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post #10276 of 13449
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Originally Posted by Amitl View Post

my A161P just fell off the table and hit the floor :\
doesnt seem like anything happened...but i was wondering
if balanced armatures are resistant to shock like dynamics?
please don't laugh at me :P

I'm kind or curious as to why you think dynamics are resistant to shock. I have no idea either way, unless you mean when more parts are involved, like crossovers possibly disconnecting, but that wouldn't affect the A161.

Anyway, interested in anyone's response.
post #10277 of 13449
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Originally Posted by Amitl View Post

my A161P just fell off the table and hit the floor :\

doesnt seem like anything happened...but i was wondering

if balanced armatures are resistant to shock like dynamics?

please don't laugh at me :P

Earbuds can break from hitting the floor?

post #10278 of 13449
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Originally Posted by daleb View Post

Earbuds can break from hitting the floor?
Sarcasm?
post #10279 of 13449
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Originally Posted by vwinter View Post


Sarcasm?


I've never had mine break from hitting the floor, they are just so light. On the other hand, the wire breaks so easily its not even funny.

 

Edit: Is their anyway to check if a pair of IEMs are being discontinued? I can't find them on Vsonic's website, and there is only 1 left in stock on amazon...


Edited by daleb - 5/12/13 at 7:42pm
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Are IEMS supposed to hurt your ears after you take them out? The M9s I currently have are very pianful to my ears, they put a ton of pressure on the ear canal walls, and afterwards my ears end up feeling like they are constantly being pricked by a needle. I only use them because I have to have isolation.
 

post #10281 of 13449
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Originally Posted by daleb View Post


I've never had mine break from hitting the floor, they are just so light. On the other hand, the wire breaks so easily its not even funny.

Edit: Is their anyway to check if a pair of IEMs are being discontinued? I can't find them on Vsonic's website, and there is only 1 left in stock on amazon...

Never had them break on me either due to being dropped, but if they did I wouldn't exactly be shocked. Tiny, delicate parts, adhesives, thin wires, anything could get jarred loose on a pinpoint impact.

The VC02 is a relatively new product and VSonic isn't the best at updating their website =/
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Originally Posted by daleb View Post

Are IEMS supposed to hurt your ears after you take them out? The M9s I currently have are very pianful to my ears, they put a ton of pressure on the ear canal walls, and afterwards my ears end up feeling like they are constantly being pricked by a needle. I only use them because I have to have isolation.

Is this your first time using IEM's? If so your ears should get used to the pressure a bit more. But the I slept on my arm feeling is a bit weird because that might mean lack of blood flow until you remove them... Maybe use a smaller tip? Or a smaller nozzle IEM? Dunno but it's a start.
post #10282 of 13449
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Originally Posted by vwinter View Post


Never had them break on me either due to being dropped, but if they did I wouldn't exactly be shocked. Tiny, delicate parts, adhesives, thin wires, anything could get jarred loose on a pinpoint impact.

The VC02 is a relatively new product and VSonic isn't the best at updating their website =/
Is this your first time using IEM's? If so your ears should get used to the pressure a bit more. But the I slept on my arm feeling is a bit weird because that might mean lack of blood flow until you remove them... Maybe use a smaller tip? Or a smaller nozzle IEM? Dunno but it's a start.

I guess they could break, then, it just always feels like the IEMs are too light weight to even be pushed by falling, as if they are feathers.

 

I don't think I described the feeling well enough, Its a lot more like pain then it is like having an arm fall asleep. It makes me feel like I damaged my hearing, which makes no sense, because I can just wear them with no sound playing and it does this. I don't know if its because of a huge difference in pressure or what... I also am wondering if I can even wear deep insertion IEMs, my ears don't feel like they would let the IEMs go in that far, like my ears are blocked off past that point. And I'm not new to IEMs, either. While, yes, the M9s were my first pair, I've had them for over a year now, and  I'm easily used to the feeling. I think it has something more to with the insertion and removal process of the IEMs, messing with my eardrums because of pressure. Maybe I just don't know how to wear IEMs. Though the way I maximize pressure increases isolation a ton, almost doubles it I'd say. Even at normal pressures, these things still cause pain, though.

