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post #11071 of 13438
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Originally Posted by Thr0waway View Post

I just received my Vsonic GR02 Bass Edition and I really enjoy them. However, when the plug is moved I hear a static sound. How worried should I be?

Edit: to add on to this when I move the plug while listening to music, in addition the static sound the music sounds as if it's in the background for a few seconds then return to being in the "front"

Edit2: Nevermind, I stuck a qtip in the jack and now the static is gone.

 



Try wiping the plug on your phones with your shirt or something tongue.gif

post #11072 of 13438
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Originally Posted by RochRx7 View Post

hmm. for the WooDUO 2 at $64 instead of msrp $125... would I be foolish *not* to get it?

No, you would be foolish to get it.

I heard two different WooDUOs and I thought both of them were horrid. I'm surprised Joker rated them so highly... The sound is just horrid IMO and I would've probably rated them even lower. Get the MH1C if you want that kind of sound tongue.gif


Welp, I have the UE900s and I think my impressions with them are just about on par with yours Joker. They definitely have too much lower midrange, but once I EQ that area down, they sound wonderful. Now to figure out how to apply a custom EQ on my iPod and I'll be good.

I also noticed that female vocals are indeed a little bit muffled. Would you say the 1964ears V3s would do a better job at handling female vocalists? I'm looking for a GR07-esque sound where the bass is a bit boosted and center stage is nice and intimate with female vocalists.

post #11073 of 13438

Joker, could I get a reccomendation;

I have the Vsonic GR99 and I like them a lot, even compared to my more expensive IEMs. I boght my dad some GR02s and I like them a lot too, and am looking to upgrade (want something better than both) I like the design of both of these IEMs and love the Vsonic sound except for one thing, the "S" sound has a little too much hiss to it ex: instead of the word sounding like "something" it sounds like "sssomething" Looking at some UE, Sony model, the RE-400 and also the higher Vsonic models. One thing I do not want is for the IEMs to protrude too much out of my ear because I may be sleeping in them. Budget is >$200. Basically just want a more refined version of the two low end vsonics.

I listen to some laid back rock, alternative, and rap music.

post #11074 of 13438
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Originally Posted by mechgamer123 View Post

No, you would be foolish to get it.

I heard two different WooDUOs and I thought both of them were horrid. I'm surprised Joker rated them so highly... The sound is just horrid IMO and I would've probably rated them even lower. Get the MH1C if you want that kind of sound tongue.gif


 

I already purchased the WooDUO2's.. just waiting for them to ship it.. I hope I don't share that same experience. O_o

And I ordered the MH1C's off of eBay last week.. so I expect those in soon too..

 

I have a list of budget-fi gear that I'm going after.. Whether I like them or not.. it's still a fun journey *experiencing gear* up next = Soundmagic e10, GR07BE, TDK BA200, Sony XBA3, Ety HF5 (eventually.. not all at once lol)

Or I just might get *half* from that list.. and aim for Westone 4's or UE900s (I like the UE sound sig so far.. but I've only experienced 6000 and 600 from UE)

 

post #11075 of 13438

Hi everyone!

i was wondering what would be considered a similar or better phone than the

Meelec A161P with a similar sound profile?

i really love my A161P but i always make sure bass boost is on.

i use a special app with my Galaxy phone ("DSP Manager") that enables direct access

to the phone's DAC, and the bass boost really adds a lot and i can't notice it being

at the cost of anything else.

i wonder why they didn't make the phone like that to begin with,

and i wonder what happens if i upgrade my phone.

is the Meelec A161P the bassiest single-ba around?

i also love the fact it's not sibilant.

i think it makes a lot of sense to tweak a phone towards the bass...that way you get

to enjoy both the ba's clarity tendency + bass...

what a wonderful little earphone this is :)


Edited by Amitl - 7/30/13 at 5:07pm
post #11076 of 13438
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mechgamer123 View Post

No, you would be foolish to get it.

I heard two different WooDUOs and I thought both of them were horrid. I'm surprised Joker rated them so highly... The sound is just horrid IMO and I would've probably rated them even lower. Get the MH1C if you want that kind of sound tongue.gif

 

The Wooduo has quite a bit more bass than the MH1C, though, so it's not really the same type of sound. The Wooduo is safely in basshead territory.

