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post #9601 of 14174
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post

I would be careful with the X10 for exercise use - the pair I had split along the seam on the back of the strain relief. 

Thanks for the tip. Still its cheaper to lose the X10 than the IQs

post #9602 of 14174
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View PostI haven't reviewed the M4 or R1 and the GR06 isn't the most open-sounding earphone, though it's certainly not bad in that regard. If Sony sets are available to you and reasonably-priced, you would probably like the EX300 or EX500.

thanks for one more option. sony are available at my place. EX300 is in my range but as per your review, it does have more wide & open sound but at the cost of some clarity & crispness than E10 and e30 is slightly more clearer than e10. As you have rated gr06 so high & even if it has similar or slightly more open & airy sound than e30 with more clarity, then i guess i'll go with gr06. even a slight upgrade would do as i am moving up the ladder of sound gradually enjoying each n every slightest of the updates trying different signatures & understanding them rather than be straight on tophappy_face1.gif. many thanks for such a huge list of reviews and detailed info on most of the iems smile.gif

post #9603 of 14174
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Originally Posted by saurabh View Post

thanks for one more option. sony are available at my place. EX300 is in my range but as per your review, it does have more wide & open sound but at the cost of some clarity & crispness than E10 and e30 is slightly more clearer than e10. As you have rated gr06 so high & even if it has similar or slightly more open & airy sound than e30 with more clarity, then i guess i'll go with gr06. even a slight upgrade would do as i am moving up the ladder of sound gradually enjoying each n every slightest of the updates trying different signatures & understanding them rather than be straight on tophappy_face1.gif. many thanks for such a huge list of reviews and detailed info on most of the iems smile.gif

 

         best way to move up the ladder .

post #9604 of 14174

After spending a little bit more time with RE262s, I can say the mids are amazing but there is a constant feeling of shallowness mostly due the anemic bass. While sub bass is clearly audible, anything below 50hz suddenly just blends with the mids leaving some songs that have a very prominent bassline feeling incomplete. I've read many reviews stating that they are able to feel this bass and that it has good impact but I'm just not feeling it. Note, I have yet to burn them in (if it really does anything :P) and I am using an E6 (considering to upgrade to E11), but are the RE262s supposed to be like this?

 

I will admit though, this impression might be a side effect of spending the past couple of months with quite a bass heavy IEM in comparison...


Edited by thesuperguy - 2/24/13 at 9:58am
post #9605 of 14174
Hi again ljokerl, i think i have boiled down my list a bit, but i need some help choosing. What would choose pf the following: UE 900, SE535, Westone 3/4 or the MTPC's? Maybe you have other recommendations?

I'm gonna use my Galaxy Nexus or Ipad as a source, with 320kbps mp3 files :-)
post #9606 of 14174
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post

The IE 800 has some strange ringing in the treble, there's a lot of treble energy and slow decay. The treble actually sounds brighter and more splashy than that of my IQ.

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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post

That's pretty typical of dynamic drivers to be honest. The IE 800 does the same and the K3003 is somewhat more extended but still not completely linear. 

 

Just a heads-up, assuming from your description that the IE800 is the same that Tyll measured, you guys may possibly have a defective pair.

 

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Originally Posted by Kaffeemann View Post

Guys, did you take a look at the Inner Fidelity measurements?

 

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserIE800.pdf

 

Looks like Tyll got a defective pair.
 

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Originally Posted by james444 View Post

 

X2, doesn't remotely look like what I'm hearing from my pair.

 

Rin's preliminary graph is much closer to the truth, except for the usual mids suck-out from diffuse-field EQ (that I consistently fail to hear that way, but that's another story)

post #9607 of 14174
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by thesuperguy View Post

After spending a little bit more time with RE262s, I can say the mids are amazing but there is a constant feeling of shallowness mostly due the anemic bass. While sub bass is clearly audible, anything below 50hz suddenly just blends with the mids leaving some songs that have a very prominent bassline feeling incomplete. I've read many reviews stating that they are able to feel this bass and that it has good impact but I'm just not feeling it. Note, I have yet to burn them in (if it really does anything :P) and I am using an E6 (considering to upgrade to E11), but are the RE262s supposed to be like this?

 

I will admit though, this impression might be a side effect of spending the past couple of months with quite a bass heavy IEM in comparison...

