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How does the GR07 Bass Edition compare to the JVC FXT-90?

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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post

 

Playing around with different tips is definitely a good idea. Not sure what the B2 comes with these days but there should be some Complys included. I also got good results with thick/narrow opening single-flange tips (from an older Shure set) as well as triple-flanges if they are comfortable for you.
 
Beyond that there's always the EQ - the 5 - 8k range usually contains most of the sibilance. 

 

They come with a few sets of standard silicone tips and a pair of Comply foamies. With the savings I made I'd already ordered some Westone True Tips as I find the foam style tips to be really comfortable for longer listening. I have my own collection of assorted tips which I'll have a go with over the course of the weekend/next week. I'll certainly be trying out the Comply's and triple-flanges first.

 

As for the EQ, excellent. I'll drop a couple of dB on that range and see how it goes.

 

Joker... you're the best :)

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thanks for the reply , im thinking of going with ie800 or fidelio s1 or rha 750 , i want some bass , nice mids , and sparky highs , which one should i go for ?

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I thank Joker and the rest for helping people choose an earphone, I finally found something I fell inlove with, Sony MH1C, low cost, butter smooth, nothing too much or too less, almost perfect to my ears.

MH1 for me sounds almost perfect, it has an incredible smoothness that no matter how loud you listen there is nothing in particular to disturb you except for the volume itself.

 

The thing is I HATE the heavy CABLE, mic and asimetrical design, I want something with small housings and normal cable, no mic, that can be worn both straight or over the ear, is there something similar to MH1C that fits my description?

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I thank Joker and the rest for helping people choose an earphone, I finally found something I fell inlove with, Sony MH1C, low cost, butter smooth, nothing too much or too less, almost perfect to my ears.

MH1 for me sounds almost perfect, it has an incredible smoothness that no matter how loud you listen there is nothing in particular to disturb you except for the volume itself.

 

The thing is I HATE the heavy CABLE, mic and asimetrical design, I want something with small housings and normal cable, no mic, that can be worn both straight or over the ear, is there something similar to MH1C that fits my description?

 

I'd suggest the SteelSeries Flux, which is an excellent value at around $50 but sometimes it has gone on sale for as low as $25.  I too hated the cable of the MH1 to the point of not using it but the Flux has a thinner, more flexible flat cable that still has a mic/remote and works with any android/iphone as well.  Comparatively it has a little less warmth and less of a bass tilt, but the mids are a bit more forward and it is definitely more transparent side by side.  Treble is never harsh like the MH1 and is a bit more extended it seems.  It would sound great out of your Clip+ too :cool:

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Originally Posted by MDFMK View Post
 

How does the GR07 Bass Edition compare to the JVC FXT-90?

 

The FXT90 has a bit more mid-bass while the GR07 is more level in the bass region and sounds a bit tighter. The FXT90 is more forward overall. The GR07 is less warm, brighter, a bit clearer, and has a more out-of-the-head presentation.

 

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Originally Posted by ElcomeSoft View Post
 

 

They come with a few sets of standard silicone tips and a pair of Comply foamies. With the savings I made I'd already ordered some Westone True Tips as I find the foam style tips to be really comfortable for longer listening. I have my own collection of assorted tips which I'll have a go with over the course of the weekend/next week. I'll certainly be trying out the Comply's and triple-flanges first.

 

As for the EQ, excellent. I'll drop a couple of dB on that range and see how it goes.

 

Joker... you're the best :)

 

Good luck! :beerchug:

 

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Originally Posted by suman134 View Post
 

thanks for the reply , im thinking of going with ie800 or fidelio s1 or rha 750 , i want some bass , nice mids , and sparky highs , which one should i go for ?

 

The TDK IE800? Never tried it. The RHA is more bass-oriented than the S1 and has less presence in the upper midrange and a less bright tone. The upper mids/treble of the S1 are more like the GR07 (good energy, not very forgiving) than the MA750. Anyway, both good earphones, just very different flavors.

 

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Originally Posted by cibibikeru View Post
 

I thank Joker and the rest for helping people choose an earphone, I finally found something I fell inlove with, Sony MH1C, low cost, butter smooth, nothing too much or too less, almost perfect to my ears.

MH1 for me sounds almost perfect, it has an incredible smoothness that no matter how loud you listen there is nothing in particular to disturb you except for the volume itself.

 

The thing is I HATE the heavy CABLE, mic and asimetrical design, I want something with small housings and normal cable, no mic, that can be worn both straight or over the ear, is there something similar to MH1C that fits my description?

 

In that price range the Flux is probably your best bet. Personally I don't think it's notably smoother than the MH1C but it definitely has a bit less bass and a more accurate overall sound. The cable on the Flux isn't great but it's symmetric and can be used over-the-ear. It does have a mic though. Staying in the price range there's just not much that can compete with the MH1C, especially considering you like the signature. Moving up into the $100-$150 range there's more options but nothing I can think of that ticks ALL the boxes per your requirements. 

