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post #106 of 894
I took the plunge today. All I can say is: wow.

To my ears, there are very little microphonics, NO occlusion/bone conduction (aka, "foot-step syndrome"), and I effortlessly achieved an instantaneous, seamless fit with the default tips attached. I haven't even experimented with the other two sizes. I just don't want to take them out of my ears, I don't want to spoil this perfect experience.

Beyond comfort, there is so, so much more I can say. The SQ on these things have given me chills, and made my heart go "thump" more than a few times. When I have the time and opportunity, not mention some more burn-in hours clocked, I am determined to write these an extensive review. The HJE900 simply deserve it. I feel like I owe Panasonic my written gratitude.

Thank you guys for bearing with my nit-picky questions, and thank you to all who posted in this thread, having finally convinced me they're worth the purchase--which they certainly are
post #107 of 894
Welcome to the HJE900 family, you've got some mighty good listenin' ahead of you with your purchase!
post #108 of 894
x2, welcome, congrats on your purchase and glad you like your little Pannies!

BTW I hope you don't mind me giving an example of why it is so hard recommending phones:

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Originally Posted by Pinedon View Post
Lack of bass is a big factor in my purchasing these phones, since I often feel that bass presence, even when it's accurate and fast, steals my attention away from the other parts of music that are more important to me (typically, highs and soundstage).
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I like my phones lean, bright, and clear at all costs
Based on this, I wouldn't have dared recommending the HJE900 to you, yet it turns out you love them.

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Originally Posted by Max F View Post
I'm not a bass head, but bass is very important to me especially with drums. I need the impact. That's why I worry about the RE0 not having enough bass.
I felt reasonably safe recommending the HJE900 to this Head-Fier, yet it turned out he hated them.
post #109 of 894
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Originally Posted by james444 View Post
Based on this, I wouldn't have dared recommending the HJE900 to you, yet it turns out you love them.
Well, my rationale at the time of that post was:

I love my AD900 --> therefore --> I would probably do best to purchase something very similar to its sound signature.

The flaw in my logic, however, was my inability to conceive of a phone that could produce deep, plentiful bass without compromising the highs, the imaging, and the soundstage!! And so, the vibrant musicality and intimacy of these phones do things for me the leaner AD900 never dares to approach, and I feel as if I'm discovering my real sound preferences for the first time. The instruments have never sounded so real to my ears through any headphones--open, closed, circumaural, IEM, what have you--prior to the HJE900. I have never felt "tricked" like this, as if I were really, actually in a recording studio or something. I'm just so grateful to have the iphone 3gs, however, because the magic just isn't there when I plug them into my laptop. Although, I wouldn't say an inferior source or bitrate ruins my listening experience, but that they both take away from that feeling of being completely blown away.

I apologize if any of this sounds grossly hyperbolic, but this is really how I feel about them, no lie. I'm going through artists and albums I haven't played through in months, finding so much more to appreciate in them than I once supposed. Everything just comes to life for me. More than once, I have felt as if my musical preferences are in the process of being disintegrated and rebuilt from the ground-up.

And for once in my life, I am grateful for my height of 5 feet and 6 inches: I find the chord a *perfect* length from ears to front pocket. No tugging whatsoever. The only complaint I can think of is that, due to their heavier weight, I can feel them ever so slightly slip out from my ears as I walk and the chord jerks downward. A simple shirt clip should amend this, however. Hopefully my local radioshack has them in stock, and for cheap.

I am just so impressed. I thought I was through with IEM's--but of course, we all get curious here at headfi . These phones are the musical fantasy I never dared to even dream. I hope I never lose them, and I hope Panasonic never stops producing them.
post #110 of 894
Thread Starter 
Hahah James, I was thinking the same exact thing.

Anyways, great to hear you like them so much!