 

 

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Originally Posted by mechgamer123 View Post

Welp, I have the UE900s and I think my impressions with them are just about on par with yours Joker. They definitely have too much lower midrange, but once I EQ that area down, they sound wonderful. Now to figure out how to apply a custom EQ on my iPod and I'll be good.

I also noticed that female vocals are indeed a little bit muffled. Would you say the 1964ears V3s would do a better job at handling female vocalists? I'm looking for a GR07-esque sound where the bass is a bit boosted and center stage is nice and intimate with female vocalists.

 

 

The V3 is bassier and more intimate/aggressive than the UE900. I do think it does a better job with female vocalists but it's also not very similar to the GR07 overall - the GR07 is more akin to the Alclair Reference, with milder bass boost and less in-your-face mids compared to the 1964-V3.

 

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by lukEM22 View Post

Joker, could I get a reccomendation;

I have the Vsonic GR99 and I like them a lot, even compared to my more expensive IEMs. I boght my dad some GR02s and I like them a lot too, and am looking to upgrade (want something better than both) I like the design of both of these IEMs and love the Vsonic sound except for one thing, the "S" sound has a little too much hiss to it ex: instead of the word sounding like "something" it sounds like "sssomething" Looking at some UE, Sony model, the RE-400 and also the higher Vsonic models. One thing I do not want is for the IEMs to protrude too much out of my ear because I may be sleeping in them. Budget is >$200. Basically just want a more refined version of the two low end vsonics.

I listen to some laid back rock, alternative, and rap music.

 

The "S" sound you are referring to is called sibilance. Sibilance, to varying degrees, is present in all of the VSonic dynamic-driver IEMs I've tried. It's actually least prominent on the GR99 or maybe the R02 Silver. If you're worried about it VSonic is probably not the way to go for an upgrade. The RE-400 does not accentuate sibilance but it also doesn't have the bass quantity of the GR99 or R02. It's very small, though. For a more bass-heavy option that still avoids sibilance pretty well, the Yamaha EPH-100 would be worth a look. 

 

 

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Originally Posted by Amitl View Post

Hi everyone!

i was wondering what would be considered a similar or better phone than the

Meelec A161P with a similar sound profile?

i really love my A161P but i always make sure bass boost is on.

i use a special app with my Galaxy phone ("DSP Manager") that enables direct access

to the phone's DAC, and the bass boost really adds a lot and i can't notice it being

at the cost of anything else.

i wonder why they didn't make the phone like that to begin with,

 

Probably because it's already got enough bass for those who like a balanced sound. Make it bassier and it's no longer a "reference" earphone.

 

 

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Originally Posted by Amitl View Post

 

 

is the Meelec A161P the bassiest single-ba around?

 

 

 

The Phonak Perfect Bass (022) has more bass. The Final Audio Heaven S/C have more bass. The Klipsch X10 has a lot more bass.

 

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Originally Posted by Amitl View Post

 

i also love the fact it's not sibilant.

i think it makes a lot of sense to tweak a phone towards the bass...that way you get

to enjoy both the ba's clarity tendency + bass...

what a wonderful little earphone this is :)

 

Tuning the hardware for more bass will affect the sound in other ways, e.g. by reducing the clarity. See: all of the earphones out there that come with tuning filters. At that point you're better off using a parametric EQ to get the sound you want.

post #11077 of 13438
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post

 

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Originally Posted by mechgamer123 View Post

Welp, I have the UE900s and I think my impressions with them are just about on par with yours Joker. They definitely have too much lower midrange, but once I EQ that area down, they sound wonderful. Now to figure out how to apply a custom EQ on my iPod and I'll be good.

I also noticed that female vocals are indeed a little bit muffled. Would you say the 1964ears V3s would do a better job at handling female vocalists? I'm looking for a GR07-esque sound where the bass is a bit boosted and center stage is nice and intimate with female vocalists.

 

 

The V3 is bassier and more intimate/aggressive than the UE900. I do think it does a better job with female vocalists but it's also not very similar to the GR07 overall - the GR07 is more akin to the Alclair Reference, with milder bass boost and less in-your-face mids compared to the 1964-V3.

