss01 sounds too bright and therefore spikey at times.
But when I eq the highs down, the sound becomes absolutely fantastic, with excellent separation and layering.
Thats what I mean with clear; "not muddy", while retaining a flat/dark signature.
I cant use the eq on every device i own so the philips sound excellent for my taste, thanks joker!
post #14012 of 14122
Quote:
Originally Posted by getclikinagas View Post
 

You...my friend....need these :smile:

 

 

http://earin.s

Uh....maybe.... :)

post #14013 of 14122
Quote:
Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post
 

 

 

I wish the EP2 was a little less harsh in the upper midrange - that's the biggest gripe I had with it because overall it is a very solid earphone. That said, it's not neutral-sounding - certainly not as neutral as the A161P. It's a little too mid-bassy/bloated compared to the A161P and as a result a little more congested and less detailed.

 

Oh ljokerl, Lord of IEMs,

 

I am repentant about  not listening to you and ordering RBH EP2 anyway  :triportsad: , thinking that it might suit my sonic preferences better but as usual, each word you said above is so so true. I even EQed the upper mid range to see how its sound improves. You really have touched that elusive realm of objectivity while being still confined by our essential subjectivity.

 

EP2's detail and clarity lags behind even UE 600 which I thought was clearly already a step down from A161P. Bass is plenty but slowish, enjoyable but not much as A161P 's fast and punchy bass.

 

Returned the EP2 while waiting for new A161P to arrive from Japan.

 

 

Any IEMs that you  think have  similar bass quality to  A161P( to quote you " fast and resolving"  and "surprisingly punchy, even aggressive at times" ) and equal if not more in quantity ?? and also have no mid recession of any kind and equal or better clarity.

 

I am asking this because I have now tried DBA-02mkII, UE 600vi and RBH EP2 and none has that kind of bass response.

 

I would really welcome a few options.

post #14014 of 14122

Fellow head-fier's, do you want to take a look at some reviews of the IS-1 (Liberty's) in China, by far?

 

Take a look at some reviews from China's "amazon.cn" and "aliexpress.com".....

 

1. http://www.amazon.cn/product-reviews/B00GLRTVIS/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1

 

2. http://www.amazon.cn/%E6%B5%B7%E7%BF%94-ivery-is-1%E5%B8%A6%E9%BA%A6%E7%BA%BF%E6%8E%A7%E8%80%B3%E6%9C%BA-%E9%9C%87%E6%92%BC%E4%BD%8E%E9%9F%B3%E7%8E%8B-%E5%85%BC%E5%AE%B9%E4%B8%80%E5%88%87%E6%99%BA%E8%83%BD%E6%89%8B%E6%9C%BA/product-reviews/B00DYO2AUW/ref=sr_1_1_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1

 

3. http://www.aliexpress.com/item/IS-1-New-2014-Brand-In-Ear-Earphone-with-Mic-Microphone-For-iPhone-5-Samsung-MP3/1723374386.html#feedback

 

Note: Chinese people are very, and I mean VERY PICKY when buying products made from their own people because of QC (quality control).

 

So, this is evidence of the IS-1's reviews making waves in China.

 

.....need I say more?  :wink_face:


Edited by 1clearhead - 6/29/14 at 8:06am
post #14015 of 14122

Clearhead, I fully understand that you're excited by these IEM's and if they are as amazing as you say they are (HD800-amazing), then you deserve to be. However, it seems that you're almost trying to sell everyone the product. I can't help but get the feeling that this is a sort of advertising.

 

What are you trying to accomplish here?

post #14016 of 14122
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dynamoes1 View Post
 

Clearhead, I fully understand that you're excited by these IEM's and if they are as amazing as you say they are (HD800-amazing), then you deserve to be. However, it seems that you're almost trying to sell everyone the product. I can't help but get the feeling that this is a sort of advertising.

 

What are you trying to accomplish here?

 

-Just gave you a heads-up, that's all.....

 

I don't make any money by being a hobbyist, if that's where you're getting at.

