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Sooo, seeing as they're getting more popular by the day, I thought these awesome little phones deserved their own appreciation thread by now. I'll update this with a review, possibly tomorrow, which I'm somewhat weary about as these are my first "real" IEM purchase, but man, am I satisfied.

Share some love. Why did you enjoy the HJE900s(also known as CZs for their cubic ziconium housing)?

Several reasons for me.

Firstly, they are so unique. How many IEMs do you know that are made out of cubic zirconium, a material approaching the strength of diamonds?

Following from that, these are uber durable. Except for the unfortunate falling out of the nozzle filters, these things feel like they could last forever, particularly because of the housing and user replaceable cables.

They look awesome. For me, they present the perfect balance of outward attractiveness and an understated look. The dark silvver cable connectors in particular look classy without being showy(ahem MTPG). The cubic Zirconium itself has to be seen under different lighting conditions to be appreciated. Sometimes the look metalic. Sometimes they look more jewel like. Sometimes they look a dark sea green, others a strong blue. In the sunlight, they almost seem to glow, as they seem to have a way of holding the light within them. Sounds weird, I know. Yet they do all this without being gaudy.

But more than all is the sound. I simply haven't been this satisfied, and I do not feel compelled to upgrade phones at all. Actually, I want to upgrade my source, because these guys seem to be revelaling just how inadequate my sources are, despite their great efficiency.

They are that rare type of headphone that just sounds good with any genre, at least to me. They really surprised me when I first heard them, because I never realized higher drums could hit so hard, like it actually had some sort of body to it. It has a bit of that treble smack, upper mid kick, and bass tackle. The bass is nicely textured and there is certainly plenty of it, without being excessive imo. The mids are what I call crisp. Soundstage is realistic, and can be both wide and intimate, depending on the track.

In summary, the CZs may not be the best at any one particular area, but they sure as heck are one of the best of being at least decent at pretty much everything I can think of. I don't feel like I've made any real compromises with my purchase of these, and that's why I love them. ^_^
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I'm glad to see this thread initiated. I thought i was the only one that found these little buggers a great experience to own. There's so much to like and so little to dislike about 'em for me, and i was starting to think i was alone on that. Too late tonight for me to give my impressions of why they push my buttons, but i'll be making a return visit.
post #3 of 872
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Indeed, they have a great balance of being "fun" and "analytical". Detailed but energetic, while still knowing to let back when they need to.
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Did you lose your nozzle filter? I am skeptical about that part of the housing as it seems to get easily clogged with "detritus".

How do you keep the housing clean without harming the driver if there is no nozzle filter?

They sound great and fit me very comfortably, especially compared with the UE iem I was using previously.
post #5 of 872
I need to try these out one of these days..if only I had the money (and time) right now :P
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Originally Posted by the reverend View Post
Did you lose your nozzle filter? I am skeptical about that part of the housing as it seems to get easily clogged with "detritus".

How do you keep the housing clean without harming the driver if there is no nozzle filter?

They sound great and fit me very comfortably, especially compared with the UE iem I was using previously.
Yes I did. A good portion of HJE900 users have it foam modded I believe, and I'm considering doing so to mine once I buy some nice UE tips(lost the stock ones). Besides balancing out the treble without killing it, it also protects the driver.
post #7 of 872
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Bumpity Bumpification.
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In summary, the CZs may not be the best at any one particular area, but they sure as heck are one of the best of being at least decent at pretty much everything I can think of. I don't feel like I've made any real compromises with my purchase of these, and that's why I love them. ^_^

and foam modded with comply tips back to front.

Bought and sold many, many IEMs and always ended up selling because something was 'missing', and I've owned a few! Many of which, were more expensive than the Panasonics.

Highs don't leave me wanting, lows don't leave me wanting, and mids leave me satisified (got around 1000 hours on these now, mids have improved since I bought them imo).

I'm glad they have finally been recognized.

Satisified with my portable set up, and my home set up, after a long time of trying
post #9 of 872
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I am quite satisfied myself. I think the only thing I'm really missing is something with a really wide soundstage. I also just need a better DAC. Ordering UE tips for my HJE900s soon and the foam modding them.
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In summary, the CZs may not be the best at any one particular area, but they sure as heck are one of the best of being at least decent at pretty much everything I can think of. I don't feel like I've made any real compromises with my purchase of these, and that's why I love them. ^_^
Hi Napilopez, great sum up of this deserving IEMs! They are my favorite knock around phones for commuting and such, built like a tank so I don't have to worry about stuffing them in a pocket, while at the same time sounding very, very good.

BTW, is your review still pending?
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OK, i have come to terms with it. I will be snagging a second pair of these to put away "just in case". I Never thought i'd consider doing that with anything. I've had my 900's for essentially 2 months and my initial "out of box" impressions were that they sounded pretty good, but a bit bright for my tastes. I listened briefly, kept an open mind,as i usually try to do, and allowed them the better part of 50 hours play time before i resumed listening and fiddling with different tips. My comfortable and properly sealing fit found with the Comply foams, i found what i've really been looking for.

Close your eyes and imagine yourself in a small intimate showroom with excellent acoustics watching one of your favorite performers. The guys at the board have the mix just right. The vocals are the centerpiece,clear and natural.. the sound of the rhythm section is very present, solid and tight, not muddy and in the way..the guitar and piano sound silky smooth. They break into one of your favorite songs and the hair on your neck stands up.

Congratulations, and welcome to my world with the HJE900's. I do indeed go to many,many concerts in a small intimate showroom with good acoustics and have been blessed to have excellent seats to watch many of my favorite performers. I have definitely found a personal sweet spot with the 900's that puts me close to that experience. I wish everyone that owned them could find it too. I thought i was going to find it when i got my IE8 and then later my Pro Gold...both of which i like...but for soundstage, imaging, smooth midrange, punchy bass (they out-Monster my Golds "subwoofer in your ear" by a lot) and clear, extended-but-not-too-much treble my 900's hit the bullseye.

I have a bunch of IEM's that i listen to and appreciate for different strengths, but i just can't seem to keep the 900's out of my ear for any length of time.

Happy listening, gang.
post #12 of 872
i feel like im missing something with these
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I'm glad to see someone has started this thread. I've been really enjoying mine, haven't had a problem with bright treble at all either. (Really like the treble actually!)

Would have started it myself but I'm a newb here and I thought it would be poor form.. it's good seeing them being appreciated.

They have more detail than any headphone I've ever owned, and a good amount of bass. My only complaint would be the deeper sub-bass isn't as heavy as the mid-bass, but aside from that they're just what I want. Money well spent, especially seeing as they'll probably last longer than I could possibly need them for.
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Originally Posted by mark2410 View Post
i feel like im missing something with these
Might be tips, source, or bad luck =P You seem like a mid centric-guy though from what I've read, and though I find the CZs to be balanced in their own weird way(in the sense that it's not signifcantly lacking in any area), I don't think I'd call it a mid centric phone. What tips do you use?
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Is there a consensus yet on whether or not the sound of these changes much? I've seen one yay, one nay.
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