 

Someone should really start recabling MH1Cs for a fee... it's easy to find a $10-20 donor IEM with vastly better cables.

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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post
 

 

The TDK IE800? Never tried it. The RHA is more bass-oriented than the S1 and has less presence in the upper midrange and a less bright tone. The upper mids/treble of the S1 are more like the GR07 (good energy, not very forgiving) than the MA750. Anyway, both good earphones, just very different flavors.

 

   big help man ,  but have you heard klipsch imave x7i ?

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Thread Starter 

Added Moe Audio MOE-SS01 - a dual dynamic driver IEM closely related to the pricier JVC HA-FXT90.

 

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(2C60) Moe Audio MOE-SS01

 

Reviewed December 2013

 

Details: Dual dynamic driver earphone from China-based Moe Audio, closely related to the JVC HA-FXT90

MSRP: $65 (manufacturer’s page)

Current Price: $64 from lendmeurears.com

Specs: Driver: Dual Dynamic | Imp: 12Ω | Sens: 107 dB | Freq: 8-25k Hz | Cable: 3.9' I-plug

Nozzle Size: 5.5mm | Preferred tips: stock single-flanges; MEElec “balanced” bi-flanges

Wear Style: Straight down or over-the-ear

 

Accessories (2.5/5) – Single-flange silicone tips (3 sizes), shirt clip, and soft carrying pouch

Build Quality (4/5) – The SS01 uses plastic shells that clearly show the driver chambers and incorporate an “S” into the design. The earphones utilize a narrow flat cable that actually feels rather sturdy and is more user-friendly than most other flat cables, which tend to be either too thick and heavy, or too rubbery

Isolation (3/5) – Not bad despite the shallow-fitting shells

Microphonics (4.5/5) – Very low when worn cable-down; nonexistent with over-the-ear wear

Comfort (4/5) – The drivers of the SS01 are arranged vertically, like those of the JVC FXT90, resulting in similarly-shaped housings. The earphones are lightweight, and despite their larger footprint in the ear are no less comfortable than most conventional straight-barrel IEMs, thanks in part to the angled nozzles. Over-the-ear wear is possible for those with larger ears but may require longer eartips than those provided. For me the SS01 is much more comfortable when worn cord-down

 

Sound (8/10) – The MOE-SS01 utilizes a driver setup similar to the pricier JVC HA-FXT90s - twin 5.8mm drivers made of different carbon composites. The sound bears some similarities to the JVCs but on the whole the discrepancies do add up to a rather different audio experience. I would summarize the sound of the SS01 as very clear, with a cool tonal character and slightly v-shaped response.

 

The bass of the SS01 is very impressive, perhaps second only to the earphone’s clarity in this regard. It is enhanced, but not overbearing, and has good punch and extension with virtually no bloat. The JVC FXT90, which the SS01 is closely related to, has more of a mid-bass hump and sounds warmer and fuller overall. The SS01 is a little on the thin side, especially with the way it presents male vocals, but otherwise the mids are quite good - mostly level and extremely clear.

 

The upper midrange and lower treble of the SS01 are quite prominent, lending guitars great presence and “crunch”. The treble is nice and energetic overall. It reminds me of the Audio-Technica ATH-CKM500 - not really peaky, but with an “edgy” character that occasionally bothers me (with a lot of heavy metal recordings, for example). At times, the SS01 can exaggerate sibilance a bit as well, but not nearly to the same extent as the average VSonic set. The FXT90, from memory, had a bit more treble sparkle but less of an edge to it.

 

The presentation has good width and decent imaging for something in this price range. It’s not quite as spacious and out-of-the-head as, say, a VSonic GR07, but it fares very well against similarly-priced sets. The SS01 is very efficient, too, reaching listening volume more easily than the GR07 and most other dynamic-driver sets.

 

Select Comparisons

 

VSonic VSD1S ($49)

 

One of my favorite sets in its price range, the VSD1S is a slightly v-shaped earphone that makes a pretty good match for the MOE-SS01 in overall performance. The VSD1S boasts a little more bass impact compared to the MOE and sounds warmer overall. The SS01 is leaner and cooler in tone but still has excellent bass presence. The earphones have similarly excellent clarity. Like most VSonics, however, the VSD1S tends to amplify sibilance. The SS01, on the other hand, is far less prone to exaggerating sibilance but sounds a little harsher in general. The SS01 also appears a touch more congested while the VSD1S is more airy and open-sounding. 