So, would it be safe to say the V3 is a bit more "fun" or "crazy" than the GR07? Sounds like it might be right up my alley. smily_headphones1.gif

post #11078 of 13438
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post

 

The "S" sound you are referring to is called sibilance. Sibilance, to varying degrees, is present in all of the VSonic dynamic-driver IEMs I've tried. It's actually least prominent on the GR99 or maybe the R02 Silver. If you're worried about it VSonic is probably not the way to go for an upgrade. The RE-400 does not accentuate sibilance but it also doesn't have the bass quantity of the GR99 or R02. It's very small, though. For a more bass-heavy option that still avoids sibilance pretty well, the Yamaha EPH-100 would be worth a look. 

 

 

 

Thank you joker, another question, similair to my first one really. Just need a reccomendation:
The sound of a Sony MH1C without the J-cable. I cant stand that cable but absolutely love how they sound.

post #11079 of 13438
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by mechgamer123 View Post

So, would it be safe to say the V3 is a bit more "fun" or "crazy" than the GR07? Sounds like it might be right up my alley. smily_headphones1.gif

 

Yes. More "colored" would be another way to say it...

 

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Originally Posted by lukEM22 View Post

 

Thank you joker, another question, similair to my first one really. Just need a reccomendation:
The sound of a Sony MH1C without the J-cable. I cant stand that cable but absolutely love how they sound.


Hmm.. I wish I had something that sounds like the MH1C without that cable. Best bet in the same price range would probably be the Shure SE215. It's a little less bassy but still a warmer earphone. Going up in price, best option is probably something like a Monster Turbine Pro Gold but that's quite expensive. 

post #11080 of 13438

Hi joker,

i would like upgrade my senn ie8, do you think that jvc ha-fx700 is a good idea?

Thanks

post #11081 of 13438

Hi ljokerl,

 

Can't wait your review of Vsonic VSD1 compared with GR02 BE and GR07 BE :) Mine has already burned in for about 100 hours, but still there is very noticeable sibilance. Do you think burning in further would minimize it?

 

What would you suggest IEM that can compete with ATH-M50 in term of SQ, but with more forward midrange, preferably under $200. :)


Edited by ctantra - 7/31/13 at 6:00am
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Edited by stimer - 7/31/13 at 7:14am
post #11083 of 13438
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by reckca View Post

Hi joker,

i would like upgrade my senn ie8, do you think that jvc ha-fx700 is a good idea?

Thanks

 

Depends on what you're looking for from your "upgrade". The FX700 is one of the best bass-heavy universals I've heard and enjoys less bloat than the IE8 and a bit more clarity and resolution. The IE8 isn't too shabby itself, though. 

 

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Originally Posted by ctantra View Post

Hi ljokerl,

 

Can't wait your review of Vsonic VSD1 compared with GR02 BE and GR07 BE :) Mine has already burned in for about 100 hours, but still there is very noticeable sibilance. Do you think burning in further would minimize it?


I doubt it. You're better off playing with different tips and insertion depth. Mine is mildly sibilant as well after a month or so. 

 

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Originally Posted by ctantra View Post

 

What would you suggest IEM that can compete with ATH-M50 in term of SQ, but with more forward midrange, preferably under $200. :)


I haven't heard the M50 in a while. If you're worried about sibilance I would say the Philips Fidelio S2. It'll sound like a more accurate version of the your VSD1, with less bass boost, mids that are in line with the rest of the sound, and less tendency to exaggerate sibilance. Another option is the JVC HA-FXT90, which is more colored-sounding than the Fidelios, with more mid-bass boost, but has a pretty aggressive sound that doesn't distance the mids. 

post #11084 of 13438
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post

 

Depends on what you're looking for from your "upgrade". The FX700 is one of the best bass-heavy universals I've heard and enjoys less bloat than the IE8 and a bit more clarity and resolution. The IE8 isn't too shabby itself, though. 

 

 

 

And what do you think are the best bass heavy universals, better than ie8?

post #11085 of 13438
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by reckca View Post

 

And what do you think are the best bass heavy universals, better than ie8?


For me it's probably the IE 800.

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