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post #91 of 2252
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Originally Posted by dig View Post
Hi everyone,

Just got my set of MD's yesterday, and have been listening to them non stop. One thing I noticed, and I've PM'ed Search already about, is the severe microphonics that I've been experiencing. Does anyone else have this problem? It seems like even when I'm just walking or moving a little, I can hear some impedance.

I have found that wearing them over the ear helps tremendously. Can MD owners speak on this? Do you prefer them worn around ear or straight down?

Thanks in advance!
This is the worst news I could possibly get. I aboslutely hate Microphonics. I primarily use my IEMs for travel and this could be a deal breaker. I loved the sound of the RE0, I only sold them because of the microphonics.

I am really dissapointed to hear this. I guess I should have asked around first before I bought them.

post #92 of 2252
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Originally Posted by Father Schu View Post
Sweet! Thanks ericp10 for posting this right on time. And to think I was just about to call J and R and negotiate a price (we are talking within minutes!). $190 delivered. As for the MD's, these are probably too limited-specialty for Dell to carry. JandR will probably continue to be the best deal there unless these ultimately don't sell in the limited quantity produced. Monster might then unload them on some deal oriented retailers.
$190 FOR COPPERS FROM J AND R? Great deal @ Father Schu. I have no doubt you will enjoy them... I will keep hope alive on the MDs at a decent price as I save up...lol
post #93 of 2252
I hear no microphonics with the Coppers. That's interesting...
post #94 of 2252
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Originally Posted by ericp10 View Post
Cool... I think based on what you told me about the Miles that you will like the Coppers. I think I'm quite a bit high on the Coppers more than search is. They are reference like quality to me with bass. The other thing you and I discussed should go out next week too. Enjoy.
Yes, you are just a little more enthused with the copper than I am, and at least part of the reason, is that for me, the ND's are a much less fussy fit.
I would warn everyone that it's a close call, the MD fit deeper in, so I feel I get the best of them, and only 90 percent of the cppers (most times) if I fiddle with them, I get the big picture, I need to go to readio shack, and dig through my boxes of tips to make a truly fair comparison. I am trying to find an elusive (Quick and Good) fit for 2 pairs of iem's and getting everything else done, The pfe tips will probably be the end of the road for some, they are close for me, but I still have to fuss around with them on the copper's
it's mostly a soundstage difference. The coppers are a very good iem. @ eric, after this deal alert, you really should be punished! I doubt chris needs your help emptying his wallet
post #95 of 2252
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Originally Posted by ericp10 View Post
$190 FOR COPPERS FROM J AND R? Great deal @ Father Schu. I have no doubt you will enjoy them... I will keep hope alive on the MDs at a decent price as I save up...lol
My post may have been confusing. I was going to order from J and R when I saw your post about Dell. The Dell total cost was $190 shipped which is probably at least 30-40 less then the JR cost. Thanks again for the info.
post #96 of 2252
Concerning microphonics, keep in mind that dig is just getting back into iem's I don't find any of the Monsters to have much microphonics, espicially compared to others that do have problems. The wire is thinner on The MD........it is very easy to manage.
post #97 of 2252
Trust I am being punished @ search...lol Not patient enough to wait for a deal like this that I felt in my heart was coming....lol.. But I'm still happy (and punished). Why should I be the only one who suffers? lol
post #98 of 2252
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Originally Posted by dig View Post
Hi everyone,

Just got my set of MD's yesterday, and have been listening to them non stop. One thing I noticed, and I've PM'ed Search already about, is the severe microphonics that I've been experiencing. Does anyone else have this problem? It seems like even when I'm just walking or moving a little, I can hear some impedance.

I have found that wearing them over the ear helps tremendously. Can MD owners speak on this? Do you prefer them worn around ear or straight down?

Thanks in advance!
I own the Coppers and the MD's. The reason for the microphonics on the MD's is that the cable is unfortunately thinner than on the Coppers. TO illustrate, the thickest cable on the MD's (single line to plug) are the thickness of the thinnest cables on the Coppers (lines out to earpieces).

That was disappointing and made the MD's feel cheaper.

HOwever, The MD's, for now at least, best the Coppers in sound for me. Somehow, they manage to be as detailed as the Coppers, but with bigger, yet complete, bass, and better separation and soundstage. The MD's seem to maintain all the detail while making the music fuller and more lively.
post #99 of 2252
zeluiz22...do you also experience a lot of microphonics, or is it manageable???