I haven't given my HJE900s as much listening as usual recently, because my laptop's sound jack is messed up, and I don't wanna risk messing up the my CZs cable by fidgeting to get the darned port to work. Even worse, I lost the darn adapter I need to connect headphones to my celphone; I do most of my listening on my cel phone. Thankfully, I bought another one today, and putting my HJE900s back in my ears has been wonderful.

How do you wear them? The cord cinch they have doesn't have too much grip when worn cord-down, but it works wonderfully when the headphones are worn over the ear for me. Just pull it up near your chin, and it should stay nice and tight.

Glad you're enjoying your purchase =] If panasonic makes and HJE1000, I'll be first in line!
post #111 of 894
Makes me wonder if mine were defective. They could have a QC problem. I'm not the only one that thought they sounded completely strange though.

My favorite comment was someone that was ranking all the IEMs that they've listened to and said that the HJE900 sounded like a monkey took over their EQ.

Anyway, its all part of the process. Reminded me when I ordered my first quality full size HP - the Allesandro MS-1. Those puppies made my ears bleed. The experienced showed me that I don't like Grado sound and pointed me to the Sennheiser brand which I'm very grateful for.
post #112 of 894
Thread Starter 
Might be, but it's unlikely. The frequency response is pretty polarizing, I think. I have trouble calling them strictly U or V shaped, because I don't find them to be so mid-recessed or the bass or highs to be emphasized, but rather as having a medium size bump in the mid-bass(which I believe calms down with burn in) and a shortish spike in the treble. It's definitely not flat, but it seems to work with what me and James call "life-like". You seem to prefer that relatively laid-back sennheiser house sound signature, and these are definitely not laid-back XD. But to each his or her own! That's the nature of this expensive hobby :P
post #113 of 894
Been burning mine in a bit and they are still a bit harsh... very crisp and i would think it is more high oriented.

great punch though
post #114 of 894
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Originally Posted by daveyostrow View Post
Been burning mine in a bit and they are still a bit harsh... very crisp and i would think it is more high oriented.

great punch though

I thought the same thing at first, it does calm down and smooth out after awhile. I find mine very natural and even sounding nowadays,and love the sound signature the best of anything i've heard. (not that i'll quit looking)
post #115 of 894
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by daveyostrow View Post
Been burning mine in a bit and they are still a bit harsh... very crisp and i would think it is more high oriented.

great punch though
Since everyone hears things differently, if you find them too harsh you can try changing tips. Complies and Triple flanges will attenuate the treble a lot. Sony hybrids will attenuate it a tiny bit, while warming up the sound signature a little bit.

Perhaps more easily though, you can just foam mod them. Get some very light foam from somewhere, such as the foam you may find on a microphone or on earbud earpieces, and cut it into pieces small enough to fit the nozzle. You'll have to remove the filter first though(I'm not sure how this is done, mine just fell out one day, lol). That will give you fine control over the amout of treble attenuation. I personally have only the tiniest of foam so that a sound difference is virtually imperceptible, I only really did it to protect the drivers.
post #116 of 894
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Originally Posted by h20buzz View Post
...the best of anything i've heard. (not that i'll quit looking)
I hear you, and feel you?

I have a few tips and will probably use a foam but dont know how big to make it (tube it to really fill the chamber, or just to cover the rim) and maybe even try and put the grill back on.

what do you guys think, too much foam a no-no?
post #117 of 894
^ Use only a 4-5mm piece of light foam and be careful just to put it in shallowly, or else you risk damaging the drivers.
As an alternative you can also try a tiny piece of cotton swab, like in this mod.
post #118 of 894

I'm listening to detail like the RE0, with bass like Turbines. If the street price settles at $130, you can kiss the Monster Golds bye-bye. They're no match.

post #119 of 894
Thread Starter 

Buahaha, more people falling into the Panny Wagon.


They may not be diamonds, but they're close enough =P


Edited by Napilopez - 5/7/10 at 3:41am
post #120 of 894

^^ To plagiarize Monster's catchphrase, I think of the HJE900 as RE0 with an added subwoofer.  smiley

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