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post #12766 of 14122

So I decided to blow my budget and grab a pair of GR07BEs. Got em on sale for $139 Cdn, but this really was well above what I was planning on spending ($50-100). But since they were getting to much love I said to heck with it. Sounds ok so far. Actually way more bass than I was expecting, I can't even use the comply-type tips cause there is just too much bass there. I guess I've just gotten so used to my PFE111s. I suppose this is the difference between a BA and dynamic. To me an analogy would be that the PFE is like a really good stand mounted speaker, whereas the vsonic would be a floor stander. I'll need to spend more time with em before I can make a definitive opinion, but so far I haven't got that money well spent feeling like I did from the Phonaks.

 

This brings me to a question. Has anybody else purchased these recently? I ask because I didn't get any hybrid tips with mine. I was wondering if it's because of the recent tiff with sony or something else. I still haven't heard from the guys I bought em from yet (that's my one complaint about Headphone Bar, kinda slack with the email). I'm not all that concerned, genuine sony's are under $10 if I really want them, and I might try some actual comply's (not sure if I can stretch my phonak tips to fit. I'll wait till the ones I'm using now are pretty much done so I don't trash a new pair).

I also asked this over on the 07 thread, but no one's replied so I figured I'd ask here too.

Cheers.

BTW any thoughts about comply tip size. So far I've read everything from 200-500.

post #12767 of 14122

From what I've read, Comply doesn't officially fit and actually I'd stay away from them. It's weird that you didn't get the Vsonic hybrids. Anyway, if you're going to spend $10 on tips, might as well buy a pair of MH1 (the cheap ones) and get the new hybrids AND a nice headset (even if you can't use them with most things without an adapter or recabling). I got a great sound with my GR07mkII and the MH1C hybrids.

 

If you really want to use comply tips I think something like using the steam from a hybrid tip and stuffing it inside a larger comply tip like T400-500. You can kind of put the hybrid tip inside the comply tip, fold it inside out and make the silicone act as a sleeve over the nozzle of the GR07 if you want to. It actually works. It's an interesting way and you'll probably have to have them in front of you to understand what I mean.

post #12768 of 14122

I'd still like to give actual complys a try. They are stupid comfy with my phonaks, and I find that the silicone are more prone to cable noise. I'm also hoping the real comply won't be so bassy since they are smaller and probaby won't fit so deep/tight (I don't really notice any huge diff in sound with the PFE, so it must be the vsonic foam right:o) I have managed to fit the phonak large silicone onto the vsonic, but they do stick out a little farther and are kinda wobbly which make them even more susceptable noise.

 

Even the packaging is different for most of the other pics that I've seen (including The Headphone Bar website). They came in the same type of box as the 07classics. If they didn't have the candy cable, I'd wonder if I didn't get the classics instead.

 

Another thing...How does the vsonic security check work anyways. I can't read chinese and google translate just makes it worse:rolleyes:. What number are you supposed to enter?


Edited by Mr Trev - 1/27/14 at 1:03pm
post #12769 of 14122
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Pastapipo View Post


How about the xiaomi pistons 2. http://www.ibuygou.com/p-original_xiaomi_piston_earphone_updated_version_brown-5708-usd.html
There is a great hype going on about them at the discovery thread. Haven't got them myself, but respected heafiers are praising them.
I'm curious to how joker would rate them, but reading this thread makes it obvious there are far more iems in line waiting to being reviewed.

 

Ain't that the truth.

 

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Originally Posted by wysinawyg View Post

 

Thanks ljokerl for the RHA MA750 review and this incredible gazzillion-IEM thread. It's my bible every time I look for IEMs.

 

I've been using the ECCI PR401 and have no complaints with the sound signature, except I do want more isolation, a 3-button remote and hopefully more spacious presentation.

I was considering the OM Audio Inearpeace and NOCS NS400 but couldn't find reviews to benchmark against the criteria in this thread, but now it looks like this RHA MA750i could be the ticket!

 

A few questions:

 

- are the guided-over-ear hooks removable (have never worn over-ear hooks before and don't know if it will be uncomfortable for me)

- how would you say the MA750 is (or isn't) significantly different from the PR401 in terms of sound quality?

 

 

The MA750 is warmer-sounding and significantly bassier than the PR401. It also has a little more upper midrange/lower treble presence but not enough to significantly differentiate it from the ECCI there. I haven't heard the ECCIs in a while but from memory the MA750 should be a little wider. The PR401's signature has a very mild v-shape that reminds me more of the LG Quadbeat. Like the Quadbeat it has an advantage over a lot of similarly-priced IEMs in soundstage size due to that particular signature. 

 

The earhooks on the MA750 are definitely not removable. They can be re-shaped if necessary but they're there to stay. 

 

 

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Originally Posted by marcrom View Post


How do I know if the mee m6 is older? Thank you.

