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post #8941 of 10391
12/4/12 at 6:16pm
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So the K3003 is the closest to what I've described?

If I used High boost filter for K3003, the highs are more forward, bright, while the mids and bass gets completely unaffected?


Seems that way to me. The high boost filters makes the K3003 pretty bright.

 

 

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If I used High boost filter for K3003, the highs are more forward, bright, while the mids and bass gets completely unaffected?

 

Anytime you change part of the spectrum the entire sound signature changes but insofar as possible that seems to be the case with the AKGs.

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post #8942 of 10391
12/4/12 at 8:30pm

So between the Gr07 and Rock IT R50, which has better instrument seperation. And what are the difference between the highs and mids of the 2. And how does the R50 bass compare to the GR06 bass?


Edited by Gryphus0204 - 12/4/12 at 10:11pm
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post #8943 of 10391
12/4/12 at 8:33pm
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So the K3003 is the closest to what I've described?

If I used High boost filter for K3003, the highs are more forward, bright, while the mids and bass gets completely unaffected?

 

Compared to customs, the K3003 is overpriced and customs of similar price or cheaper offer superior sound quality. I would recommend going the custom route if possible.

 

Otherwise, you should consider the Tralucent Audio 1Plus2. It compares well to high-end customs, and is claimed to best the K3003 and TG334, while being at a similar price. 

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post #8944 of 10391
12/4/12 at 8:55pm
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Compared to customs, the K3003 is overpriced and customs of similar price or cheaper offer superior sound quality. I would recommend going the custom route if possible.

 

Otherwise, you should consider the Tralucent Audio 1Plus2. It compares well to high-end customs, and is claimed to best the K3003 and TG334, while being at a similar price. 

Well, I kind of want to sell my IEMs at a decent price when better ones come out.

Customs do not have good resale value.

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post #8945 of 10391
12/4/12 at 10:57pm
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Compared to customs, the K3003 is overpriced and customs of similar price or cheaper offer superior sound quality. I would recommend going the custom route if possible.

Compared to customs, there's no hassle with making bad ear impressions repeatedly. (Audiologists cannot make nice deep impressions around here.) The universal fit of K3003 is very nice, but indeed it is a "luxury" device, overpriced at least 2x.

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post #8946 of 10391
12/5/12 at 12:15am
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Compared to customs, the K3003 is overpriced and customs of similar price or cheaper offer superior sound quality. I would recommend going the custom route if possible.

 

Otherwise, you should consider the Tralucent Audio 1Plus2. It compares well to high-end customs, and is claimed to best the K3003 and TG334, while being at a similar price. 

 

Dear cookie eating robot, your post makes me wonder...

 

1. Have you heard the K3003?

2. Have you heard the 1Plus2?

3. Are you aware that the original 1Plus2 are out of production and (afaik) no one here has heard the new version yet?

4. Do you think that your honest answers to 1.-3. are good grounds to base a recommendation on?

 

Regards,

James

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post #8947 of 10391
12/5/12 at 7:53am
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Dear cookie eating robot, your post makes me wonder...

 

1. Have you heard the K3003?

2. Have you heard the 1Plus2?

3. Are you aware that the original 1Plus2 are out of production and (afaik) no one here has heard the new version yet?

4. Do you think that your honest answers to 1.-3. are good grounds to base a recommendation on?

 

Regards,

James

 

I have not heard the K3003, but have demo'd the CK10 in store and have read that they are similar sounding. I have not heard the Tralucent 1Plus2, in which I stated "claim." The 1Plus2 are not out of production, you can obtain them at Musica Acoustics.

 

I don't want to start an argument here, so, I guess I apologize.

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post #8948 of 10391
12/5/12 at 9:43am
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Well, I kind of want to sell my IEMs at a decent price when better ones come out.

Customs do not have good resale value.

 

Customs (at least those made with a deep-fitting mold) have inherent acoustic advantages over shallow-fitting IEMs like the K3003.

 

I would also look into EQing your FX700 to obtain the slight change in signature you are describing without spending anything at all.  Properly implemented digital EQ is totally transparent.

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post #8949 of 10391
12/5/12 at 10:57am

I think you meant it doesn't add any distortion. It's obviously not transparent if it changes the sound audibly.

 

K3003 equivalent in customs would be one of the hybrids, or perhaps something bass boosted like JH16. I don't know about Tralucent.

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post #8950 of 10391
12/5/12 at 11:11am
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Customs (at least those made with a deep-fitting mold) have inherent acoustic advantages over shallow-fitting IEMs like the K3003.

 

I would also look into EQing your FX700 to obtain the slight change in signature you are describing without spending anything at all.  Properly implemented digital EQ is totally transparent.

I kind of want to get something better too. I'm current using FX700 with EQing

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post #8951 of 10391
12/5/12 at 11:16am
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I have not heard the K3003, but have demo'd the CK10 in store and have read that they are similar sounding. I have not heard the Tralucent 1Plus2, in which I stated "claim." The 1Plus2 are not out of production, you can obtain them at Musica Acoustics.

 

I don't want to start an argument here, so, I guess I apologize.

 

Don't wanna start an argument either, but jeez, you're giving a $1000+ recommendation without having heard any of these phones? Think about it!

 

I stand corrected regarding the 1Plus2, and thanks for letting me know that MA are still selling the old model. I've been offered a demo and thought they were the new one.

 

Btw, don't know who told you that the K3003 and CK10 sound similar, but if I still had my CK10, I'd send you both to hear for yourself that it's a pretty far fetched claim.

 

Anyway, no hard feelings, you seem to be a reasonable guy robot, so beerchug.gif

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post #8952 of 10391
12/5/12 at 7:14pm
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So between the Gr07 and Rock IT R50, which has better instrument seperation. And what are the difference between the highs and mids of the 2. And how does the R50 bass compare to the GR06 bass?


The R-50 images slightly better in my opinion but neither is congested to any degree. The GR06 has more bass than the R-50 by a margin.

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post #8953 of 10391
12/5/12 at 7:53pm

Klipsch s4 vs Philips she3580 ? cool.gif

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post #8954 of 10391
12/6/12 at 1:12am
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Klipsch s4 vs Philips she3580 ? cool.gif


SHE3580. Better deep bass and not as harsh/sibilant.

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post #8955 of 10391
12/6/12 at 1:26am
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Klipsch s4 vs Philips she3580 ? cool.gif

 

What do you want to compare? rolleyes.gif

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