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post #12826 of 14181
Joker please can you help me...

Can you reccomend a succesor to my Hippo VB? I'm on my second pair now but would like to move up a notch, circa £200 budget. I use my Hippo VB with the bassiest plate, so am looking for an IEM which really bangs hard on the lows similarly but also has better clarity/resolution/separation as my needs from an IEM progress and I grow more demanding of SQ.

My most expensive headphones to date have been the Sennheiser IE80, they didnt go as low as my Hippo VB and had that midbass hump Im not accustomed to from a V-shape profile Ive become accustomed to, but I did appreciate the better overall SQ. Ultimately however I sold them and stuck with the Hippo.

Any other suggestions I can research/try? My main genre is techno and house plus electronic acts such as Underworld, Chemical Brothers, Prodigy etc.

Thanks in advance :-)

Suggestions from Headfi have been Sony XB90EX, Denon C300, JVC FX200, JVC F700.
post #12827 of 14181

Etymotic Er4s is good for classical music.

post #12828 of 14181
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Originally Posted by docked seaman View Post
 

what iems do you reccomend for classical music (any price range) ?   thanks

 

      re-400 .

post #12829 of 14181

Joker,

 

I have a question for you....

 

I bought, enjoyed, but ultimately sold my UE TF10's due to an inability to wear them anywhere else than sitting at my computer due to fit issues. I plunged in the UE pool again when there was a sale on UE900's figuring that the ergonomics were superior and the fit issues inherent in the TF10's would not replicate themselves. I guess I have really big canals as I struggle to get a consistent seal with even the biggest tips - no issues when stationary, but try to wear outside and move around? You get the idea.

 

My question is whether a re-shell would be the way to go cost-wise and sound-wise - I only have $200 in on these and Fisher Hearing can mold them for around $110 shipped - but is there a straight custom for around the same $$ (or a hundred or so more) that you think would outperform a pair of re-shelled UE900's?

 

Or would trying to replicate the sound I could expect from the 4BA custom version of the UE900 necessitate a larger investment in a straight custom? (or nothing that cheap will beat the UE so an investment of $500++ would be required)

 

I owned a couple of sets of Heir CIEMS and loved the feel of a custom - they were the best fit of any headphone I have ever owned and if a couple of unforeseen bills hadn't cropped up, I would still own them.

 

Sorry for being so wordy - congrats on 300!

post #12830 of 14181
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Originally Posted by Ivabign View Post
 

Joker,

 

I have a question for you....

 

I bought, enjoyed, but ultimately sold my UE TF10's due to an inability to wear them anywhere else than sitting at my computer due to fit issues. I plunged in the UE pool again when there was a sale on UE900's figuring that the ergonomics were superior and the fit issues inherent in the TF10's would not replicate themselves. I guess I have really big canals as I struggle to get a consistent seal with even the biggest tips - no issues when stationary, but try to wear outside and move around? You get the idea.

 

My question is whether a re-shell would be the way to go cost-wise and sound-wise - I only have $200 in on these and Fisher Hearing can mold them for around $110 shipped - but is there a straight custom for around the same $$ (or a hundred or so more) that you think would outperform a pair of re-shelled UE900's?

 

Or would trying to replicate the sound I could expect from the 4BA custom version of the UE900 necessitate a larger investment in a straight custom? (or nothing that cheap will beat the UE so an investment of $500++ would be required)

 

I owned a couple of sets of Heir CIEMS and loved the feel of a custom - they were the best fit of any headphone I have ever owned and if a couple of unforeseen bills hadn't cropped up, I would still own them.

 

Sorry for being so wordy - congrats on 300!


Thought about custom tips for them instead of a reshell?  As far as I know no one's done a ue900 yet.

post #12831 of 14181
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Originally Posted by davidcotton View Post
 


Thought about custom tips for them instead of a reshell?  As far as I know no one's done a ue900 yet.

