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I honestly have no clue if they're genuine or not.

Just realised that Amazon and another American eBay seller sell them for double the price as that. Which probably means that the £30 ones are gonna be fake frown.gif
Edited by AgentJ - 2/15/14 at 5:11pm
post #12962 of 14123
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Just realised that Amazon and another American eBay seller sell them for double the price as that. Which probably means that the £30 ones are gonna be fake frown.gif

 

Some of the electronics companies around here (like, the big chain stores not little off-the-wall places) sell the FRD80s for cheaper than that on sale.  

post #12963 of 14123
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Yep, those are the ones I meant!

 

 

So it appears that the JVC HA-FXZ100/200 are not particularly easy to acquire. 

 

Hence, let me try a different angle.

 

I love the fun, big, dynamic, energetic, and smooth qualities of the VSonic GR99's.  I like wearing these at the gym a lot, for instance, as the sound really draws me in, and is not fatiguing in the least.

 

But for more critical listening, I'd like something with a bit more detail and airiness in the mids, as well as a bit less bass bleed over to the mids.  I don't mind the highs on these actually, I just want more out of the mids.  I like their warm quality, and I think the bass presence provides a good foundation for the sound.  I think the placement of things in the soundstage sounds right to my ears as well.  I just want less bass bleed over to the mids; a little more detail and clarity on things like electric guitars so that they have a bit more bite, crunch, and three-dimensionality; and a little less veil over the vocals (but not too much, just a slightly less amount...vocals seem to be the thing that I am most sensitive to these days in terms of peaks).

 

Any thoughts on something that might work?


Edited by steelglam - 2/15/14 at 7:26pm
post #12964 of 14123

hi joker

when will you add FIDUE A63 to your list of review ?

from our last conversion it seems that a63 is best option for me so i am waiting for some final words from you.

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Originally Posted by SyCo87 View Post

Sorry joker, I was asking for a comparison between the VC1000 and the DUNU1000s in upper midrange (female vocals) and soundstage.

 

The VC1000 has a more level sound signature with no midrange recession. Discounting the significantly more powerful bass of the Dunu set their performance is similar except that the VC1000 sounds a little smoother to me through the upper midrange and treble. Soundstaging likewise is similar but the VC1000 is never hindered by prominent bass, which affords it slightly better imaging in my experience. 

 

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Originally Posted by steelglam View Post
 

 

So it appears that the JVC HA-FXZ100/200 are not particularly easy to acquire. 

 

Hence, let me try a different angle.

 

I love the fun, big, dynamic, energetic, and smooth qualities of the VSonic GR99's.  I like wearing these at the gym a lot, for instance, as the sound really draws me in, and is not fatiguing in the least.

 

But for more critical listening, I'd like something with a bit more detail and airiness in the mids, as well as a bit less bass bleed over to the mids.  I don't mind the highs on these actually, I just want more out of the mids.  I like their warm quality, and I think the bass presence provides a good foundation for the sound.  I think the placement of things in the soundstage sounds right to my ears as well.  I just want less bass bleed over to the mids; a little more detail and clarity on things like electric guitars so that they have a bit more bite, crunch, and three-dimensionality; and a little less veil over the vocals (but not too much, just a slightly less amount...vocals seem to be the thing that I am most sensitive to these days in terms of peaks).

 

Any thoughts on something that might work?

 

Sorry, I don't have any more recommendations for this.

 

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Originally Posted by sbose View Post
 

hi joker

when will you add FIDUE A63 to your list of review ?

from our last conversion it seems that a63 is best option for me so i am waiting for some final words from you.

 

Should be one of the next ones up. Currently working on the HiSound BA100. 

post #12966 of 14123
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post

 

Sorry, I don't have any more recommendations for this.

 

OK, thanks.  I really appreciate all of the help, and the resource that you have provided.  It's been extremely valuable.  Things used to be easier on my ears in general, but as I've gotten older, I've become more sensitive to certain things.  It's been frustrating.  The trick for me is finding a balance between warmth and bass presence in the low end; detail, clarity, and dynamics in the midrange; and smoothness in the high end.  It's tough!

 

I mentioned the Vsonic GR99's because I think they deliver what I'm looking for in the low and high end, so I was wondering if maybe one of the more expensive Vsonic's got the midrange right as well.

 

I see a lot of mention of the HiFiMan RE-400's around here, and you give them a good review.  I was thinking of trying those as well.

post #12967 of 14123
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post

The VC1000 has a more level sound signature with no midrange recession. Discounting the significantly more powerful bass of the Dunu set their performance is similar except that the VC1000 sounds a little smoother to me through the upper midrange and treble. Soundstaging likewise is similar but the VC1000 is never hindered by prominent bass, which affords it slightly better imaging in my experience. 


Sorry, I don't have any more recommendations for this.


Should be one of the next ones up. Currently working on the HiSound BA100. 

