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post #10816 of 13438

Hi Joker

 

Fantastic thread, thanks for posting all this. I got a pair of Vsonic GR02 Bass Editions recently and love them. But my right ear canal is apparently tiny and even the smallest tips provided by vsonic (which are quite small) are uncomfortable enough that I cant wear the headphones in more than a couple hours as my right ear canal becomes bruised from the tip. I've always used comply tips in the past as I've never before found silicone tips small enough to fit and stay in my ear. The smallest vsonic tip stays in my ear and I don't notice until its been in there for a while and the ear canal starts to bruise.Otherwise they are great. Do you have any recommendations on a pair on a pair with even smaller tips? 

 

I considered getting the astrotec am-90s or rock-it r-20s or etymotic mc5 but didn't know if I would be happy with the sound since they all have smaller frequency ranges listed. Honestly the bass in the gr02 BE is more heavy than I really need but I really like that it has such great extension. Budget would be up to $100ish I guess though I do tend to lose my headphones every 4 months or so which is why I was looking at cheaper sets. I also fly at least twice a week so decent isolation would be nice.

 

Again thanks for making this thread and for any advice you might have. It's an incredible resource.

post #10817 of 13438
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Originally Posted by justblue View Post

Joker, do you know the Brainwavz M4? What do you think of it? I was shure it was measured and ranked, though it's not apparently. Today it's on heavy sale at MP4Nation ($29 instead of $69), isn't it a bang for the buck?

 

I skipped over the M4. From what I understand it was tuned for a more v-shaped sound than the older M1-M3 but I don't know how it actually performs. 

 

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Thanks, I see a few places where I can still get them so I'll have to check them out.  JVC's have always fit my ears perfectly.  The FXT90's were always a pleasure to wear, just always wished those had a bit more in the bass department.

 

Careful - there were fakes of the FX500 when it was still in production. Also, the FX500 has great capacity for bass but to match the mid-bass of the CKM500 you will still need to raise the mid-bass on the EQ. There are very few things out there with the mid-bass intensity of the CKM500 that are still on a similar SQ level. 

 

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Originally Posted by matt4109 View Post

Hi Joker

 

Fantastic thread, thanks for posting all this. I got a pair of Vsonic GR02 Bass Editions recently and love them. But my right ear canal is apparently tiny and even the smallest tips provided by vsonic (which are quite small) are uncomfortable enough that I cant wear the headphones in more than a couple hours as my right ear canal becomes bruised from the tip. I've always used comply tips in the past as I've never before found silicone tips small enough to fit and stay in my ear. The smallest vsonic tip stays in my ear and I don't notice until its been in there for a while and the ear canal starts to bruise.Otherwise they are great. Do you have any recommendations on a pair on a pair with even smaller tips? 

 

I considered getting the astrotec am-90s or rock-it r-20s or etymotic mc5 but didn't know if I would be happy with the sound since they all have smaller frequency ranges listed. Honestly the bass in the gr02 BE is more heavy than I really need but I really like that it has such great extension. Budget would be up to $100ish I guess though I do tend to lose my headphones every 4 months or so which is why I was looking at cheaper sets. I also fly at least twice a week so decent isolation would be nice.

 

Again thanks for making this thread and for any advice you might have. It's an incredible resource.

 

Why not get Complys for the GR02? Seems like that might be the cheapest solution with the most certain outcome unless you actually want something with less bass. 

post #10818 of 13438

Joker, what would be all-around upgrade from Meelec A151? A bit more bass and better soundstage would be good, but i don't really want to give anything in exchange. Several suggestions would be nice, no particular budget in mind.

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Originally Posted by matt4109 View Post

Hi Joker

 

Fantastic thread, thanks for posting all this. I got a pair of Vsonic GR02 Bass Editions recently and love them. But my right ear canal is apparently tiny and even the smallest tips provided by vsonic (which are quite small) are uncomfortable enough that I cant wear the headphones in more than a couple hours as my right ear canal becomes bruised from the tip. I've always used comply tips in the past as I've never before found silicone tips small enough to fit and stay in my ear. The smallest vsonic tip stays in my ear and I don't notice until its been in there for a while and the ear canal starts to bruise.Otherwise they are great. Do you have any recommendations on a pair on a pair with even smaller tips? 

 

I considered getting the astrotec am-90s or rock-it r-20s or etymotic mc5 but didn't know if I would be happy with the sound since they all have smaller frequency ranges listed. Honestly the bass in the gr02 BE is more heavy than I really need but I really like that it has such great extension. Budget would be up to $100ish I guess though I do tend to lose my headphones every 4 months or so which is why I was looking at cheaper sets. I also fly at least twice a week so decent isolation would be nice.

 

Again thanks for making this thread and for any advice you might have. It's an incredible resource.


I have really narrow ear canals too. The smallest tips I've found so far are the Jays silicones.  They come in xx-small, but can be hard to find.

If you are in the US or Canada, the only place I know that you can buy them is here: http://stereotypeaudio.com/our-brands/jays/jays-silicon-sleeve-xxs-black.html

http://stereotypeaudio.com/our-brands/jays/jays-silicon-sleeve-xxs-white.html

Maybe you can find them on eBay.  I know that someone posted other places you can get them if you're in Europe, but I don't remember where.

Reading reviews, several people have had luck with them using them on various Vsonic earphones, so I'm sure they will fit the GR02 nozzle. I've read that because the opening is very slightly wider than the Vsonics, they tend to slightly increase the treble emphasis in comparison.

I haven't actually ordered them yet, because the smallest Vsonic tips fit my ears, but just barely.  Although, I just bought another earphone, TDK BA200, and I'm considering buying them for that, as none of the stock tips are small enough.