 

I'm just excited about a low cost budget IEM that practically I'd never understand with the price vs. its weight in value. Hope you understand my excitement.

 

So there's your answer.

 

So, can I ask you? ......what are you trying to accomplish here?   :wink_face:

post #14017 of 14122
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1clearhead View Post

 

So, can I ask you? ......what are you trying to accomplish here?   :wink_face:

Most likely to make you stop posting here. We get it - you're excited and want to share your excitement. Make one post here, contact joker and ask him whether he's willing to accept a unit for review, make a separate thread and hype as much as you want there. There's no need to make every other comment in this thread yours.

Just look the last 10 pages of this thread - half of the comments are yours and often several in a row instead of just using the EDIT button. Just go to the The discovery thread and share your discovery and hype there if you think that the separate thread you've created is not enough.

No one is trying to stop you from sharing your experience and excitement but this is joker's review thread and people come here to read his reviews and seek his opinion - not to read other people's hype. Imagine what will happen to this thread if everyone who likes a certain iem comes here and starts posting few times a day how good that iem is.

post #14018 of 14122
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1clearhead View Post

 

 

.....need I say more?  :wink_face:

 

No. Please

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1clearhead View Post
 

 

-Just gave you a heads-up, that's all.....

 

I don't make any money by being a hobbyist, if that's where you're getting at.

 

I'm just excited about a low cost budget IEM that practically I'd never understand with the price vs. its weight in value. Hope you understand my excitement.

 

So there's your answer.

 

So, can I ask you? ......what are you trying to accomplish here?   :wink_face:

 

You've given many heads up. Maybe you should change your name to 1cloudyhead. You've brought the product to our attention, that's great! You've created a dedicated thread about it, amazing! People interested in the product will go to the thread, subscribe, ask questions, etc. But this, this is just annoying. If someone asks you on this thread about them, then fine, answer away. But to keep bringing it up, annoying.

post #14019 of 14122
Quote:
Originally Posted by kova4a View Post
 

Most likely to make you stop posting here. We get it - you're excited and want to share your excitement. Make one post here, contact joker and ask him whether he's willing to accept a unit for review, make a separate thread and hype as much as you want there. There's no need to make every other comment in this thread yours.

Just look the last 10 pages of this thread - half of the comments are yours and often several in a row instead of just using the EDIT button. Just go to the The discovery thread and share your discovery and hype there if you think that the separate thread you've created is not enough.

No one is trying to stop you from sharing your experience and excitement but this is joker's review thread and people come here to read his reviews and seek his opinion - not to read other people's hype. Imagine what will happen to this thread if everyone who likes a certain iem comes here and starts posting few times a day how good that iem is.

 

I apologize......absolutely right.

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by esteebin View Post
 

 

No. Please

 

You've given many heads up. Maybe you should change your name to 1cloudyhead. You've brought the product to our attention, that's great! You've created a dedicated thread about it, amazing! People interested in the product will go to the thread, subscribe, ask questions, etc. But this, this is just annoying. If someone asks you on this thread about them, then fine, answer away. But to keep bringing it up, annoying.

 

Gladly noted, guys. I apologize.

post #14020 of 14122
Quote:
Originally Posted by esteebin View Post
 

 

No. Please

 

You've given many heads up. Maybe you should change your name to 1cloudyhead. You've brought the product to our attention, that's great! You've created a dedicated thread about it, amazing! People interested in the product will go to the thread, subscribe, ask questions, etc. But this, this is just annoying. If someone asks you on this thread about them, then fine, answer away. But to keep bringing it up, annoying.

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by kova4a View Post
 

Most likely to make you stop posting here. We get it - you're excited and want to share your excitement. Make one post here, contact joker and ask him whether he's willing to accept a unit for review, make a separate thread and hype as much as you want there. There's no need to make every other comment in this thread yours.

Just look the last 10 pages of this thread - half of the comments are yours and often several in a row instead of just using the EDIT button. Just go to the The discovery thread and share your discovery and hype there if you think that the separate thread you've created is not enough.