 

Not sure how to do it for the black/clear ones but the other colors (white, blue, purple, etc) didn't exist until the current generation so you're always getting the newest ones with those colors. 

 

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Originally Posted by jant71 View Post
 


Yep, I had the older one and it was decent but not sure how much the new one improved for today's market. I like the Moxpad X3/Soundsoul U10 better for a similar flush in ear that has better sound plus replaceable cable. Still a warm smooth enjoyable sig but closer to the VSD1 SQ level than the M6 was.

 

I have a purple current-get one and for $20 I think it's fine. It's not up to par with $50 VSonics but I can listen to it while walking my dog without turning back early.

 

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Originally Posted by Mr Trev View Post
 

So I decided to blow my budget and grab a pair of GR07BEs. Got em on sale for $139 Cdn, but this really was well above what I was planning on spending ($50-100). But since they were getting to much love I said to heck with it. Sounds ok so far. Actually way more bass than I was expecting, I can't even use the comply-type tips cause there is just too much bass there. I guess I've just gotten so used to my PFE111s. I suppose this is the difference between a BA and dynamic. To me an analogy would be that the PFE is like a really good stand mounted speaker, whereas the vsonic would be a floor stander. I'll need to spend more time with em before I can make a definitive opinion, but so far I haven't got that money well spent feeling like I did from the Phonaks.

 

This brings me to a question. Has anybody else purchased these recently? I ask because I didn't get any hybrid tips with mine. I was wondering if it's because of the recent tiff with sony or something else. I still haven't heard from the guys I bought em from yet (that's my one complaint about Headphone Bar, kinda slack with the email). I'm not all that concerned, genuine sony's are under $10 if I really want them, and I might try some actual comply's (not sure if I can stretch my phonak tips to fit. I'll wait till the ones I'm using now are pretty much done so I don't trash a new pair).

I also asked this over on the 07 thread, but no one's replied so I figured I'd ask here too.

Cheers.

BTW any thoughts about comply tip size. So far I've read everything from 200-500.

 

Unfortunately (or maybe fortunately?) my GR07s are both pretty old (my GR07 mkI had its 3rd birthday earlier this year). Not sure if they've been changed recently.

 

I personally never found a comply size that works properly but the only ones I have are *400s and *200s. Lately I've been using modified meelec triple-flanges with an adapter to make them fit on the GR07 nozzles. 

post #12770 of 14122
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post
 

 

Unfortunately (or maybe fortunately?) my GR07s are both pretty old (my GR07 mkI had its 3rd birthday earlier this year). Not sure if they've been changed recently.

 

I personally never found a comply size that works properly but the only ones I have are *400s and *200s. Lately I've been using modified meelec triple-flanges with an adapter to make them fit on the GR07 nozzles. 

 

The phonak tips are t130. Looking at them I can see they are a little smaller than the one vsonic had, but I might be able to stretch the inner tube enough to fit. According to you reviews the phonaks have a 13mm nozzle, and the 07 are 14mm so it might not be too much of a stretch (bad pun intended:D). I'll just have to wait till the tips I'm using now are a little more worn down before I try and get them on, I don't want to destroy a new pair. At least the nozzle on the 07 is metal so I won't have to worry bout breaking that.

Can you explain that adapter?

Cheers.

post #12771 of 14122
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Originally Posted by Mr Trev View Post
 

 

The phonak tips are t130. Looking at them I can see they are a little smaller than the one vsonic had, but I might be able to stretch the inner tube enough to fit. According to you reviews the phonaks have a 13mm nozzle, and the 07 are 14mm so it might not be too much of a stretch (bad pun intended:D). I'll just have to wait till the tips I'm using now are a little more worn down before I try and get them on, I don't want to destroy a new pair. At least the nozzle on the 07 is metal so I won't have to worry bout breaking that.

Can you explain that adapter?

Cheers.

 

      it cant be 13/14 mm nozzle man .

post #12772 of 14122
Thread Starter 

Posted the fourth and final part of my CES Headphone Impressions at http://theheadphonelist.com/ces-2014-headphone-coverage-part-4-scosche-meelectronics-german-maestro/ 

 

 

Highlights from Part 4:

 

  • The technical details of Scosche headphones elude even their staff but some of the models sound pretty good
  • The MEElectronics Atlas looks good with full-headphone graphics and sounds good with deep bass and a mildly v-shaped signature
  • As it turns out, a Motörhead concert at 110dB is not conducive to headphone testing
  • Nakamichi wins the coveted “Worst in Show” award for the turdtastic NK 600
  • An upcoming Ecko Unltd full-size headphone may just be retro enough to work
  • Razer’s new made-for-music Adaro headphone line is worth a listen
  • GermanMAESTRO impresses with lightweight, yet ultra-durable headphones, especially the full-size GMP 435 S

 

 

Full post can be found here

 

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Originally Posted by Mr Trev View Post
 

 

Can you explain that adapter?

