What headphone are you using? The M50 perhaps?
What headphone are you using? The M50 perhaps?
yes the m50s thats whats the thread is about :P
so now im just using them un equalized. Personally i think that sounds best for me, but i use Wasapi aswell so a little better :)
sorry for ****ty enlish, im from sweden
If you're using foobar, download the VST wrapper and try a decent parametric EQ, like Electi-Q.
i was using the electri-Q with Jerg's eq(user here on the forum) but when using his eq my headphones started to distort in the mids around 1-1,8khz (i think) since those were pretty high in his eq
Try an all pass filter to bring the overall level below 0db.
ive done a new eq now, a bit similar to jergs , but alot flatter in 1khz-10khz and i started to like it now, plus i noticed that mostly the crackling/scrap noise is from ****ty rips, cause iron maiden in 128kbps(early stuff) sounds better than a newer band in 320kbps
another thing: should i replace my audigy 2 zs that goes to my h/k avr-20 amp with a like e7/e9 fiiO combo or am i good now?
i can strech as far as 230usd but i must be buyable in sweden for amp/dac combo if needed
My M50's can be a little fatiguing for me as well. I think it is probably the highs too, is there anything else that makes headphones fatiguing to listen to?
The M50s are great, but I somewhat still prefer my Alessandro MS1i.
The MS1is can really get the highs and mids bursting out with life! It's just amazing. Whereas the M50s, it's kind of covered up. I just did a short test to a J-Rock song, and when I was listening to the song with the M50s I had this feeling, when the highs are suppose to hit this certain level, it just doesn't with the M50s. It's as if someone is teasing with you, you jump up to grab an object off a persons hand, and you're nearly there, sooo close to grabbing it, and then the person who is teasing you moves their hands up higher and you don't get the object. Yeah, it's like that. You get hyped for something but it doesn't come. Yeah, that's the feeling I got when I was comparing the MS1i's to the M50's with Highs/Mids.
The bass is a definite win on the M50's. Strong and thumping, great for electronica music, no doubt. The MS1i's has a decent bass to it, which I don't mind for rock, jazz and classical.
Rock, Jazz and Classical has to be the MS1's.
Electronic, R&B and Pop is to be handed to the M50's.
Haha well yes every day i do fall more and more in love with these headphones.
A few things i noticed, not bad things, is that for a low impedence phone these are pretty sensitive to bitrate. Im not sure if these were rumored to be more "forgiving" to lower bitrate files, but i can honestly vouch they sound about 15 times better on lossless with a good original recording...
192k bitrate users beware!! :D
Also, they sound atleast twice as good amped, even out of a small portable budget amp. The bass tightens up instead of being AS boomy, and rolls off when its supposed to, while still keeping the same high power, the midrange comes up front and sticks in its nose to see what all the rackets about, and the highs decided to stop stabbing you in the face in high pitched guitar notes !!! :D
When tweaked in the right way, these are $500 dollar phones.
EDIT: By the way, I'm listening to "Mac Dre - Get Stupid" right now and the throbbing bass in the beginning almost blew my head off, in a good way :)
LOVE LOVE LOVE them :)
We have different sound-cards, so the resulting signal will be difference hence the same EQ will sound different.
On the other hand, if you get a DAC/amp (e.g. E7+E9, or plain E7 which I got recently) then it's more feasible to share EQ files in-between us because it will be the same signals. Anyway I had to remake a completely different EQ file for my M50's coming out of E7 DACing out of my laptop.
OK, thease cans are great. By far technicaly the best of the ones I own (I'll have to check my friends AKG K121 Studio and see how they compare). I sometimes enjoy Philips SHE9850 more, one for their warm, thick and a bit laid back sound, two for the intimacy they give me with their isolation.
To the point:
I didn't enjoy them fully until I EQ'ed them.
I've made this mostly according to this guide
The two down-facing spikes were "detected" using this program:
4267Hz with bandwidth of 0.14 -5,5db
9228Hz with bandwidth of 0.14 -6,5db
The gain is at around 1kHz, bandwidth 3,5 +1,2 db
AFAIK you have to find the spikes yourself, because different people have different frequencies of resonance. The gain is for "forwarding" the midrange.
Now they sound reeeeeeeaaally good.
I hope this may help someone who finds them piercing or hears metallic sounding treble.
edit: I think that plugging them into amp (Luxman L-230) makes them warmer and fuller sounding than direct from soundcard.
edit 2: the gain in the midrange sometimes (when listening to older ripped mp3, when I didn't care about SQ) overdrives my soundcard a little bit, but when the track gain is controlled, everything's fine
I'm EQing my M50's and my graph is similar to yours. I havn't bumped up the midrange, but the peaks aroudn 4500 and 9000 were bugging me. Taking care of these has made these headphoens already much nicer to listen to
EDIT: Holy s**t, are these the same headphones!? No harshness, I love it!
I've just bought a pair of these second hand for a good price.
I really don't know what to expect. I've never had any good gear before. I remember how good i though my Sennheiser cx300 IEMs sounded when i got them.
Hopefully i'll get that feeling again :P
Just got mine last week and I've been enjoying them a lot so far. The bass is great for hip hop and electronic stuff. These remind me of the Denon AH-D2000s that I used to have but without the terrible sibilance (and the headband is practically the same). I was considering keeping these as my sole headphones, but I did spend some time with my HD650s again and I can't quite manage to part with them. These are definitely the best bang-for-the-buck headphones I've owned, and I've owned quite a few.