No one is trying to stop you from sharing your experience and excitement but this is joker's review thread and people come here to read his reviews and seek his opinion - not to read other people's hype. Imagine what will happen to this thread if everyone who likes a certain iem comes here and starts posting few times a day how good that iem is.

 

Sincere' apologize.

post #14021 of 14122

alright. let's move on.:beerchug:

post #14022 of 14122
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vidzegg View Post
 

 

Oh ljokerl, Lord of IEMs,

 

I am repentant about  not listening to you and ordering RBH EP2 anyway  :triportsad: , thinking that it might suit my sonic preferences better but as usual, each word you said above is so so true. I even EQed the upper mid range to see how its sound improves. You really have touched that elusive realm of objectivity while being still confined by our essential subjectivity.

 

EP2's detail and clarity lags behind even UE 600 which I thought was clearly already a step down from A161P. Bass is plenty but slowish, enjoyable but not much as A161P 's fast and punchy bass.

 

Returned the EP2 while waiting for new A161P to arrive from Japan.

 

 

Any IEMs that you  think have  similar bass quality to  A161P( to quote you " fast and resolving"  and "surprisingly punchy, even aggressive at times" ) and equal if not more in quantity ?? and also have no mid recession of any kind and equal or better clarity.

 

I am asking this because I have now tried DBA-02mkII, UE 600vi and RBH EP2 and none has that kind of bass response.

 

I would really welcome a few options.

 

That's an unfortunate experience, but I every new earphone heard is a step towards discovering what you can and can't tolerate ;)

 

A good question about the A161P - what comes to mind are the "Heaven"-series earphones I've heard from Final Audio Design - Heaven A, Heaven C, Heaven S. The newer Heaven II seems promising as well but I haven't spent enough time with it yet to be sure. 

 

Don't know if there are any other single-BA earphones on the market using the Knowles ED driver aside from the A161P and Etymotic's models. Most of the recent ones are hybrids that "ruin" the bass (as far as your requirements go) with an extra dynamic driver.

post #14023 of 14122

Hi Joker

 

Just seen on your headphonelist site the brief reviews of the minerva range.  Was just wondering if the pro in silicone would be a worthwhile upgrade over the single driver mi1 (half shell) that I am using from the same company atm?  I find that it's ok for most things but obviously that single driver lacks grunt in the bass department (somewhat unsurprisingly!). 

 

Cheers

post #14024 of 14122

Awesome thread. Even has it's very own bookmark on my desktop. Was wondering if it would be possible or desirable to have a list of IEM's that you are reviewing, planning to review or would like to review if someone would loan them or whatever. Maybe it's not feasible? Either way, thanks for all the hard work in doing this IjokerI.

post #14025 of 14122
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by davidcotton View Post
 

Hi Joker

 

Just seen on your headphonelist site the brief reviews of the minerva range.  Was just wondering if the pro in silicone would be a worthwhile upgrade over the single driver mi1 (half shell) that I am using from the same company atm?  I find that it's ok for most things but obviously that single driver lacks grunt in the bass department (somewhat unsurprisingly!). 

 

Cheers

 

Unfortunately I haven't had a chance to try the Minerva single-drivers. I don't know if this is helpful but I did find the Pro in silicone to be a good upgrade from the Custom Art Music One - maybe someone has compared those with the single-driver Minervas. I wouldn't say the duals have particularly high bass quantity, but they're not lacking in bass.

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by shockdoc View Post
 

Awesome thread. Even has it's very own bookmark on my desktop. Was wondering if it would be possible or desirable to have a list of IEM's that you are reviewing, planning to review or would like to review if someone would loan them or whatever. Maybe it's not feasible? Either way, thanks for all the hard work in doing this IjokerI.

 

There's a list below the table on the front page. It's not complete, but it's a good start ;) . I also have two on loan that will get a review - the 2.0 Pistons and the Sony XBA-H3.

New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
Head-Fi.org › Forums › Equipment Forums › Portable Headphones, Earphones and In-Ear Monitors › Multi-IEM Review - 318 IEMs compared (NarMoo R1M added 07/03/14 p. 936)