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Originally Posted by Gasdoc View Post

Translation of above: the jh13 is awesome.

 

Thanks for the clarification wink.gif

 

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I'm rather blown away at $17. Weirdly enough, i'm enjoying them more out of my amp than my iphone. I'm liking them a lot more than anything i've purchased in this price range in the past - although i suspect i will eventually have to get some M1HC, but i don't think those are available at the same price as the midtowns. I'm seriously thinking about trying the uptowns as well.

 

The MH1C is slightly better but - although it seems to be in the same price range from where I'm sitting with my RE-600 - it's actually more than 2x the current price of the PNYs...

 

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Maybe I missed it but could you compare the Miracle to the 8.a? Just a quick overview, no need to waste your time with a thorough description. I was only wondering because on paper, the 8.a actually appealed to me more but I couldn't justify the extra ~$400. Thanks!

 

Their sound signatures are actually very different but I did happen to compare the two. The 8.A had a more intimate presentation, a lot more bass (especially midbass) with greater impact, and an overall tone that's warmer and darker compared to the Miracle. The Miracle's signature seems slightly v-shaped next to the 8.A. It has a lot less bass, a wider soundstage, thinner note presentation, and more treble energy/sparkle. On the whole, I felt that the Miracle was more neutral and a touch clearer than the 8.A. Honestly, I don't think they are direct competitors - it's sort of like comparing the Earsonics SM3 to an Ety ER4. 

 

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Hey Joker,

I know you probably get it a lot, but I just wanted to thank you for all the hard work you put into your reviews and on HF in general. I feel it is very helpful & informative to newcomers like me and those with more experience alike.

I saw on your Buyer's Guide that you were going to review the VC1000 and VSD1/1S next. I was wondering if you had an idea of when you are going to review the SHE3580(90) and the S1/S2 in your priority of your upcoming to-be-reviewed list. If not, it's cool.

Also, I was curious if you had read or even heard anything about the new dynamic Astrotec AM-700...? I'm in the US and there are a few foreign websites that have some manufacturer material on them using Google Translate. The only place that has them right now is MP4 Nation that I can find. At $47 they are between the AM-90 and AM-800 in price($7 more and $1 less than the latter). I really like my AM-90 and it's build quality/comfort. The design on both of them looks great in my opinion. That cable is so nice! I like me some good bass--as they are marketed--with good clarity as well. I was thinking about ordering them and seeing what they're like. Do you think they'll be of good value? And I wonder how they compare to the two previously mentioned Astrotecs...

Here's a visual:


Thanks, glad the thread has been useful!

 

The SHE3580 is a pretty low priority TBH. There's already a pretty long thread on it and it looks like it's been discontinued in favor of the 3590, which I don't have. The S1/S2 are a higher priority and will get done most likely next month. 

 

I hadn't heard of the AM-700 before reading your post but it seems like price difference between that and the AM-800 is negligible. The AM-800 is a pretty great earphone, so I would probably just get that instead of grabbing the AM-700 blind. It'd be a good complement to the AM-90.

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waiting for jh13 and jh16 reviews and placings in the comprasion  table 

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I guess it’ll really depend on what’s available to you. IMO you don’t have to spend $300 to get IE8 (I haven’t heard the IE80) – level performance these days. You can just go for the $150 Yamaha EPH-100 (which may or may not be available to you) instead. Coincidentally, the EPH-100 sounds pretty darn great with pop and trance so I would definitely recommend. If you are limited to specific models, however, you may want to figure out which ones those are and post the list here so we can help you find the best of those options.


hello again

I hope your heard sennheizer momentum beacause I can buy it here easyly.if yes,can you tell me how it sounds in compare to weston 4.

thanks:)
post #11239 of 14150
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Originally Posted by listen4joy View Post

waiting for jh13 and jh16 reviews and placings in the comprasion  table 

 

Sorry, no JH16, but the JH13 will be added in due time.

 

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hello again

I hope your heard sennheizer momentum beacause I can buy it here easyly.if yes,can you tell me how it sounds in compare to weston 4.

thanks:)


I have not heard the Momentum. 

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IjokerI thank you for your work, I wish you a lot of patience to answer all the questions.

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@ljokerl

Nice! Seeing the planned reviews section, here's looking forward to what you've got to say about the UE 700 and TripleFi10 despite both being discontinued especially with your extensive experience in comparison with all the IEMs in this database.  Brands left and right are cranking their own version of the Knowles TWFK armature iems that it's good to see/hear how they tuned them differently to their accord. Can't wait.

 

OT: Still no word on the M-100 and the Momentum review over at the portables section? Anyway, kudos!

post #11242 of 14150
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IjokerI thank you for your work, I wish you a lot of patience to answer all the questions.

 

Thanks beerchug.gif

 

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@ljokerl

Nice! Seeing the planned reviews section, here's looking forward to what you've got to say about the UE 700 and TripleFi10 despite both being discontinued especially with your extensive experience in comparison with all the IEMs in this database.  Brands left and right are cranking their own version of the Knowles TWFK armature iems that it's good to see/hear how they tuned them differently to their accord. Can't wait.

 

OT: Still no word on the M-100 and the Momentum review over at the portables section? Anyway, kudos!


Sorry, still no M-100 or Momentum 

post #11243 of 14150
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RBH EP1 - http://rbhsound.com/ep1.php

 

RBH is one of the many home audio manufacturers investing in headphones these days. The build quality of the EP1 is nice, with a metal housing and cloth cable, and makes up for the somewhat lackluster half in-ear design. The earphone sounds quite good, too - the bass is solid but not overbearing. Depth and control are both good. The mids are clear and not recessed. Treble is generally smooth, though some unevenness is noticeable, especially at higher volumes. Overall it might not quite be on-par with the RE-400 or Philips Fidelio S2 but definitely closer to that level than the mid-tier VSonic GR06/Sony MH1C and the like. 

