Multi-IEM Review - 352 IEMs compared (Pump Audio Earphones added 04/03/16 p. 1106)
Feb 2, 2012 at 4:48 PM Post #5,851 of 16,931
 
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Which Eterna? Rev. 1 and Rev. 2 both are available here. Could you please tell me the differences between Rev. 1 and Rev. 2 in bass, soundstage, imaging, layering, treble response, mids as compared to the Brainwavz M2. which Rev. Eterna's doesn't bleed into mid-range? which Rev. eterna has extended smooth highs than the M2's? which Rev. will be the best for me as you already know what I'm looking for in the new IEM. Will eterna's an upgrade over M2's for what I'm looking for??????? My source is Nationite Nanite N2.
 
I have noted some points In your eterna's review and comparison:
 
rev. 1 is bassier than the rev. 2
rev. 1 has slightly superior low-end clarity and resolution than the rev. 2.
rev. 1 is also not quite as thick sounding, leading to slightly better air and separation and making the soundstaging seem even more immersive than the rev. 2

rev. 2's evened-out response helps bring the treble into focus, making detail easier to pick out than the rev. 1
rev. 2 has slightly better mid-range presence than the rev. 1
 
Will I be able to notice these differences? which Rev. has more treble? Also both the Rev. has more treble extension than the M2?
 
Help me as I am a bit confused now.
 
 
Thank You.
 
Regards.


I don't think you will notice the differences unless comparing the two directly. If both are available I would just get the rev.1
 
Feb 2, 2012 at 5:04 PM Post #5,852 of 16,931
Is there enough difference to consider an upgrade from Klipsch s4 to Brainwavz M4 earphones? If so, could anyone provide me some tips about these differences ? Does anyone own both of them ? Thanks 
 
Feb 2, 2012 at 5:39 PM Post #5,853 of 16,931

 
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Yes, I think you are. There is no way high output impedance of a source by itself can damage anything physically. If the pops you are thinking of are voltage spikes, they can probably be dangerous as they will result in a lot of current going to the driver, abnormally high driver displacement, etc.
 

 
 
Thanks, Joker - I suspect that many of these fears are based around the size of the drivers in a BA earphone, and their perceived fragility, but its not logical that a company would sell an IEM for $300+ that wasnt able to stand abuse of some description. Most of us have accidentally cranked too much volume into various IEMs, and I havent had one die on me yet - of course, I'd hate to find out that I'm totally off beam. Junking a pair of $300 *anything* isnt on my Bucket List !  :wink:
 
Feb 2, 2012 at 10:23 PM Post #5,854 of 16,931

 
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Is there enough difference to consider an upgrade from Klipsch s4 to Brainwavz M4 earphones? If so, could anyone provide me some tips about these differences ? Does anyone own both of them ? Thanks 


The M4 is fairly new so I think you will find more M4 owners in the dedicated M4 threads, maybe even someone there owns/has owned an S4.
 


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Thanks, Joker - I suspect that many of these fears are based around the size of the drivers in a BA earphone, and their perceived fragility, but its not logical that a company would sell an IEM for $300+ that wasnt able to stand abuse of some description. Most of us have accidentally cranked too much volume into various IEMs, and I havent had one die on me yet - of course, I'd hate to find out that I'm totally off beam. Junking a pair of $300 *anything* isnt on my Bucket List !  :wink:



I think it would be partly on the manufacturer of the amp or source or whatever is giving off the voltage spike. On the upside, there are (with a few exceptions) only two companies making BA drivers and it's probably safe to say these drivers undergo extensive testing.
 
Feb 2, 2012 at 11:03 PM Post #5,856 of 16,931
Man, it's been 3-4 months and I'm having a love/...well hate is too strong a word...frustration relationship with the SM3s.  I love, love the sound, but sometimes the top-end isn't sparkly and extended enough, and couple that with it's overall "thick" sound, and you just don't get enough "breathing space" in it's presentation.  
 
However, I know at this point that I'm asking for far too much from universals.  The only thing that will remedy all my issues is probably a $1K custom.  
 
Just can't justify it...I use the SM3s for an hour's commute every day and to block out people in neighboring cubicles at work.  Maybe I should have posted this in the complain about anything thread.
 
Feb 3, 2012 at 12:21 AM Post #5,857 of 16,931


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Man, it's been 3-4 months and I'm having a love/...well hate is too strong a word...frustration relationship with the SM3s.  I love, love the sound, but sometimes the top-end isn't sparkly and extended enough, and couple that with it's overall "thick" sound, and you just don't get enough "breathing space" in it's presentation.  
 
However, I know at this point that I'm asking for far too much from universals.  The only thing that will remedy all my issues is probably a $1K custom.  
 
