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post #8701 of 10373
11/11/12 at 11:28am
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Which signature would you say brings the most clarity? My ideal signature is something that has both clarity in vocals, strings, piano etc but also still has some of the umpf of the bass.


Generally, a flat one. However, enhanced treble and brighter sound can sometimes create the illusion of even greater clarity, depending on where the boost is. This is how earphones such as the JVC FX40 and PureSound ClarityOne generally sound clearer than the competition. 

 

If you also want enhanced bass then I agree with Joe, a v-shaped sound is probably best. 

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post #8702 of 10373
11/11/12 at 7:16pm

Okay, pulled the trigger on Shure SE215s.  wish me luck...

 

Gonna continue to use my Koss KSC75's for listening while lying down.  Maybe I'll get MEE M6/S6 later for casual listening.

 

I might post a noob review once I get the Shures.

 

JJ

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post #8703 of 10373
11/11/12 at 10:50pm

Hey Joker, would you pull the trigger on a pair of UE 900s for $250, new? I was thinking about saving up for 1964 Ears' V3s but am wondering if this is a deal too good to pass up.

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post #8704 of 10373
11/11/12 at 11:55pm
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Hey Joker, would you pull the trigger on a pair of UE 900s for $250, new? I was thinking about saving up for 1964 Ears' V3s but am wondering if this is a deal too good to pass up.

Where are you finding these for $250 new!? I want to get a pair!!! eek.gif
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post #8705 of 10373
11/12/12 at 12:37am

+1!!

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post #8706 of 10373
11/12/12 at 12:39am
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Where are you finding these for $250 new!? I want to get a pair!!! eek.gif

+ 2

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post #8707 of 10373
11/12/12 at 2:15am

Hi Joker,

 

Love your work!  My current rig is Fisher DBA-O2 (mk2) with JDS Labs O2.  Love the aggressive analytical detailed sound, though at times the sibilance is bothersome.  Have been thinking of an upgrade, and have been considering the Alclair Reference.  Also looking at the 1964 V3 and the CTM 200.  The Reference sounded good as it provides a nice sounding blend of musicality and detail.  Am ok with full shell monitors.  However since I can't demo all 3 was wondering what your view is - my perfect sound is that of my current rig sans sibilance, and with a flat presentation, a nice blend of musicality and detail, leaning toward detail.  My prefered music is prog, jazz, rock.  I use a ipod classic and only bit rate 256 and above.

 

Many thanks!

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post #8708 of 10373
11/12/12 at 9:06am
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Where are you finding these for $250 new!? I want to get a pair!!! eek.gif

 

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+1!!

 

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Believe me guys, if this was a retailer I would spread the word! I found a local, private seller wanting to get rid of his.

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post #8709 of 10373
11/12/12 at 9:48am
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Believe me guys, if this was a retailer I would spread the word! I found a local, private seller wanting to get rid of his.

I had my hopes up frown.gif
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post #8710 of 10373
11/12/12 at 6:43pm

Hi Joker,


Any schedule in reivewing DUNU  DN-19 Tai Chi. A little bit thoughts could be great. （Not to rush you tongue.gif）

 

I am very interested in those kind of tunable products. The Meelectronics sp51, I have tried it but it's unfortunate not so good with the tuning out come.

 

It's simply only able to tune by yourself. To me it's like a toy and not to mention the SQ. I already tried IE8. It's very good sound thought tuning effect still not so prominent.

 

Just wondering How you see the DN-19's tuning and SQ.  I may probably get one if you think it's good.

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post #8711 of 10373
11/12/12 at 8:06pm
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Originally Posted by Nisten View Post

Hey Joker, would you pull the trigger on a pair of UE 900s for $250, new? I was thinking about saving up for 1964 Ears' V3s but am wondering if this is a deal too good to pass up.

 

It really depends on whether the signature is right for you. The V3 sounds pretty different - bassier, more forward in the midrange, and more intimate in the way records are presented. As an all-rounder the UE900 is pretty darn good for $250 and you'll probably be able to re-sell it and not lose much when you're done with it.