 

Interesting. I bought the EP2 a couple weeks ago after being recommended them by a friend, and found them to be relatively bass-heavy and quite sibilant. Granted, I listen to music relatively high volumes, but I have to ask: assuming the EP1 and EP2 sound the same, what are your preferred tips with these? I generally prefer silicone tips, but didn't like the ones that RBH provided with the 'phones. The Comply tips are what I'm using now, but they did change the sound signature to my ears.

 

I'm just trying to figure out if I'm doing something wrong. That may seem silly, but I do like the design of these babies and want to like their sound, too. More importantly, though, my observations on various IEMs I've tried have often lined up with yours pretty well, which makes me all the more confused now. Any ideas?

post #11244 of 14150

This is great review and very helpful, thank you ljokerl

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Interesting. I bought the EP2 a couple weeks ago after being recommended them by a friend, and found them to be relatively bass-heavy and quite sibilant. Granted, I listen to music relatively high volumes, but I have to ask: assuming the EP1 and EP2 sound the same, what are your preferred tips with these? I generally prefer silicone tips, but didn't like the ones that RBH provided with the 'phones. The Comply tips are what I'm using now, but they did change the sound signature to my ears.

 

I'm just trying to figure out if I'm doing something wrong. That may seem silly, but I do like the design of these babies and want to like their sound, too. More importantly, though, my observations on various IEMs I've tried have often lined up with yours pretty well, which makes me all the more confused now. Any ideas?

 

Hmm... I haven't really listened to them in depth but comparing them to the RE-400 right now the highs are a little more harsh. I agree that they are enhanced-bass earphones, probably on-par with the Shure SE215 in bass boost. More importantly, I am not noticing much sibilance. They are somewhere between the silky-smooth RE-400 and the more sibilance-prone VSonic VSD1 that I also have on my desk, but probably closer to the RE-400. I tried turning them up a bit compared to how I normally listen, though I still wouldn't call that "loud", and the treble issues became more noticeable so you might want to try lower volumes. It might also come down in part to the recordings and/or source you're using. 

 

I usually have a bit of trouble getting a perfect seal with half in-ear designs (the fit of the Philips Fidelio S1/S2 took me some time to figure out) but these aren't bad. I don't have the stock tips for them since they are a loaner unit so I'm using some narrow-channel single-flanges. I believe they are from a MEElec A151 or from a Rock-It Sounds earphone. 

 

And, I don't know if the EP1 and EP2 sound the same. While the EP1 does sound better than 90% of the earphones I set aside, I still don't think it's a great value and probably won't bother reviewing it in full. 

 

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This is great review and very helpful, thank you ljokerl


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Hmm...the EP2 is, from what I've read and can tell, simply the EP1 with a universal microphone and a slightly different cosmetic look. That said, I suspect my higher listening volume and the Comply tips are affecting the sound, then. At the very least, I remember the bass being less pronounced with the stock silicone tips; can't remember the treble differences. I've misplaced those tips, in any case, so I can't check for sure (careless, I know). I'll probably try some other silicone tips from my other 'phones to see if they help before deciding whether get rid of them.

 

Anyway, thanks for the reply! smile.gif

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Hmm...the EP2 is, from what I've read and can tell, simply the EP1 with a universal microphone and a slightly different cosmetic look. That said, I suspect my higher listening volume and the Comply tips are affecting the sound, then. At the very least, I remember the bass being less pronounced with the stock silicone tips; can't remember the treble differences. I've misplaced those tips, in any case, so I can't check for sure (careless, I know). I'll probably try some other silicone tips from my other 'phones to see if they help before deciding whether get rid of them.

 

Anyway, thanks for the reply! smile.gif


Maybe also try giving them some more time. The unit I have is a loaner so I have no idea how many hours are on it.

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I think after the A161P the GR06 might sound a bit congested but who knows, you may like it. If not, try the LG Quadbeat. Bass is somewhere between the N3i and A161P in quantity but more importantly it's got a wide sound that makes even the A161P sound a little closed-in. I think you might like it, and it's cheap enough to replace should anything go wrong. 

Hi Joker,

 

Thank you for your response.

 

GR06 came and although I was really impressed with the packaging and general feel I'm not too sure about the sound. I mean it sounds very nice and pleasant, but it lacks character; It's somewhat boring to me. I like the balance it produces but I wish it had more of everything. I spend some hours comparing them to N3i, MEElectronics CW31P, A161P and some stock earphones and to me they are closest to CW31P but noticeably better.

 

At the end I decided to follow your recommendation and ordered LG Quadbeat to see what are they like. I wander how would GR07BE compare to A161P, does it make sense to upgrade from GR06 to them?

 

The real reference for me at the moment are A161P which are by far the best sounding earphones I have access to but I have to admit I very much enjoy N3i in some tracks.

How would you describe sound signature of N3i are they v-shaped?

 

Cheers

Mleko

post #11249 of 14150

This guide - although really useful - has left me really confused. I'm looking for some IEMs for when I'm on my bike, and when I'm out as I prefer not to have my Bose On Ears if I'm not at home. 

 

I had some JVC XX's, which I thought were very good, although a bit lacking in the trebles...

 

So far, Ive got my eyes on the VSonic GR02BE, but now I've also found the Astrotec AM800, MEElectronics SP51, and the RHA MA350 (mainly because I don't have to ship it in, and I get a long 3 year warranty).

 

 

Can anyone help me?

 

(sorry if this should be somewhere else, but I posted it here as  it's relating to this thread, and the other thread I posted in was relating to the GR06 vs GR02)

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