Joker So if I understand you correctly the dunu not recommended for purchase by your opinion ,Whether the vc1000 sound better than dunu and cheaper.
post #12968 of 14123

Not at all what he said. It depends on if you like something with a bit extra or less bass that than what may be considered the perfect amount and even that's individually subjective. It doesn't matter if a cheaper thing is at qualitatively the same level if it's quantitative nature doesn't agree with you. 

post #12969 of 14123
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elbdogs is correct - there is no 3-button M6P as far as I know, only a 1-button with volume slider. I still have at least two M6s (might still have my 1st-gen one somewhere). Use them while running and with other dangerous (for IEMs) activities. Sound-wise they are no VSD1S but for $20 I can't say I feel they are lacking anything. I've never found the bass quantity on them lacking but the fit can be a little tricky at first. I think the stock tips have improved over the years - the bi-flanges that came with my newest set actually fit me pretty well. 

 

The E10M does sound better but may not be as durable in the long run. It has a true 3-button control though. Ditto on the Ultimate Ears 500vi - the other sub $40 3-button set I would recommend for sound quality over the M6P, but not for construction.

Thanks! I went with the M6P eventually as I would be using them right now for working out and such and if I require good IEMs for other use, I'll stretch my budget and get something that has even better quality than both E10M and M6P when I'll be back in Europe. Might aswell take the opportunity to order Meelectronics as I'm in the States right now!

 

I'll hopefully be happy with them even as I use them daily on commutes as such, we'll see! They'll probably be a (big?) improvement over the stock Apple Earbuds I was using daily.

post #12970 of 14123
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post

 

The E10 or 3580 would probably be my pick for punchy but not overly mid-recessed. They have less of a v-shape than the M9. I don't find the E10 to have great isolation, though, and the other set I would recommend (the LG Quadbeat) has that issue as well. 

 

There's the SteelSeries Flux at $50 if you can stretch your budget - good isolation and fits your other needs. It's a very shallow v-shape in response.

 

Do you think if I used the Meelectronics flange tips on the E10 I would achieve good isolation?

 

Also, thoughts on the E10 vs. the Brainwavz M1?


Edited by z28dreams - 2/16/14 at 11:15am
post #12971 of 14123

Hello Joker,

 

I've heard great things about the RHA MA-750i. But I read a few reviews that say it doesn't handle classical or jazz well. Any thoughts on this? If so, what do you recommend around that price?

 

Thanks!

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Edited by Lukalop - 2/16/14 at 2:13pm
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Thanks for broadening my horizon.

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Originally Posted by steelglam View Post
 

 

OK, thanks.  I really appreciate all of the help, and the resource that you have provided.  It's been extremely valuable.  Things used to be easier on my ears in general, but as I've gotten older, I've become more sensitive to certain things.  It's been frustrating.  The trick for me is finding a balance between warmth and bass presence in the low end; detail, clarity, and dynamics in the midrange; and smoothness in the high end.  It's tough!

 

I mentioned the Vsonic GR99's because I think they deliver what I'm looking for in the low and high end, so I was wondering if maybe one of the more expensive Vsonic's got the midrange right as well.

 

I see a lot of mention of the HiFiMan RE-400's around here, and you give them a good review.  I was thinking of trying those as well.

 

The GR99 is very unique in VSonic's lineup - the darkest of the bunch with rather full-bodied sound. I don't think you want to look at VSonic for another GR99-like earphone.

 

 

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Originally Posted by goodvibes View Post
 

Not at all what he said. It depends on if you like something with a bit extra or less bass that than what may be considered the perfect amount and even that's individually subjective. It doesn't matter if a cheaper thing is at qualitatively the same level if it's quantitative nature doesn't agree with you. 

 

That's correct. Thanks for interpreting :p

 

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Originally Posted by Shiryu View Post
 

Thanks! I went with the M6P eventually as I would be using them right now for working out and such and if I require good IEMs for other use, I'll stretch my budget and get something that has even better quality than both E10M and M6P when I'll be back in Europe. Might aswell take the opportunity to order Meelectronics as I'm in the States right now!

 

I'll hopefully be happy with them even as I use them daily on commutes as such, we'll see! They'll probably be a (big?) improvement over the stock Apple Earbuds I was using daily.

 

If you have the old Apple earbuds it should be an improvement. Apple earpods, probably not so much. 

 

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Originally Posted by z28dreams View Post
 

 

Do you think if I used the Meelectronics flange tips on the E10 I would achieve good isolation?

 

Also, thoughts on the E10 vs. the Brainwavz M1?

 

The M1 is more mid-centric, rolling off the bass compared to the E10 and having less treble energy as well. 

 

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Originally Posted by za51 View Post
 

Hello Joker,

 

I've heard great things about the RHA MA-750i. But I read a few reviews that say it doesn't handle classical or jazz well. Any thoughts on this? If so, what do you recommend around that price?

 

Thanks!

 

I personally would want a more balanced-sounding earphone for those genres, or at least on with a little more midrange relative to the bass. Not a lot of options for that while still maintaining enhanced bass, though.

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I personally would want a more balanced-sounding earphone for those genres, or at least on with a little more midrange relative to the bass. Not a lot of options for that while still maintaining enhanced bass, though.

 

Thanks so much for your response! Do you have any suggestions around the price range of the MA-750i? Or do I have to go above $200?

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