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post #12526 of 14186

One more kick of the can, anyone can feel free to chime in...

 

What iems, custom or universal, that has the tonal balance and character of the LCD-3 at these price points...

 

$300

$500

$700

$1100

$1600

post #12527 of 14186

Tried the Westone TruFit tips with my Brainwavz B's and they're good, don't get me wrong, but I didn't quite enjoy them and found them difficult to get a good fit/seal so they're consigned to the back burner for the moment (may self-mod them to see if I can make them more usable for me).

 

The Comply tips that they use are the 100 Series. I've had the T-series before and the B2's came with a set of T-100's which are good but I am wondering whether the Tx-100 versions would be worth the extra cash. They only seem to offer a small wax guard over the standard T-100's.

 

Any opinions on the T Vs the Tx Complys? Main concern is any change in sound from the wax guard. If that's fine, secondary concern would be "apart from the wax guard, what else does my extra money buy me?",

 

Many thanks!

post #12528 of 14186

The filter potentially takes away from the highs. It should do to some small amount but not sure how much.

post #12529 of 14186

Why is it impossible to find Yamaha EPH-100SL ? I mean it seems to be such a shortage of retailers selling themm.. whyyyy!?!?!?! Gah going nuts..

post #12530 of 14186
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Originally Posted by adriano86 View Post
 

Why is it impossible to find Yamaha EPH-100SL ? I mean it seems to be such a shortage of retailers selling themm.. whyyyy!?!?!?! Gah going nuts..


It's not impossible, try Amazon.com

post #12531 of 14186
post #12532 of 14186

So I have had 3 pairs of ue500s break in the past 10 months. Pretty lame imo. When is someone going to a truly durable IEM? Detachable cables are going to be a must for my next purchase.

post #12533 of 14186
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by lamnidae View Post
 

Sorry for taking a while to get back to you, been away without a laptop for the last few days. Thanks for the response & recommendations! Really appreciate it mate.

 

I've had a look into the SD-2 & it does seem rather intriguing based on your review as well as others - certainly a strong contender next to the SE535 SE. It is the priciest option though, so I'm determined to find out how it measures up against the SE535 SE & some of the others before I make a final decision. How would you say it compares to the W4/W4R, as that was an option that I was initially considering? Following some more extensive research, I decided that the bass might not be quite fast & responsive enough for what I'm looking for straight out of the box, along with a lot of comments about it being somewhat 'flat' in a sense & was led to believe I would need an amp to really appreciate it's unique signature.

 

Also, how would you rate those the SD-2 & W4 against higher end custom models such as the 1964EARS V6 & Unique Melody Miracle purely in terms of sound quality since you've tried them as well?

 

Cheers

 

The SD-2 is more balanced than the W4 IMO. Its bass is more level with no real subbass roll-off and no mid-bass lift. I liked the mids on the Westones so I don't think either really has an advantage there. Treble-wise the SD-2 again sounded more linear to me. The W4 maybe a had a little more energy but wasn't as extended.

 

I stopped my A:B between the Miracle and SD-2 short. There really wasn't much of a comparison. The Miracle is much clearer, much more 3-dimensional, and sounded more neutral and more natural. The V6-Stage (the only V6 I've tried) is pretty close to the Miracle.

 

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Happy New year to you too!

Can't believe its only been 4 years since this:

 

to this :

 

Multi-IEM Review - 307 IEMs compared : Portables Reviewerus Prolificus"

Thank god for your long commutes :etysmile: 

 

Thank you from us all Mike!

 

What have been the highlights this year for 'you'? (iems, headphones, music)
 

 

Wow, imagine that :o. I totally don't remember making that comment but it was well-deserved by ClieOS. Never in a million years could I have predicted what my time on Head-Fi would be like. I also vaguely remember a thread I started the day I heard a set of Etys for the first time. That was an eye-opening experience for me :D.

 

Aside from the sets that had redefined (for me) price/performance this year and all of my new favorites (e.g. RE-400, VSD1S, JH13) my highlight this year was finally getting the interactive table off the ground. That's been a long time coming.

 

Happy new year :beerchug:

 

 

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Thanks for your reply and happy new year to you. Alright so I checked out the FXD80 and they seem promising based on your review. They are definately within my price range but can i trust ordering from ebay? I see most of those sellers are based in China so im afraid of cheap pirated copies...

 

Secondly, which would you say would suit me best Yamaha 100-SL or JVC FRD80 ? both has a mic it seems but I wonder if im able to order either of them from manufacturers website or something?

