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Hey Joker

Just wanna say that this is a brilliant roundup, massively impressed with the work you've put into this, and it's helped influence my last couple IEM purchases; I bought a set of Shure SE 535's a few months back (as my first pair of IEM's, actually) and I love them, but I had a problem with them staying in my ears so I decided to go custom and, again using your reviews as guidance, I bought a set of UM Miracle CIEM's. I actually tried to get the Spiral Ear 3-way but apparently my ears aren't suited for that, according to the rep I was emailing, so now I'm just waiting for the Miracle to ship, and then I can pair them with my HDP-R10 DAP. Can't wait to drown out transit with those beauties in my ears :P


Thanks, glad the thread has been useful!

 

SE535 to Miracle, that's an interesting move. I'd be curious as to your opinion of the latter. I am thinking it will sound a little bright at first wink.gif.

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Hey Joker, what are a couple of IEMs you would say have the best value in that; starting from around this tier of iems do the quality/price ration begin to fall out or become highly subjective? And which ones would be under that but with almost to no microphonics. To me, if I can notice the microphonics when I'm walking with my IEMs, it just ruins the SQ.

Right now I'm using TF10 but the comfort and my new wire's  microphonics are kind of ruining it, I'm thinking about some Vsonic GR07 MKII (or BE depending on if I want more bass or mids) to change up the pace.

Alternatively, I could reshell my TF10 and get new cables. Decisions decisions..


Edited by killerfrenzi - 7/24/13 at 9:37am
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I'm not ljokerl but I just want to say that a really good seal on a phone with minimal or no venting might create the thumping effect when you walk. I think it's those factors. I get it with Re0 but not with GR07. Both using the same size MH1C hybrids. It gets less annoying if I wear running shoes or other soft shoes and watch how I walk. And yes, I wear both with cables over my ear and with no microphonics from clothes touching the cable. Just my own footsteps.

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I'm not ljokerl but I just want to say that a really good seal on a phone with minimal or no venting might create the thumping effect when you walk. I think it's those factors. I get it with Re0 but not with GR07. Both using the same size MH1C hybrids. It gets less annoying if I wear running shoes or other soft shoes and watch how I walk. And yes, I wear both with cables over my ear and with no microphonics from clothes touching the cable. Just my own footsteps.

 

It actually depends on the IEMs shape and housing...  The RE0 is an open phone, there is a vent on the back.  It depends on the shape of the phone, the cabling used, and how you wear it (up or down).  All of those will contribute to this. 

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Right now I'm using TF10 but the comfort and my new wire's  microphonics are kind of ruining it, I'm thinking about some Vsonic GR07 MKII (or BE depending on if I want more bass or mids) to change up the pace.

Alternatively, I could reshell my TF10 and get new cables. Decisions decisions..

 

I used to own (and love) the TF10 - I sold it because of the fit and the microphonics.  I bought the GR07 and when I first got them, being accustomed to the TF10's signature, I hated them...but that hate only lasted for a couple of days.  The GR07 is now one of all time favorite headphones. 

 

Try to find a GR07 in the sales forum.  If you don't like it just sell it and get your money back.

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I used to own (and love) the TF10 - I sold it because of the fit and the microphonics.  I bought the GR07 and when I first got them, being accustomed to the TF10's signature, I hated them...but that hate only lasted for a couple of days.  The GR07 is now one of all time favorite headphones. 

 

Try to find a GR07 in the sales forum.  If you don't like it just sell it and get your money back.

 

 

I'm having a tough decision of whether re-shell or GR07 (and MKII or BE).

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I'm having a tough decision of whether re-shell or GR07 (and MKII or BE).

There's a sale going on now at lendmeurears. Either the MkII or BE for $133.25

Tick tock

I purchased the BE because I prefer my low end to have a bit more rumble.
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You can have mkii have more bass by blocking the front vent, subbass is boosted.
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basically depends if I value the mids or the bass more since having one would muddle the other.

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Originally Posted by killerfrenzi View Post

Hey Joker, what are a couple of IEMs you would say have the best value in that; starting from around this tier of iems do the quality/price ration begin to fall out or become highly subjective? And which ones would be under that but with almost to no microphonics. To me, if I can notice the microphonics when I'm walking with my IEMs, it just ruins the SQ.

Right now I'm using TF10 but the comfort and my new wire's  microphonics are kind of ruining it, I'm thinking about some Vsonic GR07 MKII (or BE depending on if I want more bass or mids) to change up the pace.

Alternatively, I could reshell my TF10 and get new cables. Decisions decisions..

 

A proper custom re-fit with custom (Westone ES-type) cables shouldn't really have any microphonics. If you like the sound of the TF10 I don't see anything wrong with re-shelling it. If you want a change then moving to VSonic would be a better option but to me customs have a bit less microphonics. 

 

In regards to your more general first question, at this point there are a bunch of sub-$50 earphones that will hit you hard with diminishing returns when you try to upgrade from them. I am talking about the Sony MH1C, LG Quatbeat, a few of the VSonics, Philips SHE3580s, etc. 

 

Then above the $150-200 range or so, a lot of it starts coming down to preference. This is why I have trouble suggesting upgrades to sets such as the VSonic GR07, Ety HF5, and HiFiMan RE-400 (among others) when asked. 

 

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Originally Posted by MoonYeol View Post

I'm not ljokerl but I just want to say that a really good seal on a phone with minimal or no venting might create the thumping effect when you walk. I think it's those factors. I get it with Re0 but not with GR07. Both using the same size MH1C hybrids. It gets less annoying if I wear running shoes or other soft shoes and watch how I walk. And yes, I wear both with cables over my ear and with no microphonics from clothes touching the cable. Just my own footsteps.


That's called the occlusion effect, it's distinct from microphonics. 

post #11051 of 13438

Wow Joker with the review of the Sm64... I feels like a new competitor for the V3 has come up to change my decision! :P But I believe the V3 still sounds a tad better?

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Wow Joker with the review of the Sm64... I feels like a new competitor for the V3 has come up to change my decision! :P But I believe the V3 still sounds a tad better?


Pretty different sound, the V3 is more aggressive and engaging and has brighter treble and more of a mid-bass hump. If you want something more mid-centric the SM64 might actually be a better option.

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Pretty different sound, the V3 is more aggressive and engaging and has brighter treble and more of a mid-bass hump. If you want something more mid-centric the SM64 might actually be a better option.

Really? Haha thanks! It's always interesting how all IEM are different

post #11054 of 13438

I would love to see the Fxz100/200 included in this review. But anyways: Great thread, helped me a lot with choosing IEM's!

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I would love to see the Fxz100/200 included in this review. But anyways: Great thread, helped me a lot with choosing IEM's!


I would too. Someday...

 

Glad the thread has been helpful beerchug.gif

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