 

No, that never goes away. The bass is extended but never all that punchy, especially if you are used to bassier earphones. 

 

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Originally Posted by kristianflindt View Post

Hi again ljokerl, i think i have boiled down my list a bit, but i need some help choosing. What would choose pf the following: UE 900, SE535, Westone 3/4 or the MTPC's? Maybe you have other recommendations?

I'm gonna use my Galaxy Nexus or Ipad as a source, with 320kbps mp3 files :-)

 

If it were me I would choose the UE900 or W4.

 

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Originally Posted by james444 View Post

 

Just a heads-up, assuming from your description that the IE800 is the same that Tyll measured, you guys may possibly have a defective pair.

 


It's the same pair. I'll see if I can convince him that it's defective. I haven't seen the graphs but the treble doesn't sound great. 

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Thread Starter 

Added VSonic VC02. 3rd post of the thread is broken but that's okay. 

 

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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post

(3A77) VSonic VC02
 

Reviewed Feb 2013


Details: Dynamic microdriver earphone from VSonic
Current Price: $40 from lendmeurears.com (MSRP: est. $40)
Specs: Driver: Dynamic | Imp: 16Ω | Sens: 100 dB | Freq: 10-25k Hz | Cable: 4.3' L-plug
Nozzle Size: 4mm | Preferred tips: Stock single-flanges
Wear Style: Straight down or over-the-ear

Accessories (3/5) - Single-flange (3 sizes), hybrid-style (7 sizes), and bi-flange silicone tips; shirt clip, drawstring carrying pouch
Build Quality (4/5) – The VC02’s form factor is of the slim, straight-barrel variety. The construction is very similar to that of the pricier GR01, albeit with detachable cables and fixed nozzles. The cable is smooth but on the thin side and lacks a sliding cinch. It utilizes a conventional 2-pin socket, though it detaches a little more easily than I’d have liked. A bump on the inside of the right strain relief differentiates the left and right connectors.
Isolation (4/5) – Similar to the pricier GR06 and GR07 models
Microphonics (4/5) - Cable noise is bothersome when worn cable-down but becomes low with over-the-ear wear
Comfort (4.5/5) - The housings are very slim and easy to insert deeply for a good seal. The sheer variety of included eartips should allow the fit to work for anyone, though earphones with slimmer nozzles provide more fitment options still. The cable exits at an angle so those with smaller ears may have trouble wearing the VC02 cable-up

Sound (8.1/10) – The VC02 is undoubtedly the most balanced sub-$100 model I’ve heard from VSonic thus far. It pursues an accurate, uncolored sound that continuously impresses with its crispness and clarity. The low end of the VC02 is tight and punchy, though fans of enhanced bass will be disappointed by its linear nature. The impact is slightly greater compared to the HiFiMan RE0 but not at the level of VSonic’s GR06 model. Bass depth is good and bass detail and texture are excellent due to the lack of mid-bass bloat – easily among the best I’ve heard in the sub-$100 range.

The mids are clean and crisp. Midrange presence is excellent, with no recession but also less warmth and thickness compared to sets that would normally be considered “balanced” in the budget realm, such as the Brainwavz M1 and Monoprice 8320. The VC02 is clearer than these, and clearer also than the armature-based Rock-It Sounds R-30, falling just behind the far more expensive HiFiMan RE-ZERO and MEElec A161P. It is slightly thin-sounding and the tonality is on the cool side, which will still make the GR06 a better choice for some listeners.

The top end of the VC02 is extended and just as crisp as the rest of the signature, but still has some of the slightly hot character that all higher-end VSonic dynamics seem to share. It is a little less sibilant than my GR07 mkI but still doesn’t quite have the refinement of HiFiMan’s dynamic-driver earphones. The presentation is spacious but not particularly enveloping – the GR07 and GR06 both seem to present a more well-rounded sonic image. Soundstage width is good, however, and the balanced, clear sound leaves no room for any sort of congestion. In fact, the VC02 makes the armature-based Rock-It R-30 sound a little congested and vague when it comes to imaging. All in all, it has nothing to be ashamed of for the price. It may be worth noting the lower-than-average sensitivity of the VC02, which will leave those who gauge sound quality by volume level wanting.