Maybe I can cover the cable with a layer of braided metal techflex followed by nylon multifilament techflex to reduce noise. Only problem is finding a size small enough
post #100 of 2252
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Originally Posted by the search never ends View Post
Yes, you are just a little more enthused with the copper than I am, and at least part of the reason, is that for me, the ND's are a much less fussy fit.
I would warn everyone that it's a close call, the MD fit deeper in, so I feel I get the best of them, and only 90 percent of the cppers (most times) if I fiddle with them, I get the big picture, I need to go to readio shack, and dig through my boxes of tips to make a truly fair comparison. I am trying to find an elusive (Quick and Good) fit for 2 pairs of iem's and getting everything else done, The pfe tips will probably be the end of the road for some, they are close for me, but I still have to fuss around with them on the copper's
it's mostly a soundstage difference. The coppers are a very good iem. @ eric, after this deal alert, you really should be punished! I doubt chris needs your help emptying his wallet
I agree, the pfe are very nice, but also very fiddly to get the right sound.
I got the sony hybrids yesterday, they sound a little veiled somewhere in the mids but may bring out the treble just a little more than the pfe tips, I'll need to listen more but I don't think the Sony tips will be the favorite except maybe for someone looking for that tiny bit more sparkle.

I'll be interested to see what you think of the auvio (radioshack) tips. Just look at them when you get them, the hole is much larger and a bit shorter than the pfe tips, and the sound is like dunking your head in the music, yet it's also more spacious. I was thinking there may be a bit of a tradeoff with detail, but really, you can hear everything in a piece like this
YouTube - Mahler - Symphony No. 8 - Ending (Rattle, NYOGB)
(Look at this for a test of soundstage!)

And auvio tips are super easy to insert. Non-fiddly. No weird pressure build up or wonky sound muffle that takes a few moments to free up. I think maybe isolation isn't the best, but if I wanted that, I'd use the rubber supertips (foam supertips are in the mail, I'm looking forward to hearing those). Anyway, I think you'll see that the auvio tips bring a different sound out of the coppers.
post #101 of 2252
Thanks for the responses everyone. Like Search pointed out, it has been a while since I've used gotten IEM's, with my last pair being Shure E2C's. Maybe I'm just more sensitive to them now? Who knows. The thing that I am most worried about is whether this is normal or if I possibly have a defective unit.

I actually emailed Monster about this, and they want me to send it back in. I figured I would ask this once again, and again I apologize if I am not using the right language to describe the problem.

Question for all MD owners - when you're listening and you tap the thinner cables (after it splits from the 2 to 1) are you able to hear it quite clearly? Even when I brush the cables, or tap them slightly, it is very very noticeable and dramatically impacts the sound quality. I'm hoping that this might just be an issue with my set, and if so, I guess I'll have to send it in. Otherwise, the thicker cables for the Coppers would be my next test!
post #102 of 2252
@ dig.. Yes I can hear it a bit more on the MD set, after using the clip, nothing, the copper a touch less, and finally the gold even less.yes, all 3 use different wiring.
Hope that helps.

@ Kunlun, nice post..I will let you know what I think about the radio Shack tips, Heck I may even buy a pair of those iem's (man I got problems) I saw they wer on sale for I don't remember. Anyone know where I can get cheap storage for iem's?

Finally, I am going to pull the trigger on the null cables for the Triple.fi's unless anyone knows of a better route. If you know a beeter route, please pm me, I don't want to derail Chris's thread any further. Oh. and Eric.You can.........

Edit: From what I've heard from dig......I can't come close to what he's describing, when I push the slider up near my chin, it's tough to get any microphonics, even without the clip on the wires, I am left thinking something is not right with his set.
post #103 of 2252
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Originally Posted by the search never ends View Post
The MD sound in a nutshell, or if you prefer, mini review. First, let me start by saying I don't consider the MD or even the Cppoer as a "true" reference set. Rather a means for enjoying the music. Many listeners, will always be chasing a certain sound. For the most part, what they seek is detail, soundstage, and the hardest part, a device that doesn`'t annoy them in the long term. Be it, the highs, mids, boomy bass, what have you.

Now that I've disclosed my take on what I believe most listeners seek. Here we go.
The Miles Davis set, Is rather unique, its rather engaging, yet not the best at any one thing. And for the majority, that's not a problem. The Sound signature is rather warm, but only a little. No part of the spectrum bothers you, if it does, throw away all your iem's.... it may not be a "superstar" but it is inoffensive. Like it or not, that's important.

