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post #61 of 1397
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Originally Posted by plonter View Post





don't know about you..but i really like some extra bass punch with my music,the RE0 should be more balanced,neutral sounding and less "fun".  don't get this wrong,I think that the M50 are well balanced but have just a little bit emphasis on the bass and also tiny bit recessed mids.    

have you ever used IEM's before?  

Yeah I used IEMs before. People sometimes say they are uncomfortable but I don't have a problem with them at all. What does well balance mean? Sorry, I'm pretty much new to all this.
 

post #62 of 1397

balanced means that all the spectrum (bass,mids,highs) is evenly sound, without spikes. like a straight line.   ofcourse that the meaning" balanced"can be subjective.  it is possible that for someone's ears a very v-shaped headphones like the D5000 could sound "balanced" to his ears.

neutral means that no frequency gets emphasised..theoretically on the 0 line of the frequency graph.  

post #63 of 1397

Ah so I guess it is subjective to if that is good for you? So from what I hear, the re0 is more balanced while the M50 puts a bit more emphasis on things but most people tend to like that emphasis?

post #64 of 1397
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Originally Posted by CommonerCoffee View Post

Ah so I guess it is subjective to if that is good for you? So from what I hear, the re0 is more balanced while the M50 puts a bit more emphasis on things but most people tend to like that emphasis?



perhaps..i have never read a direct comparison between the two.   you ALWAYS shoud look for what is best for you,what sounds good to you and not others.  your ears know best!

since the M50 are not as "portable" as the RE0, you will need to find a way to handle their rather long cable...but i think that others can advice on that issue.  i personally use a pair of pk2 earphones with my portable..I like to be as portable as possible..but that's me.

soundwise,you should go for the sound sig you like.   others will probably contribute their opinion also.   

this forum is a little biased for the M50... for a good reason if you ask me.


Edited by plonter - 5/30/10 at 8:01pm
post #65 of 1397

My brother just got a pair of RE0 and I already have the M50 kicking around. I would say personally I enjoy the M50 more.

 

I only listened to the RE0 a little bit and it was before they had much burn in, (probably still only have about 20 hours on them, and from what I've read the RE0 like to have around 75 - 100 hours till they find their final sound signature) my initial impressions were that they are balanced from the mid bass up to the lower high frequency's. The bass though does seem rolled off a bit (although very accurate) and the highs may be a little hot (almost harsh at times) but they sure do extend.

 

The M50 on the other hand, while they may have a bit of the V shaped frequency response (balance has pronounced bass and highs) it does equal a fun listen most of the time. Also it feels really smooth, I don't want to say laid back cause they are not, but they seem less in your face than the RE0. Also they seem to not be as power hungry as the RE0 which almost beg to be cranked for them to open up.

 

As for the music you listen to, I think a lot of those genres tend to require prominent bass that the M50 can supply in gobs.

post #66 of 1397

As the m50 is my first "real"  headphone I can't really compare it with anything else I just know I love em ;)

post #67 of 1397

As the m50 is my first "real"  headphone I can't really compare it with anything else I just know I love em ;)

 

Somewhere in this threat someone mentioned the phones where not very comfortable I would like to comment on that.

 

I agree that at first the m50 is pretty tight but after a bit of stretching / daily wear it improves a lot but after 3 months or so wearing these to work (i travel 4.5 hours for-

 

And he mentioned that the earpads are a bit on the small side? I have pretty large ears and they fit me without any troubles.

 

I recommend the m50 as a nice first headphone good quality for a awesome price :)

post #68 of 1397
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Luckilly I've found the M50s very comfy, more so than my MS1s and my old AD900s...

 

I'd say the RE0 would sound quite different from the M50. If you like bass and a smooth but still lively sound, the M50s are great. From what I understand the RE0s are a little more 'serious' sounding, with less bass. Both choices I think are quite versatile for many different forms of music. Both are probably very nice entry points for the world of headphones...

 

People with really big ears could easily try the phat pad mod on the M50s... 

post #69 of 1397

Joining the fun. Love these headphones and in a way, I feel a little bad because I have some big names sitting around and with the m50s, it makes it somewhat less of a reason to use them. Right now the closed back sound is taken by the m50s, but I will sometimes pull out my original k271s and when I get some leather earpads, my DT770s will get some play, but right now, the m50s handle the closed back duties unless I am on the road. I still think my XB700s sound better out of the sansa, but only by a hair and one person would go one way and one would go the other. I could easily live without the XBs if I had to, but I prefer them due to the fact that they seem to be made for mobile listening, their bag can hold my sansa, and other items, plus, they take very little power to sound full. The m50s are just about the best closed back sound out of my e-mu 0202 I have *ever* heard. I prefer them out the 0202, even though I can play them through the MHDT DAC GF tube buffer and my little Mackie, that is overkill.