 

SteelSeries Flux In-Ear ($50)

 

The Flux is another of my favorite budget-friendly in-ears and again tends to be a touch v-shaped, making it a good competitor for the SS01. The Flux has similar bass impact but boasts a touch more sub-bass weight in comparison, making the SS01 sound a little more “hollow”, or lacking footing, in the bass region. The mids of the Flux, on the other hand, are more recessed and sound veiled as a result. The SS01 is significantly clearer, but also tends to sound thinner. The added treble of the brighter SS01 also makes it harsher overall whereas the Flux by and large remains smooth, if a little grainy and unexciting. 

 

Philips Fidelio S1 ($95)

 

The Philips Fidelio S1 is one of several reasonably well-balanced earphones in the sub-$100 price bracket. Like the SS01, the Fidelio S1 boasts enhanced bass and prominent, crisp upper mids and treble. As with the SteelSeries Flux, the Philips earphones boast a touch more sub-bass weight compared to the MOE, sounding more solid when it comes to bass punch. Tonally, the Philips earphones are warmer, with mids that appear a bit fuller and smoother. The MOE-SS01 is brighter and harsher and sounds a little less natural overall in terms of tone and timbre but easily keeps up in clarity and detail, which is impressive. The presentations tend to be similar, with pretty good width and average depth.

 

HiFiMan RE-400 ($99)

 

The RE-400 and MOE-SS01 are two very different takes on near-neutral sound. Despite having less bass presence, the RE-400 is warmer, sounding more mid-centric overall. Its treble is smoother and more refined. The SS01, on the other hand, tends to be more v-shaped in signature—it is bassier but also brighter compared to the RE-400. The added treble can make it sound harsh next to the HiFiMan set, but also allows it to appear clearer at times. The smoother RE-400 tends to sound more natural through the treble region but lacks the striking clarity of the MOE. 

 

Value (9/10) – The MOE-SS01 is a dual dynamic earphone with a slightly cool tonal tilt and great clarity. There is a bit of treble harshness but for the price the performance leaves almost nothing to complain about – the SS01 can compete with the best sets in its price tier and beyond. Sound quality aside, the SS01 also boasts a nice construction with an excellent, low-noise cable and is surprisingly comfortable thanks to its light weight. Call me crazy but I don't mind the look of it, either – at the very least I won't mistake this earphone for anything else in my collection. For fans of clear, punchy earphones, the SS01 is nothing short of an excellent buy.

 

Pros: Fantastic clarity, great bass quality; low cable noise

Cons: Large footprint may not be comfortable for those with small ears

 

The ranking table has been updated here.

post #12324 of 14059

hi joker, is there any chance for you to review entry-level ciems such as um mage, jh5, jh7, um aero, rooth, cosmic ears?

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Originally Posted by suman134 View Post
 

   big help man ,  but have you heard klipsch imave x7i ?

I will step away from it......

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Originally Posted by Shawn71 View Post
 

I will step away from it......

 

     you wanna say they are not good ? dis you had an encounter with these ? whats you say about these ?

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Just for sharing.

I found below IEMs are not so good when pairing with portable amp. like Tralucent TI:

 

1) Shure SE215 ($99): Less detail and poor sound stage comparing to DT880
 

2) Hisound Audio PAA-1 ($20) Too much texture (rough sounding) and too bright (ear fatigue) comparing to DT800

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Originally Posted by suman134 View Post
 

     you wanna say they are not good ? dis you had an encounter with these ? whats you say about these ?

 

Well, there are lot better model IEMs available with the same price tag of X7i. The other ones you requested Joker are reasonably priced for their build and SQ,accessories etc.

 

I had S4 and S5i Rugged and they are good but not that good for that price.Fit wise Klipsch's oval tips and nozzle(comfort insertion) are stellar. If it's on sale for $45-$55 I'll take a bite.

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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post
 

Sound-wise for me the S2 is the least fatiguing, followed closely by the GR07 and DBA-02. But like modulor said if listening fatigue is a big consideration, a less bright earphone like the RE-400 might be worth looking at.

 

I find the DBA-02 mkII the most comfortable, then the GR07, then the DBA-02 mkI, and then the S2, partly because I prefer over-the-ear to cable-down.

 

I would like your opinion in term of detail/micro detail, sound stage/3D imaging, smoothness, bass amount, treble (ear fatigue) for below IEMs:
 
1) Fischer Audio DBA-02MKII ($195)
2) Heir 3.Ai ($299)
3) LogitechUE 900 ($299)
 
Which is a better pick?
post #12330 of 14059
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Originally Posted by Shawn71 View Post
 

 

Well, there are lot better model IEMs available with the same price tag of X7i. The other ones you requested Joker are reasonably priced for their build and SQ,accessories etc.

 

I had S4 and S5i Rugged and they are good but not that good for that price.Fit wise Klipsch's oval tips and nozzle(comfort insertion) are stellar. If it's on sale for $45-$55 I'll take a bite.

 

    thanks man , i think i should stick to ei800/ fidelio s1 / rha ma750 .

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