 

 

MEElec tips are too loose on the VSonic nozzles. Putting the cores of smaller tips on the VSonic nozzle first and then stretching the MEElec tips over allows them to fit securely. It's the same idea as the Monster Supertip adapters: http://www.head-fi.org/t/559919/monster-eartip-adapters-a-potential-yet-competent-solution 

post #12773 of 14122
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Originally Posted by suman134 View Post
 

 

      it cant be 13/14 mm nozzle man .

not 13/14. I meant one pair (phonak) has a 13mm nozzle. The other (gr07) has a 14mm. I don't have a micrometer to confirm, but it makes sense to me...

 

 

My bad.....it's actually 3mm vs. 4mm.


Edited by Mr Trev - 1/28/14 at 7:52am
post #12774 of 14122

Yeah, for some reason aside from the smallest meelec m6's tips the other ones are a bit loose but you can force them over the lower part of the nozzle and they fit securely but you do get a shallower insertion this way unless you're using tri-flanges. The VSD1's nozzles in comparison seem to be a hair thicker and hold some tips a bit better without adapters. 

post #12775 of 14122

Thanks ljokerl!

 

 

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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post
 

 

The MA750 is warmer-sounding and significantly bassier than the PR401. It also has a little more upper midrange/lower treble presence but not enough to significantly differentiate it from the ECCI there. I haven't heard the ECCIs in a while but from memory the MA750 should be a little wider. The PR401's signature has a very mild v-shape that reminds me more of the LG Quadbeat. Like the Quadbeat it has an advantage over a lot of similarly-priced IEMs in soundstage size due to that particular signature. 

 

The earhooks on the MA750 are definitely not removable. They can be re-shaped if necessary but they're there to stay. 

 

 

post #12776 of 14122

 

My favorite headphones would be the Yamaha EPH-100 but I can't wear them because of the insertion depth. How do these compare to the RHA MA750. They are both classified as warm & sweet on your website.

post #12777 of 14122

Hi joker

 

I am currently using klipsch image s4 and i am willing to upgrade to something with more bass
I listen to hip hop (eminem) most of the time
i am using fiio e10 as my amp and listen to music throught it most of the time
After reading your reviews i came down to three iems


Velodyne vPulse
Nuforce NE-700X / NE-700M 
HiSoundAudio Wooduo 2


From what i read HiSoundAudio Wooduo 2 looks good for me

 

 

I just wanted to know your recommendation for me at a $110 budget

my main focus is bass like klipsch 4 but much better

post #12778 of 14122
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Originally Posted by Kani View Post
 

Hi joker

 

I am currently using klipsch image s4 and i am willing to upgrade to something with more bass
I listen to hip hop (eminem) most of the time
i am using fiio e10 as my amp and listen to music throught it most of the time
After reading your reviews i came down to three iems


Velodyne vPulse
Nuforce NE-700X / NE-700M 
HiSoundAudio Wooduo 2


From what i read HiSoundAudio Wooduo 2 looks good for me

 

 

I just wanted to know your recommendation for me at a $110 budget

my main focus is bass like klipsch 4 but much better

 

   if you are mainly after bass , deep sub bass & mid bass i will suggest xb90ex , plenty of bass to enjoy .

post #12779 of 14122

Hey. If anybody is interested, I did manage to get my phonak comply tips to fit on my gr07bes. Since I can never leave well enough alone, I figured I'd give it a try. Took  a little finesse getting them started,but not nearly as bad as I thought it might be. How hard it'll be getting them off remains to be seen. Size wise the complys are the same as the vsonic ones, but the foam of the comply is softer, and doesn't expand as quick making them easier to put in. Sound wise I thought the vsonics were really bassy, but not so much the comply. Could be because of the softer foam. Or maybe I'm just imagining it:o. Now I just need to find the sweet spot for the left nozzle.

Cheers

post #12780 of 14122
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Originally Posted by Mr Trev View Post

Hey. If anybody is interested, I did manage to get my phonak comply tips to fit on my gr07bes. Since I can never leave well enough alone, I figured I'd give it a try. Took  a little finesse getting them started,but not nearly as bad as I thought it might be. How hard it'll be getting them off remains to be seen. Size wise the complys are the same as the vsonic ones, but the foam of the comply is softer, and doesn't expand as quick making them easier to put in. Sound wise I thought the vsonics were really bassy, but not so much the comply. Could be because of the softer foam. Or maybe I'm just imagining it:o . Now I just need to find the sweet spot for the left nozzle.
Cheers

Good for you! I think the comply tips you have are an older model, didn't you say T130? Haven't seen any other except the T-X00 lately so I guess they cut down on the different sizes or something. Anyway. Good they worked for you!
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