Just can't justify it...I use the SM3s for an hour's commute every day and to block out people in neighboring cubicles at work.  Maybe I should have posted this in the complain about anything thread.


Had the same expereince as you when i first got the Sm3s as well but it took me slightly less than 2 months to finally get used to and subsequently enamored with the Sm3's sound. Still, there are times when i want more top end sparkle (although honestly to my ears its top end is rather good). What do i do? Slap on a HS filter @ approx 2kHz by 2-3db. Lifts the slight veil and opens up the sound. I only use this on some albumsI listen to tho. Most of my albums have enough top end information for the SM3 to work with.
 
BTW, i'm using rockbox but I suppose any player with a good parametric equalizer should be able to achieve the same effect.
 
 
Feb 3, 2012 at 4:37 AM Post #5,858 of 16,931


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Hope you do a review of Brainwavz M4... since its release there hasn't been many professionally written reviews and it's sad for good IEMs to not get what they deserve :frowning2:



I hope to have time for them at some point in the future.


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Man, it's been 3-4 months and I'm having a love/...well hate is too strong a word...frustration relationship with the SM3s.  I love, love the sound, but sometimes the top-end isn't sparkly and extended enough, and couple that with it's overall "thick" sound, and you just don't get enough "breathing space" in it's presentation.  
 
However, I know at this point that I'm asking for far too much from universals.  The only thing that will remedy all my issues is probably a $1K custom.  
 
Just can't justify it...I use the SM3s for an hour's commute every day and to block out people in neighboring cubicles at work.  Maybe I should have posted this in the complain about anything thread.



All valid concerns IMO. The thickness and lack of treble energy is why the Earsonics IEMs are not for me (SM2 even more so than SM3). It boggles the mind how atrocious the SM3 sounds in comparison with the EX1000 and vice versa. 
 
Feb 3, 2012 at 5:31 AM Post #5,859 of 16,931


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I don't think you will notice the differences unless comparing the two directly. If both are available I would just get the rev.1


Thank You, I have ordered Fischer Audio Eterna Rev. 1
 
Can you tell me a bit more like which one sounds more clean and clearer between M2 and Eterna Rev. 1?
 
Which one has more treble?
 
Which one has better bass quality, texture?
 
Which one has less mids b/w M2 and Eterna Rev. 1?
 
I want to feel better instruments separation and an airy feel so Will I get that in Eterna Rev. 1?
 
Which one has livelier and upfront presentation between M2 and Eterna Rev. 1?
 
Please answer all of my questions
 
Thank You.
 
Regards....
 
Feb 3, 2012 at 7:11 AM Post #5,860 of 16,931
Hey Joker, 
 
If I had to chose between the FXT90 or C710 for mainly electronic music (looking for quick bass with good impact) and female vocalists (forward midrange) which would you recommend? I can get them for the same price and cant decide between the two, any help would be greatly appreciated!
 
Feb 3, 2012 at 11:29 PM Post #5,863 of 16,931

 
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Thank You, I have ordered Fischer Audio Eterna Rev. 1
 
Can you tell me a bit more like which one sounds more clean and clearer between M2 and Eterna Rev. 1?
 
Which one has more treble?
 
Which one has better bass quality, texture?
 
Which one has less mids b/w M2 and Eterna Rev. 1?
 
I want to feel better instruments separation and an airy feel so Will I get that in Eterna Rev. 1?
 
Which one has livelier and upfront presentation between M2 and Eterna Rev. 1?
 
Please answer all of my questions



Since you've already ordered it, you can be the judge of all that. Much more reliable than my 1+ year old impressions.


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Hey Joker, 
 
If I had to chose between the FXT90 or C710 for mainly electronic music (looking for quick bass with good impact) and female vocalists (forward midrange) which would you recommend? I can get them for the same price and cant decide between the two, any help would be greatly appreciated!


I would go for the FXT90. The mids of the C710 weren't forward at all - I thought its sig was a shallow v-shape. I was also never all that impressed by the tone of the Denons - I think the JVCs are easily the more natural-sounding pair.
 


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How is this thread not stickied on this forum!? I hate when this thread gets buried like 3 pages in : (


I don't get thread notifications anymore so I usually have to go looking for it too.
 
Feb 4, 2012 at 3:48 AM Post #5,865 of 16,931


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Since you've already ordered it, you can be the judge of all that. Much more reliable than my 1+ year old impressions.


 
Once My eterna's arrive, I will try my level best to tell you that how it is sounding as compared to M2's and Will it be able to fulfill what I was looking for.
 
Thank You Joker for your help
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Best Regards.
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