 

The reason I want new earbuds is because I lost one of the tips to the E9, and those were the only tips that could isolate even moderately without adding tons of pressure. Without those, I have to use the other tips in very unconvential, painful manners, and those isolate even less then the stock tips. I don't know whether the M9s are just painful to my ears, or my search for overly powerful isolation is the one killing my ears.

 

Maybe I should just go with an Etymotic, instead. I don't know if the VC02 will isolate enough that I will not end up forcing it to isolate through bad-for-the-ear insertion.


Edited by daleb - 5/12/13 at 9:50pm
post #10283 of 13449
I'm not sure I'm helping you by telling you this what with it making your ears fall asleep but you can get replacement tips for the M9 shipped pretty cheap on the meelectronics website.

I feel like you might want to look into customs, which would be a much larger expenditure unfortunately. Great isolation and probably little to no pressure on the ear canal.
post #10284 of 13449
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Originally Posted by vwinter View Post

I'm not sure I'm helping you by telling you this what with it making your ears fall asleep but you can get replacement tips for the M9 shipped pretty cheap on the meelectronics website.

I feel like you might want to look into customs, which would be a much larger expenditure unfortunately. Great isolation and probably little to no pressure on the ear canal.

I could also spray paint my HD280s like I've been planning and start taking those everywhere (seeing as I'm getting some new higher end headphones anyways). I have lots of possibilities, and I don't have to figure this out for a while, so I'll check into it. I'm upgrading my M9s anyways, I don't like the sound signature in the first place.

 

I will get some customs maybe 10 years from now, but not yet. Though, actually... I should have the funds to get customs this summer, maybe... I'll actually see if that's a possibility.

 

edit: ugh... I just tried putting on my M9s again, with no sound, and no trying to make it isolate. Whenever I take them out, it just hurts my ears. How do you make it not hurt so much?!


Edited by daleb - 5/12/13 at 10:04pm
post #10285 of 13449
This is probably not what you want to hear but if smaller tips don't help, maybe see an ENT doctor?
post #10286 of 13449
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Originally Posted by vwinter View Post

This is probably not what you want to hear but if smaller tips don't help, maybe see an ENT doctor?

Actually the tips that are on right now are even bigger then the originals XD

I don't have any small tips, sadly, so I can't check for this.

Also, the pain does seem the be caused by the giant decrease in pressure when I take them out. it really pulls on the ear drums. Anyway to not have that happen?

 

Edit: Do the VC02s come with small tips? That would probably make it so I can actually use them... Maybe my ear canals are thinner then most peoples?


Edited by daleb - 5/12/13 at 10:16pm
post #10287 of 13449
Maybe, if possible, try compressing the tip on one side to break the seal before pulling it out?

The VC02 should come with a relative ton of tips.
post #10288 of 13449
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Originally Posted by vwinter View Post

Maybe, if possible, try compressing the tip on one side to break the seal before pulling it out?

The VC02 should come with a relative ton of tips.


While I can't seem to break the seal in that way, breaking the seal at all does seem to help a ton. But not fully, because these tips right now are just way too big and cause way too much pressure in all directions...

 

Yeah, I just checked them here, how are these only a 3 on accessories, they come with so much!

post #10289 of 13449
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Testing the hundreds of no-name IEMs out there would be a full time job all of its own. Plus, you don't have to go to no-name brands for good sound these days with sub-$10 sets like the Philips SHE3580 and Monoprice 8320 out there.

 

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Originally Posted by Amitl View Post

my A161P just fell off the table and hit the floor :\

doesnt seem like anything happened...but i was wondering

if balanced armatures are resistant to shock like dynamics?

please don't laugh at me :P

 

Probably depends on the particular armature design. Knowles has been making BA drivers for decades so I'm sure their drivers are not that fragile. 

 

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Originally Posted by daleb View Post

Are IEMS supposed to hurt your ears after you take them out? The M9s I currently have are very pianful to my ears, they put a ton of pressure on the ear canal walls, and afterwards my ears end up feeling like they are constantly being pricked by a needle. I only use them because I have to have isolation.
 


You may be using the wrong size of eartip for your ear. Foam tips might be a worthwhile investment for you.

post #10290 of 13449
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post

You may be using the wrong size of eartip for your ear. Foam tips might be a worthwhile investment for you.

It seems I am using the wrong size. Problem is, none of the other tips the M9 came with have any isolation... I'll check into foam tips if the VC02s don't come with tips that work for me.

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