Value (10/10) – I wrote and scrapped this section several times trying to convey the scope of the VC02’s brilliance. While VSonic’s GR-series earphones have simply been at the top of their game, the VC02 seems to transcend competing altogether. I have a few nitpicks but there’s so much more to like. I like the detachable cables with the common 2-pin connector – something I haven’t seen on a budget earphone since Altec Lansing stopped selling UE models at huge discounts. I like the tiny 3mm dynamic driver, the slim form factor, and the resulting comfort and noise isolation. I like the fact that VSonic includes a ton of tips despite the small sizing gaps between them. And I especially like fact that the VC02 boasts what has to be the clearest, tightest, and most detailed sound this side of the HiFiMan RE0 – a model that was originally considered well-priced at $239 and remained a Head-Fi favorite for years. The VC02 does all that at an astonishingly low price point. Enough said.

Pros: Small, lightweight, and comfortable; very balanced and articulate sound
Cons: Lacks cable cinch; detachable cables can come off too easily

 


Edited by ljokerl - 2/25/13 at 5:32pm
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Superb review Joker, the VC02 sound like something magical especially for it's price point. As always your reviews always makes me want to purchase headphones, i placed a order on the Vsonic VC02 on ebay. My wallet hates you very much^^ I hope your happy :)

post #9610 of 14174
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Originally Posted by phantompersona View Post

Superb review Joker, the VC02 sound like something magical especially for it's price point. As always your reviews always makes me want to purchase headphones, i placed a order on the Vsonic VC02 on ebay. My wallet hates you very much^^ I hope your happy :)

 

x2

 

I had to remind myself that I still had to pay this month's electricity bill.

 

Careful, joker. If you keep giving these Vsonic phones such high ratings, you may get labelled as a fan boy/man

post #9611 of 14174
I concur even though I rated the GR02 BE a hair higher because I do like my bass a little deeper and punchier, I have been enjoying the heck out the VC02 because of its awesome clarity. I like better than the RE0. GR02 BE is just a bit more fun.
post #9612 of 14174

ljokerl I tried linking to one of the posts on the 1st page...it wasn't there?

 

Oh, also first post here, love this thread - indescribably immense work, invaluable resource. I link it to all my non-head-fi friends and they love it as well. Probably the greatest thread on this site.

post #9613 of 14174

nice review on the VC02 - Ah micro-drivers FTW

 

Hope the next one is the MH1c! 

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Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by phantompersona View Post

Superb review Joker, the VC02 sound like something magical especially for it's price point. As always your reviews always makes me want to purchase headphones, i placed a order on the Vsonic VC02 on ebay. My wallet hates you very much^^ I hope your happy :)

 

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I was pretty surprised by the performance (especially clarity) gap between the VC02 and some of my favorite entry-level monitors - sets like the Monoprice 8320, Brainwavz M1, and Astrotec AM-90, which all still sound very decent to me on their own.

 

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Originally Posted by eke2k6 View Post

 

x2

 

I had to remind myself that I still had to pay this month's electricity bill.

 

Careful, joker. If you keep giving these Vsonic phones such high ratings, you may get labelled as a fan boy/man

 

I may just start avoiding VSonic IEMs altogether so that I don't have to re-scale the whole damn thread. 

 

 

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Originally Posted by TwinQY View Post

ljokerl I tried linking to one of the posts on the 1st page...it wasn't there?

 

Oh, also first post here, love this thread - indescribably immense work, invaluable resource. I link it to all my non-head-fi friends and they love it as well. Probably the greatest thread on this site.

 

 

There is a problem with one of the posts. I think I may have hit a per-post character/image/word cap of some kind. I posted in a bug report thread so hopefully it will get fixed before long.

 

 

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Originally Posted by facilitator View Post

nice review on the VC02 - Ah micro-drivers FTW

 

Hope the next one is the MH1c! 


Not next... but soon (hopefully)

post #9615 of 14174

Rice review of the VC02, Vsonic and other companies SHOULD pay you consultation fees for your recommendations. (LOL just kidding)
I'm a fan of good low end iems and VC02's is the best I've tried and had under $100 to my ears its better than GR06 even if GR06 has more bass.
If I may ask, how long did you burn them in before making this review? others said that it sounded better after 300hours.  

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