I have a different perspective when it's just me and the music. At those times, I may want more transparency. More detail. The time when it's just you and the music, is finite. So, with music at the workplace, or working on other tasks, anything that takes just the smallest part of your attention. This is where many iem's will fail you. If I am stressed, a really involving, ultra transparent iem could get me going in the wrong direction. The Miles Davis set, more so than any other iem, I've heard, are enaging enough to enjoy good detail, yet forgiving enough to make every genre very enjoyable.

The mids are a strong point, the bass is deep and punchy. The treble has pretty good extension, and retains enough detail to keep you invloved. Just enough. Kepp those words "just enough" in your mind, where others fail, the MD, and to a large degree, the two MTP iem's give you just that "just enough" . The MD set is inrivaled in the realm of letting you enjoy the music without fatigue, for many, many hours, Treble? Soundstage? Just enough. The mids are very good.......not the best mids of any iem. Pretty close though. I can't honestly point ot anything that should offend a listener, it really does a fantastic job of letting you enjoy the Music. It is not the most sonically accurate iem, and that's not what most people want, most of the time. Indeed, even my jaded ears don't want that at all times.

The way the music is presented, the faults are very minor. And if I would compare to the other iem's that pick a different compromise. The MD's win, and it's not so easy to compare to all the others out there. However, pick what you will as your first criterea for the most important aspect for your personal preference. And unless the Very highly transparency of a rare few is it, the MD wins, I would prefer often the transparncy of another pair. However, even though I have a single pair I prefer, that does not offend me, I'm still using the MD's very often. It all comes back to just enough.

It can be much more than just enough with some music, it can be outstanding. Yet it is never less than just enough. Upper treble sparkle is not there, for those that are looking for it. However, the treble is very natural sounding. Even the two MTP models sound very similar, I think the MD takes the best route for the long haul and different situations. Piano, strings, voices are all just enough. Why am I taking this approach? Like it or not, what most think they want is almost always not the case. I own the orto EQ7...... which in my view trumps every iem I've ever heard.

But I can say without hesitation, that an overwhelming majority will find much more long term happiness, and long hours of enjoyment from the Miles Davis set. It is the single best "compromise" on the market. It doesn't do this or that? Doesn't matter, it is always just enough. Miss the soundstage of th ie8? The ie8 at times can be overdone, as can any other compromise. The MD set is also Close to the Gold, in most areas. I would easily pick the MD of the 3,
I am a very hard to please person. The MD's don't try like so many other iem's to stand out.

They instead grow on you day by day. If my impressions don't leave you with enough of an idea, you can pm me. I would deeply appreciate any concerns from current owners via pm. I have seen much controversy over the "MONSTER" name. I am not interseted in defending my view on them.

This little impression has been asked for repeatedly by a relative few. I offer my personal opinion for them. And, I hope it is helpful.
@ search ,Fantastic review on the mds i wish i could write reviews as elegently as you do. It seems your discription of the mds is almost exactly how i feel about the coppers ,there a very SAFE sounding iem ,giving just enough of everything ,while they dont really shine in eny paticular way.They are a very good all rounder for all day listing.

From your discription it sounds as though the mds have a sound signiture which blends the best of the golds (ie;the bass with the best of the coppers: ie: the mids) and it seems that all three share the same treble, detailed but soft without that sparkle that often gives some iems that instant enjoyable quality, that said i do injoy injoy both my golds and copper, although i prefure the golds for that big bass sound although that powerfull bass can get a bit fartiguing after a long listening session so than i move on to another iem,the good thing about the coppers is they never become fatiguning in eny way,as i said there a very safe sounding iem. I also agree with your feeling that neither the gold or the copper are quite reference quality .
post #104 of 2252
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Originally Posted by sk3383 View Post
zeluiz22...do you also experience a lot of microphonics, or is it manageable???

Maybe I can cover the cable with a layer of braided metal techflex followed by nylon multifilament techflex to reduce noise. Only problem is finding a size small enough
No. I always loop IEM's over the ears anyway. I don't notice that problem with either the Coppers or the MD's. I guess it's subjective, and the type of the thing that is susceptible to preoccupation if you listen for it.
post #105 of 2252
Thanks for response. I think I have calmed down now. Maybe dig got a bad pair. I hope with the set I recieve, that I do not experience these issues. I do wear them over the ears as well.

I am very picky with my cables, my Audio Technica CK10s, I can beat the **** out of that cable and it will never make a noise.
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