 

I guess i forgot to add that im striving for that full and richness sound so by what I read the Yamaha seem to be the better choice if im not wrong? 

 

Do the Yamahas have a mic version? I thought they didn't. If they do, I still think the EPH-100 fits your requirements better sound-wise. 

 

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Originally Posted by Love Music View Post
 

Happy New Year everyone!

 

Joker,

 

just wondering how the sd-2 compares to the UE900 in terms of mid, highs, soundstage, clarity, imaging and seperation?

 

I thought the SD-2 sounded smoother and had a little more bass impact with similar extension. Its mids are more prominent overall and it sounded more natural to me. Not much technical difference in presentation or overall clarity. The UE900 seemed to have slightly better treble extension and is brighter/has more treble energy but I liked the SD-2 better overall. 

 

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Originally Posted by Solude View Post
 

One more kick of the can, anyone can feel free to chime in...

 

What iems, custom or universal, that has the tonal balance and character of the LCD-3 at these price points...

 

$300

$500

$700

$1100

$1600

 

I personally haven't tried the LCD-3.

post #12534 of 14186
Thread Starter 

Added the RBH EP1/EP2

 

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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post

 

 

(2B25) RBH EP1 / EP2

 

Reviewed December 2013

 

Details: First in-ear earphones from speaker manufacturer RBH

MSRP: $149.00 (manufacturer’s page);  $179.00 for EP2 w/mic & 1-button remote (manufacturer’s page

Current Price: $124 from amazon.com for EP1; $154 from rbhsound.com for EP2

Specs: Driver: Dynamic | Imp: 16Ω | Sens: 101 dB | Freq: 14-18k Hz | Cable: 3.9' I-plug

Nozzle Size: 5mm | Preferred tips: stock Comply foam

Wear Style: Straight down

 

Accessories (3/5) – Single-flange silicone tips (3 sizes), Comply foam eartips (1 pair), shirt clip, and spring-clasp carrying pouch; EP2 model includes 1 extra set of Comply eartips

Build Quality (4.5/5) – The housings are aluminum with plastic nozzles and on the whole feel extremely solid. The design is of the half in-ear type, with long strain reliefs and a cloth-sheathed cable. The cord is not very thick and lacks a sliding cinch but has no tendency to kink and resists tangling rather well. The mic/remote module on the EP2 model is located in the y-split but works quite well regardless

Isolation (3/5) – Despite the half in-ear design, the EP1 isolates well, especially with the included Comply eartips

Microphonics (4.5/5) – The cloth cable of the EP1 is among the least noisy such cables I’ve come across

Comfort (4.5/5) – The shells of the EP1 house large 13mm drivers but are smooth in finish, compact, and lightweight. They fit snugly and securely, and don’t feel bulky in the ear

 

Sound (8.5/10) – The EP1 is the first in-ear earphone from Utah-based speaker experts RBH Sound, a company with a four decade-long history in the manufacture of audio components. The tuning of the RBH EP1 earphones follows an enhanced-bass profile. The low end extends very well, with no sub-bass roll-off, and has good impact thanks to sizeable mid-bass presence. The EP1 is tighter at the low end than, for example, the VSonic VSD1S but more mid-bassy than the rather neutral-sounding Philips Fidelio S2. All in all, the EP1 boasts a warm sound with great underlying bass power.

 

Despite its authoritative bass, the EP1 does not sound mid-recessed as do most earphones with similar bass quantity. Instead, it has strong and very clear mids – noticeably clearer, for example, compared to the VSonic’s VSD1S and SteelSeries Flux, two of my favorite budget IEMs. The EP1 makes the Flux sound downright mid-recessed and is a touch clearer than the similarly-priced RHA MA750 as well, boasting more midrange presence but also a slightly thinner note presentation.

 

Part of the reason for the EP1’s midrange clarity and presence is the lack of upper midrange recession. The prominent upper mids allow the EP1 to sound crisp and clear, but a cut in that region typically tames harshness. The EP1 can be a little harsh as a result – more so, for example, than the Philips Fidelio S2, especially at higher volumes. It is a stark contrast to the smooth and forgiving, but also somewhat dull-sounding, RHA MA750. Happily, the top end of the EP1 is not peaky and dips down towards the upper treble, making the earphones less sibilant than, for example, competing sets from VSonic.