Based on the measurements posted at the website above, the xxs Jays silicones appear to be just a bit smaller than the smallest Vsonics (8.8 mm versus 9-9.5 mm for the Vsonics). Here's a link to a review with pics of the different sizes of Jays silicone eartips. http://anythingbutipod.com/2007/10/jays-q-jays-review/

post #10820 of 13438
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Originally Posted by iRo-Fi View Post

Joker, what would be all-around upgrade from Meelec A151? A bit more bass and better soundstage would be good, but i don't really want to give anything in exchange. Several suggestions would be nice, no particular budget in mind.


Well, the A161P is one – it’s a more aggressive sound but it also has better imaging and more bass. The deep bass is especially more prominent compared to the A151.

 

Another one in a similar price range is the HiFiMan RE-400. It doesn't have a whole lot more bass depth than the A151 but it has slightly more mid-bass impact, along with very smooth mids and treble and a well-rounded presentation.

 

Along those same lines, the Philips Fidelio S1/S2 have more deep bass than the RE-400 but also are a little more energetic in the treble region. They have wider soundstages but lack the layering of the RE-400 and VSonic GR07.  

 

The VSonic GR07 has more bass and a wider soundstage and doesn’t really give anything up except for the treble smoothness of the A151 (although the A151 doesn't have quite enough treble energy in my opinion). 

 

The UE900, if you really want to spend a lot, has smoother treble than the GR07 and fits all of your other requirements.

post #10821 of 13438
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Originally Posted by Jill View Post


I have really narrow ear canals too. The smallest tips I've found so far are the Jays silicones.  They come in xx-small, but can be hard to find.

If you are in the US or Canada, the only place I know that you can buy them is here: http://stereotypeaudio.com/our-brands/jays/jays-silicon-sleeve-xxs-black.html

http://stereotypeaudio.com/our-brands/jays/jays-silicon-sleeve-xxs-white.html

Maybe you can find them on eBay.  I know that someone posted other places you can get them if you're in Europe, but I don't remember where.

Reading reviews, several people have had luck with them using them on various Vsonic earphones, so I'm sure they will fit the GR02 nozzle. I've read that because the opening is very slightly wider than the Vsonics, they tend to slightly increase the treble emphasis in comparison.

I haven't actually ordered them yet, because the smallest Vsonic tips fit my ears, but just barely.  Although, I just bought another earphone, TDK BA200, and I'm considering buying them for that, as none of the stock tips are small enough.

Based on the measurements posted at the website above, the xxs Jays silicones appear to be just a bit smaller than the smallest Vsonics (8.8 mm versus 9-9.5 mm for the Vsonics). Here's a link to a review with pics of the different sizes of Jays silicone eartips. http://anythingbutipod.com/2007/10/jays-q-jays-review/

Try vc02's smallest tips, they're the smallest tip I've seen in an iem 
http://cdn.head-fi.org/c/cd/350x700px-LL-cd52ea7c_IMG_20121122_093353.jpeg

post #10822 of 13438
Hey guys, I have a question and I know this really isn't the place to ask but I haven't been getting much help posting in the "Help and Introduction" section.

Anyways, I am looking to get a new pair of IEMs and I'm about to get the Westone 4Rs, I don't want to spend more than 400. Is there any other IEMs that I should be considering at that price range? I like neutral sound and some color but nothing with unnatural bass. Again I know this wasn't the place to ask but I appreciate your guys patience.
post #10823 of 13438
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Originally Posted by kskwerl View Post

Hey guys, I have a question and I know this really isn't the place to ask but I haven't been getting much help posting in the "Help and Introduction" section.

Anyways, I am looking to get a new pair of IEMs and I'm about to get the Westone 4Rs, I don't want to spend more than 400. Is there any other IEMs that I should be considering at that price range? I like neutral sound and some color but nothing with unnatural bass. Again I know this wasn't the place to ask but I appreciate your guys patience.


It's one of the places to ask... wink.gif

 

There are lots of other high-end IEMs you can snag for under $400. The Westones happen to be versatile and fit your requirements of not being completely neutral but also not having heavily enhanced bass. I don't see anything wrong with them as your pick. As for alternatives, I would say the UE900, VSonic GR07 / GR07 Bass Edition, and maybe the Sony MDR-7550 also fit your requirements, all with slightly different sound signatures and form factors. 

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It's one of the places to ask... wink.gif

 

There are lots of other high-end IEMs you can snag for under $400. The Westones happen to be versatile and fit your requirements of not being completely neutral but also not having heavily enhanced bass. I don't see anything wrong with them as your pick. As for alternatives, I would say the UE900, VSonic GR07 / GR07 Bass Edition, and maybe the Sony MDR-7550 also fit your requirements, all with slightly different sound signatures and form factors. 


Thanks for the suggestions, those were pretty much the others I had in my head. I really want to try the Westone 4Rs tho and maybe get some custom tips down the road as I have a limited budget. Otherwise I would just get some customs

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Originally Posted by FrequencyBlue View Post

I am using your thread to find and add some IEMs to http://www.head-fi.org/t/670395/the-new-v-shaped-club, will credit you as list builder

 

btw, do you think the FXT90s belong to entry-level or mid-fi IEMs?

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Originally Posted by FrequencyBlue View Post

:(

Xp he overlooked your comment.

post #10827 of 13438
By price or by SQ?
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Originally Posted by Joe Bloggs View Post

By price or by SQ?

SQ
post #10829 of 13438
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Originally Posted by FrequencyBlue View Post

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Missed the post. I would say mid-fi for the FXT90.

post #10830 of 13438
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Missed the post. I would say mid-fi for the FXT90.

Cool~

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