I corresponded with Fisher re: UE900 and they stated they could keep the MMX connectors (unsure if that is a plus or not) but they didn't seem to have an issue with a re-shell. I wondered about tips, but worry that they would be unwieldy - that is, sit way outside my ear and get in the way of glasses, hats, hair, etc....

post #12832 of 14181
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Originally Posted by oHUTCHYo View Post

Joker please can you help me...

Can you reccomend a succesor to my Hippo VB? I'm on my second pair now but would like to move up a notch, circa £200 budget. I use my Hippo VB with the bassiest plate, so am looking for an IEM which really bangs hard on the lows similarly but also has better clarity/resolution/separation as my needs from an IEM progress and I grow more demanding of SQ.

My most expensive headphones to date have been the Sennheiser IE80, they didnt go as low as my Hippo VB and had that midbass hump Im not accustomed to from a V-shape profile Ive become accustomed to, but I did appreciate the better overall SQ. Ultimately however I sold them and stuck with the Hippo.

Any other suggestions I can research/try? My main genre is techno and house plus electronic acts such as Underworld, Chemical Brothers, Prodigy etc.

Thanks in advance :-)

Suggestions from Headfi have been Sony XB90EX, Denon C300, JVC FX200, JVC F700.

 

    im not joker but i have a xb90ex and had auditioned c300 , c300 is 4 times pricy here , 90ex being $60 c300 is like $240 in india , c300 has better sq for sure and has more rumble in bass , a bit faster decay but 90ex is a true budget bass headphones and c300 is a grown version of 90ex , not a huge improvement over in the department of bass but not bad , amazon uk have them for 65 pounds , for that price if you can handle that huge profile ( bigger then 90es from every angle ) go for c300 , they have in-built iphone controller too .

post #12833 of 14181
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by starfly View Post
 

 

Thanks! I went ahead and ordered the RE-400. I did contact Shure for a trade-in, but they said I would first have to send in the SE530 and they couldn't tell me beforehand if they would just fix it or then offer me to buy a new SE535 at a discounted price; in other words, too much hassle for me. And the discounted SE535 probably still couldn't beat the RE-400 in terms of price.

 

Edit: I also ordered the Yamaha EPH-100, will see which one I like more. Perhaps I might like the Yammie, to contrast my full-size Sony 7520 cans.

 

Probably not in terms of price - I would think they'd provide 50% off at most. 

 

Hope you like the RE-400 and I would be curious if you get on well with the EPH-100 - it's a pretty different sound. 

 

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Originally Posted by Chude Mleko View Post
 

Thanks ljokerl,

 

I think I'll try next one of these then: VC1000, Ety HF2 or ER-4PT (thanks Francisk). The latter is probably a bit too expensive for me. Have you compared HF2 and VC1000 before?

 

The reason I recommended the GR01 over the VC1000 is that it's smoother and a little warmer in tone. 

 

The HF2 is flatter through the upper midrange than the VC1000 which IMO gives it slightly better clarity but it also sounds more "thin". The VC1000 has a bit more full-bodied sound (especially bass) but sounds a little brighter/more splashy in the treble region.

 

By the way there's an S1/VC1000 comparison in the VC1000 review - might be useful: http://theheadphonelist.com/headphone_review/vsonic-vc1000/

 

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Originally Posted by docked seaman View Post
 

what iems do you reccomend for classical music (any price range) ?   thanks

 

See previous page: http://www.head-fi.org/t/478568/multi-iem-review-309-iems-compared-ces-impressions-part-4-added-01-27-14-p-852/12810#post_10227049  . If you want to go up in price I recommend the Noble 4S.

 

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Originally Posted by oHUTCHYo View Post

Joker please can you help me...

Can you reccomend a succesor to my Hippo VB? I'm on my second pair now but would like to move up a notch, circa £200 budget. I use my Hippo VB with the bassiest plate, so am looking for an IEM which really bangs hard on the lows similarly but also has better clarity/resolution/separation as my needs from an IEM progress and I grow more demanding of SQ.