 

The soundstage of the EP1 is about average for an in-ear of this type. It is noticeably more spacious than, for example, the lower-priced SteelSeries Flux but a touch more congested than the more neutral Philips Fidelio S2. On the whole, the RBH earphones have a slightly warm/dark coloration and sound especially good at moderate volumes due to their strong midrange presence and solid bass. At high volumes the earphones can get a little harsh, and it’s worth noting that they do reach higher volumes easily thanks to rather good sensitivity.

 

Select Comparisons

 

Sony MH1C ($60)

 

The street price of this Sony headset has been growing steadily ever since it became popular in audiophile circles for its warm, smooth, and overall capable sound. The sound signature of the EP1 is not all that different from that of the MH1C, which made the Sony set a natural starting-off point for comparisons. Through the bass region the earphones don’t differ much but the mids of the EP1 are more forward and clearer. The MH1C appears more recessed in the midrange and offers up a little less clarity as a result. The EP1 sounds more crisp through the upper midrange and treble regions, though as a result it has a greater tendency towards harshness. The MH1C, on the other hand, sounds smoother and more forgiving, especially at higher volumes. Lastly, the presentation of the EP1 is a touch more spacious, though the MH1C is no slouch in this respect.

 

HiFiMan RE-400 ($99)

 

Though the EP1 is an enhanced-bass earphone and the RE-400 is a balanced one, the HiFiMan set is one of my favorite benchmarks and makes for a good contrast to the EP1. As expected, the RBH earphones boast lots more bass, but focus on the sub-bass region and don’t sound particularly bloated even next to the balanced-sounding RE-400. The HiFiMan set is more mid-focused but the EP1 does not sound mid-recessed in comparison. In fact, its mids actually appear more prominent at times, likely because it has more upper midrange energy than the RE-400. The RE-400, on the other hand, offers up smoother but seemingly more extended treble and has a more neutral overall tone. The RE-400, thanks to its more mid-centric sound, has a slightly more intimate presentation. On the whole, these earphones are different enough to the point that each makes the other sound lacking.

 

Onkyo IE-HF300S ($129)

 

The Onkyo IE-HF300S and RBH EP1 make for an excellent match-up – they fall in the same price bracket and share a similar form factor, and while the Onkyo set has detachable cables, the aluminum housings of the EP1 feel more sturdy in the hand. In sound, too, the earphones are quite evenly matched, though they each have a strong tendency to accentuate the other’s flaws.

 

The RBH EP1 is the bassier earphone of the two, offering especially more presence in the subbass region. The IE-HF300, on the other hand, while far from bass-light, has less low end presence overall and focuses more on mid-bass. This endows it with a warmer tone, though bass control is still quite good, not yielding to the RBH unit. The midrange of the EP1 is more forward and often clearer as a result compared to the IE-HF300. The mids of the Onkyo set are nonetheless not overly recessed and the HF300, with its lower bass quantity and greater treble energy, sounds a bit more balanced overall.

 

Tonally, the EP1 is a little darker. It has a more presence in the upper midrange, which makes it sound more harsh at times, but the Onkyo set has some peaks in the treble that cause it to be more revealing of sibilance. Lastly, the presentation of the HF300 is more to my liking – it is broader and more open. On the whole, these two earphones are certainly very distinct in sound despite being on a similar performance level. More so than with any other matchup I can think of, the set I found preferable here really varied from track to track.

 

VSonic GR07BE ($179)

 

VSonic’s range of GR07 models is getting a bit long in the tooth but for me they remain an excellent showcase for the type of fidelity a good dynamic-driver earphone can achieve. The RBH EP1 is bassier than even the Bass Edition of the GR07, boasting more impact and slam, while the GR07 sounds a little more detailed. The GR07 has more recessed mids whereas the EP1 is more mid-forward and has a bit more upper midrange presence. As a result, the mids of the EP1 can at times appear clearer and more intelligible but both earphones have excellent midrange clarity. The GR07, as is often the case with VSonic earphones, is more sibilant than the EP1, though it also appears to have slightly more extended treble. Overall, I found the GR07BE to be more neutral and balanced than the EP1 despite its more recessed midrange and preferred it in this matchup except for its tendencies towards sibilance.

 

Value (8/10) – The first in-ear model from speaker manufacturer RBH, the EP1 delivers good sound quality and a solid construction. The half in-ear form factor is comfortable and while I am not usually a fan of cloth cables, this one is sturdy and carries little noise. The earphones also isolate well for this type of design with the included Comply eartips. Sonically, the RBH EP1 earphones offer up enhanced bass and strong presence all the way through the upper midrange and are especially enjoyable at low to moderate volumes.