 

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Originally Posted by christobit View Post

Hi Joker,

 

Love your work!  My current rig is Fisher DBA-O2 (mk2) with JDS Labs O2.  Love the aggressive analytical detailed sound, though at times the sibilance is bothersome.  Have been thinking of an upgrade, and have been considering the Alclair Reference.  Also looking at the 1964 V3 and the CTM 200.  The Reference sounded good as it provides a nice sounding blend of musicality and detail.  Am ok with full shell monitors.  However since I can't demo all 3 was wondering what your view is - my perfect sound is that of my current rig sans sibilance, and with a flat presentation, a nice blend of musicality and detail, leaning toward detail.  My prefered music is prog, jazz, rock.  I use a ipod classic and only bit rate 256 and above.

 

Many thanks!

 

Just wrote this up for a PM but figured I might as well re-post it here:

 

Alclair Reference: good bass and clarity, spacious presentation, high levels of detail, can be a bit hot in the treble. Universal counterparts: Phonak PFE232, VSonic GR07

1964EARS 1964-V3: enhanced bass with prominent mids; good dynamics; well-layered presentation; overall "fun" sound. Universal counterparts: AKG K3003, JVC HA-FXT90

ClearTuneMonitors CTM-200: Neutral tone with a balanced signature; spacious presentation, smooth treble, lacks a bit of deep bass; Universal counterparts: HiFiMan RE272, VSonic GR01

 

None of these are perfect - you'll be making trade-offs whichever way you go. The CTM-200 has the smoothest treble but also won't be as detailed and effortless as the Reference (especially in the bass region). The V3 is not as neutral as either of those two but very enjoyable nonetheless. Personally I prefer the signature of the CTM-200 but the technical ability of the Reference redface.gif. 

 

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Hi Joker,


Any schedule in reivewing DUNU  DN-19 Tai Chi. A little bit thoughts could be great. （Not to rush you tongue.gif）

 

I am very interested in those kind of tunable products. The Meelectronics sp51, I have tried it but it's unfortunate not so good with the tuning out come.

 

It's simply only able to tune by yourself. To me it's like a toy and not to mention the SQ. I already tried IE8. It's very good sound thought tuning effect still not so prominent.

 

Just wondering How you see the DN-19's tuning and SQ.  I may probably get one if you think it's good.


Yes, I have a DN-19 in the queue. Currently working on the I 3-CS, though. 

 

The SP51 remains one of the more 'tunable' ones I've heard. Generally the differences with tuning ports are pretty mild. With the DN-19, based on the very limited listening I've done so far, the tuning seems to only affect the bass. I prefer it with the 'flatter' tuning. Not quite sure where it ranks overall at this point but its review shouldn't be far off. 

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post #8712 of 10373
11/12/12 at 8:51pm
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Originally Posted by impoki02 View Post

Hi Joker,


Any schedule in reivewing DUNU  DN-19 Tai Chi. A little bit thoughts could be great. （Not to rush you tongue.gif）

 

I am very interested in those kind of tunable products. The Meelectronics sp51, I have tried it but it's unfortunate not so good with the tuning out come.

 

It's simply only able to tune by yourself. To me it's like a toy and not to mention the SQ. I already tried IE8. It's very good sound thought tuning effect still not so prominent.

 

Just wondering How you see the DN-19's tuning and SQ.  I may probably get one if you think it's good.

 

You can have much more fun with an EQ tongue.gif

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post #8713 of 10373
11/12/12 at 10:15pm

Thanks a ton!  You have helped me rule out the V3.  I'm thinking that CTM-200 paired with JDS O2 would be closer to my current rig (DBA-O2 with JDS O2).  Would that be right?  If so, I'm probably better off going with the Reference for a different yet upgraded option.  Would you agree?

 

Cheers

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post #8714 of 10373
11/13/12 at 2:36am

how does one decide between W4 to UM3x ?

 

and in general: what is the difference between "Universal Monitors" and "Westone Series"?

( http://www.westone.com/music/index.php/products/custom-or-universal.html )

 

so far, had experience with gr06, and fxt90, and waiting on ie80 to arrive...

 

 

thanks!

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post #8715 of 10373
11/13/12 at 10:38am

Joker,

 

What do you think is the most natural non-fatiguing sound signature for listening to both male and female vocals and also what is your perception EPH-100's vocal performance lets say compared to SM3 or UM3X ? I feel like EPH-100 sounds slightly more raw and realistic with vocals whereas SM3 and UM3X make vocals sounds smoother, more silk like but in return slightly less realistic I guess.  I especially notice this with Melody Gardot - Our love is easy. Just wanted to ask your take on this

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