My most expensive headphones to date have been the Sennheiser IE80, they didnt go as low as my Hippo VB and had that midbass hump Im not accustomed to from a V-shape profile Ive become accustomed to, but I did appreciate the better overall SQ. Ultimately however I sold them and stuck with the Hippo.

Any other suggestions I can research/try? My main genre is techno and house plus electronic acts such as Underworld, Chemical Brothers, Prodigy etc.

Thanks in advance :-)

Suggestions from Headfi have been Sony XB90EX, Denon C300, JVC FX200, JVC F700.

 

I haven't tried the sets you've been recommended except for the FX700. When I had it I thought it lost out to the FutureSonics Atrio for what you're after. The EPH-100 from Yamaha might be one to consider but I haven't heard the VB in a while so I'm not sure if its max setting had more subbass than the EPH-100 or not. The most (sub) bassy IEM I've tried is the Wooduo2 but I wouldn't call it an upgrade over the VB.

 

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Originally Posted by Ivabign View Post
 

Joker,

 

I have a question for you....

 

I bought, enjoyed, but ultimately sold my UE TF10's due to an inability to wear them anywhere else than sitting at my computer due to fit issues. I plunged in the UE pool again when there was a sale on UE900's figuring that the ergonomics were superior and the fit issues inherent in the TF10's would not replicate themselves. I guess I have really big canals as I struggle to get a consistent seal with even the biggest tips - no issues when stationary, but try to wear outside and move around? You get the idea.

 

My question is whether a re-shell would be the way to go cost-wise and sound-wise - I only have $200 in on these and Fisher Hearing can mold them for around $110 shipped - but is there a straight custom for around the same $$ (or a hundred or so more) that you think would outperform a pair of re-shelled UE900's?

 

Or would trying to replicate the sound I could expect from the 4BA custom version of the UE900 necessitate a larger investment in a straight custom? (or nothing that cheap will beat the UE so an investment of $500++ would be required)

 

I owned a couple of sets of Heir CIEMS and loved the feel of a custom - they were the best fit of any headphone I have ever owned and if a couple of unforeseen bills hadn't cropped up, I would still own them.

 

Sorry for being so wordy - congrats on 300!


I haven't heard many cheap customs but I doubt you'll find a better sound with a custom fit for $300-400 if you like the UE900's signature. For an upgrade in the same vein you'd have to go for like a Lime Ears LE3 or something on that level. For all I know there definitely could be something out there that would work for less but my experience with customs is pretty limited.

post #12834 of 14181
Hi Joker. I want to thank you for a great thread and blog. A couple of posts ago you mentioned an in line impedance adaptor. What is this, what does it do for you, and does it affect your ability to use smartphones as a source?
post #12835 of 14181

First of all I wanted to say that this is a great thread and I’m sure a lot of people appreciate Joker’s work.  I was hoping I could get a recommendation for a new IEM.  For the last several years I have been using Etymotic’s ER-6s, which finally died a while ago.  I initially bought Etymotic’s ER-4PTs to replace them, but I found the bass lacking and the overall sound rather sterile.  I’m looking for an IEM with an energetic and lively sound.  I listen to a wide range of music, but especially pop, commercial dance and R&B.  The IEMs would mostly be for commuting and so isolation is very important, especially as I listen at low volumes.  I also want to use them directly from my phone without an amp.  I have tried the Shure SE415s, Westone 4Rs and Klipsch x10s.  I didn’t like the fit of the Shures and wasn’t blown away by the sound, found the Westone’s too smooth (like there was a veil) and there was something about the bass with the x10s I didn’t like.  Does anyone have any other suggestions?  Many thanks

post #12836 of 14181
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Originally Posted by lolhart View Post
 