 

Pros: Solid build quality and good wearing comfort; bass-heavy sound with good midrange clarity

Cons: Can get a touch harsh at higher volumes

 

The ranking has been updated here.

post #12535 of 14186
Quick question that might sound a bit insane after all this:

Can you describe how you define impact and slam?
post #12536 of 14186

Hey Guys, i've been in this thread but in the full cup headphone section, i've learned a lot! ended up buying AKG Q701 with amp+dac and soundcard, they are coming next week :D! Now to the point! I recently earned 130$ so since i bought a great system audio for my PC, i really really would love to have a pretty decent IE headphone for outside, running, aireplanes, etc etc. So at first i went straight into the Bose IE2 why? because my dad has those, and they are pretty comfortable, they dont fall! because of the stayhear tips, which is great, now im not an audiophile but they sound good, but for the most important thing here is audio and the fact that they dont fall out while jogging..

 

So i've been searching and apparently bose is like beats lol, just a famouse sucky brand, what headphones do you recommend me to buy, i gotta buy them in like 2 days :/, i saw this RHA MA750I pretty awesome reviews on amazon, but they are not even mention on this guide.. any help given would be much appreciated. 

post #12537 of 14186
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Originally Posted by vwinter View Post

Quick question that might sound a bit insane after all this:

Can you describe how you define impact and slam?

 

I use impact in the conventional sense - pretty much how powerful the bass "punch" is. This is mostly defined by mid-bass quantity. "Slam" is a term I use more loosely but I think it's easier for a non-audio person to understand. It's related to that visceral quality of air being moved in to your ear and is more related to sub-bass quantity.

 

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Originally Posted by Railius View Post
 

Hey Guys, i've been in this thread but in the full cup headphone section, i've learned a lot! ended up buying AKG Q701 with amp+dac and soundcard, they are coming next week :D! Now to the point! I recently earned 130$ so since i bought a great system audio for my PC, i really really would love to have a pretty decent IE headphone for outside, running, aireplanes, etc etc. So at first i went straight into the Bose IE2 why? because my dad has those, and they are pretty comfortable, they dont fall! because of the stayhear tips, which is great, now im not an audiophile but they sound good, but for the most important thing here is audio and the fact that they dont fall out while jogging..

 

So i've been searching and apparently bose is like beats lol, just a famouse sucky brand, what headphones do you recommend me to buy, i gotta buy them in like 2 days :/, i saw this RHA MA750I pretty awesome reviews on amazon, but they are not even mention on this guide.. any help given would be much appreciated. 

 

The IE2 isn't really an in-ear but if you like the way they fit and sound, by all means keep using them. 

 

I haven't had a chance to add the MA750 yet but I quite like it. For example, I recommended it in the InnerFidelity Holiday Gift Guide. I also commented on it a bit here and probably elsewhere. It's a very nice earphone. 

post #12538 of 14186

The IE2 is decent in SQ but really don't sound substantially better than ear pods or PK3. So the big setback is the overprice. Otherwise they're quite nice and I think it's always good to have at least one pair of earbuds. Could save your life if you're close to traffic.

post #12539 of 14186
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post

 

I thought the SD-2 sounded smoother and had a little more bass impact with similar extension. Its mids are more prominent overall and it sounded more natural to me. Not much technical difference in presentation or overall clarity. The UE900 seemed to have slightly better treble extension and is brighter/has more treble energy but I liked the SD-2 better overall. 

 

I see sounds like the iem i'm looking for. I'm kind of on the fence between the sd-2 and the Noble 4 universals, what are the differences between them? They are both at the same price.   

post #12540 of 14186
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post
 

 

I use impact in the conventional sense - pretty much how powerful the bass "punch" is. This is mostly defined by mid-bass quantity. "Slam" is a term I use more loosely but I think it's easier for a non-audio person to understand. It's related to that visceral quality of air being moved in to your ear and is more related to sub-bass quantity.

 

 

The IE2 isn't really an in-ear but if you like the way they fit and sound, by all means keep using them. 

 

I haven't had a chance to add the MA750 yet but I quite like it. For example, I recommended it in the InnerFidelity Holiday Gift Guide. I also commented on it a bit here and probably elsewhere. It's a very nice earphone. 

Damn your right. See what i mean now, I cant find one pair of earphones that suits me though I might buy the Yamaha later on if it really is this good.

It needs to have a mic, so i assume the JVC is my last option?

http://www.dagspris.se/PartDetail.aspx?q=p:5899474


Edited by adriano86 - 1/2/14 at 2:41am
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