 

All these need is some adequite preamplification al la the 0202, and I can play with upsampling or not, either sounds good, but I tend to listen to the m50s at the office. I will listen to more open cans there, but it takes my DT880s to get close to the quality of sound, and they need more power, can't really be driven by the sansa, and the 0202 stresses.

 

So, the open phones, beyer, grado, they tend to be at home off the Mackie and NOS DAC. The m50s drive with ease so naturally, they, and their long cable, work out great at work where all I can get away with is the little e-mu.

 

I wonder how the new shure 750s compare, but I don't think things could be much *better* just different.

 

Right now, team AT M50s.

post #70 of 1397

@CommonerCoffee: RE0 is in different league compared to M50 - the former is much more hi-fi if you ask me. If you want more bass, wait for the RE-ZERO.

post #71 of 1397

man i love these headphones.

 

i just bought a pair for my cousin, for his high school graduation.

heck, every college kid needs a good pair of closed headphones. 

post #72 of 1397

After around 100 hours  (probably more, since I left it on my computer once while the music was playing and forgot all about it) on my ATH-M50, I think they're really worth the price.

 

The sounds that you get are really quite clear and sharp. I listen to mostly korean and japanese music (mostly upbeat, bassy dance songs, and some bands) and it performs quite well. What I really like about the M50s is the fact that I am now able to hear some sounds that I have not heard before in my music files. I mean I can hear some distinct cheers during concerts or some instruments that I previously did not notice when using some lower type of head or earphones.

 

Of course, there is a problem to it too. Some poor rips (i had 112kbps rips of some music back when I was saving hard drive space) are bad as you can easily hear some crackle or noise.

 

Another thing, Sound doesn't seem to leak too. I used them on the plane, and the people seating next to me didn't seem to mind. They said they didn't really hear a thing when I had them on. I don't think they provide very good isolation you though, you can still hear some chatter or some background noise.

 

A couple of days ago, I  had my ATH-SJ3 fixed (they were my first headphones, got them for design). I then listened to my music collection on them, and I was amused. I remembered when I first got my SJ3s, I thought they were a very big upgrade over my stock earbuds/sennheiser earbuds (mx something, the cheapest ones).

 

But after spending some time with my M50, I already began to realize just how muddled the sound quality of the SJ3 was. I am (my wallet is)  hoping that this would not lead to a scary slope wherein I would begin purchasing better and more expensive headphones :D  I think the M50s are a gateway drug to the world of audiophiles.

 

 

I am using it now (just bought it today) with a Fiio E1 amp. My source is mainly an ipod touch, and i truly enjoyed the ability to control it using the remote. I auditioned it with an E1 and an E5 and honestly, the e5 sounded a tad better (more bass) but I really liked the remote functionality so I got that.

 

However, I don't think you really need to spend on an amp for the M50 as it can sound quite nice unamped anyway.

 

Final Point:

Cable are tough, tips are durable, but they seem to be  too long for portable purposes (which I usually do)add the 2 feet of the Fiio E1 and I really have a whip with me when I go around.

 

I get around this by using velcro strips for the headphone cable and tie wire for the Fiio E1 :D

post #73 of 1397

yeah..using them right now with my cowon D2,sound fantastic!  all you need is a good player and a bunch of lossless files and you set.   the thing that really proofs that they are HI-FI is that they scale nicely with better systems.  with my home rig you can definitely catch the difference and refinement comparing to the portable player.

post #74 of 1397
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Originally Posted by plonter View Post

yeah..using them right now with my cowon D2,sound fantastic!  all you need is a good player and a bunch of lossless files and you set.   the thing that really proofs that they are HI-FI is that they scale nicely with better systems.  with my home rig you can definitely catch the difference and refinement comparing to the portable player.


+1
 

post #75 of 1397

Sorry to bump a 5-day old thread , but I'm experiencing some problems with the spring located at the end of the adapter..

 

Basically somehow I managed to yank that thing out , don't know how I did it though. And I now I can't seem to push it back ! No matter how hard I try , that thing just doesn't fit in..

 

Does anyone had this problem and managed to solve it? I would really appreciate some help..

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