First of all I wanted to say that this is a great thread and I’m sure a lot of people appreciate Joker’s work.  I was hoping I could get a recommendation for a new IEM.  For the last several years I have been using Etymotic’s ER-6s, which finally died a while ago.  I initially bought Etymotic’s ER-4PTs to replace them, but I found the bass lacking and the overall sound rather sterile.  I’m looking for an IEM with an energetic and lively sound.  I listen to a wide range of music, but especially pop, commercial dance and R&B.  The IEMs would mostly be for commuting and so isolation is very important, especially as I listen at low volumes.  I also want to use them directly from my phone without an amp.  I have tried the Shure SE415s, Westone 4Rs and Klipsch x10s.  I didn’t like the fit of the Shures and wasn’t blown away by the sound, found the Westone’s too smooth (like there was a veil) and there was something about the bass with the x10s I didn’t like.  Does anyone have any other suggestions?  Many thanks

 

If you're in EU it's rather easy to try the FA-4E from Thomann. 

post #12837 of 14181
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Originally Posted by lolhart View Post
 

First of all I wanted to say that this is a great thread and I’m sure a lot of people appreciate Joker’s work.  I was hoping I could get a recommendation for a new IEM.  For the last several years I have been using Etymotic’s ER-6s, which finally died a while ago.  I initially bought Etymotic’s ER-4PTs to replace them, but I found the bass lacking and the overall sound rather sterile.  I’m looking for an IEM with an energetic and lively sound.  I listen to a wide range of music, but especially pop, commercial dance and R&B.  The IEMs would mostly be for commuting and so isolation is very important, especially as I listen at low volumes.  I also want to use them directly from my phone without an amp.  I have tried the Shure SE415s, Westone 4Rs and Klipsch x10s.  I didn’t like the fit of the Shures and wasn’t blown away by the sound, found the Westone’s too smooth (like there was a veil) and there was something about the bass with the x10s I didn’t like.  Does anyone have any other suggestions?  Many thanks


ue-900 may be .

post #12838 of 14181

Thank you for all the responses.

 

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Originally Posted by MoonYeol View Post
 

 

If you're in EU it's rather easy to try the FA-4E from Thomann. 

 

I've briefly read some of the articles on head-fi and these sound interesting.  However, I'm a bit nervous about buying them blind at that price.  How is the isolation on the FA-4Es?

 

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Originally Posted by suman134 View Post
 


ue-900 may be .

 

I was going to give these a try, but I've read a couple of comments that the bass is somewhat lacking.

post #12839 of 14181
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post
 

 

Probably not in terms of price - I would think they'd provide 50% off at most. 

 

Hope you like the RE-400 and I would be curious if you get on well with the EPH-100 - it's a pretty different sound. 

 

 

So in what way do the RE-400 and EPH-100 differ exactly? I haven't read a direct comparison so far.

 

Either way, thanks for your help so far!

post #12840 of 14181

Hi all,

 

Currently have a pair of Sony MH1Cs, they're cheap and cheerful (and sound extremely good for the price). However, there's a problem with the cable somewhere, and they keep cutting out (in addition to being a pain to wear due to the J-split).

 

They sound OK but I'm finding that the bass dominates the overall presentation a little too much. Looking at something that has a similar warmth, but with slightly better balance and detail across the board. Mainly for hip-hop, rap, R&B, with the occasional bit of rock, pop, and acoustic.

 

Budget: anything up to around £150.

Must be durable, extremely comfortable, worn down (not over the ear) and preferably have controls for iOS devices. The MH1Cs also manage to sound quite natural, so I don't want anything that has an artificial veil to them (like some of the poorer models in the Sennheiser range). Also hate the mid-bass hump in IEMs like the Audio Technica CKS70.

 

Was considering the Klipsch Image X10i at £99, however durability is a huge problem, and there are bound to be better choices out there now they're 6+ years old. Similar comfort would be great, though I know it'll be difficult to find. Many recommendations in this thread for the Yamaha EPH-100, but comfort doesn't seem to be quite as good.

 

Any suggestions? Thanks in advance :)

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