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post #121 of 2240
3/15/10 at 11:42am
Hey cn11, so the MD's continue to impress. When are you due to receive your Coppers?
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post #122 of 2240
3/15/10 at 11:46am
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Originally Posted by iponderous View Post
Hey cn11, so the MD's continue to impress. When are you due to receive your Coppers?
iponderous-
They sure do continue to impress me. They represent the most satisfying sound signature I've heard to date. They sort of remind me of all that was good about the FX500's (although I am not sure bass is quite the equal), but without the treble's piercing nature.

I think the Coppers are due in day after tomorrow. I'll certainly post up some comparisons once they have a few hours on them. But it seems general consensus of the few owners here who have both is that the MD's are slightly the superior sounding phone, despite what Monster Cable says about their not being intended to compete as part of the Pro line... which I think is a weird statement by them if they do indeed surpass the Pro models.
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post #123 of 2240
3/15/10 at 11:50am
Very good. Yeah, the FX500 did have commanding bass presence. I will continue to watch this thread with interest.
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post #124 of 2240
3/15/10 at 12:22pm
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Originally Posted by the search never ends View Post
MD verses Copper......concerning bass. it's pretty subtle, and it's not over done (for my ears) a few songs that have the gold's bass creeping into the mids, don't do it on the MD's or the copper.. The Copper, has a very narrow dip in the bass range, and it's small.

As a reference, Queens Bohemian Rhapsody. the piano is textured perfect on the Copper and MD, but the tones are slighlty off on the Gold. On Jazz with a strings/Brass combo, I find the copper bass is not quite as finely tuned as the MD. Again it's subtle, and I've been an audiophile/gearhead for 30 years, not that I am the end all in hearing, but I do know what sounds best to me..

That said, as Much as I like the MD, the orto, seems a perfect jazz iem. With The MD nipping at it's heels. The soundstage on the MD is slightly more focused than the copper. Depending on hearing (ear to ear) ymmv.... Many can't really distinguish soundstage on iem's that well.

As nice and big as the soundstage is on the ie8, I prefer the MD perspective. Finally the sounds of brass are slightly better rendered on the MD's over the copper. Again in my opinion. But in the end, it's going to be hard, person to person, if for no other reason, the better housing design of the MD's...at least for my ears,,,,,,,again ymmv.

I know that's not exactly a nailed down conclusion, but it's close, and I think thse MD set will be in my Mainstay far longer than the other two. As time goes by, I really want either The MD or orto's in my ears. I think most, that want only one set, are better off with one of the Monsters. Many of us need several at reach.

Edit: I have decided to voice my opinon on the Monster bass verses the IE8 bass....The IE8 loses in every aspect for my ears....That's only an opinion, and it's not much to go on, but I find all the Monsters are much more realistic in the bass dept.

I love the orto's but it's just not going to be as broadly accepted as an all rounder.
My 2 cents.
@ search, can u pls compare the md with the ortofons?
i own the latter and am quite impressed (more so than i am with the um3x)
why do u think the ortos will not be broadly accepted as an allrounder?
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post #125 of 2240
3/15/10 at 1:17pm
^^^
im not search, but i do have the ortos and the golds and copper, and i agree with search when he says he thinks the monsters will be more excepted as an all rounder.

I also love the ortos,they sound fantastic, in may ways they are a more pure ,accurate and precise sounding iem,but with a more unique sound sig than most iems ,so in general i feel the majoraty will prefer the more universally familiar fun orientaited sound of the monster pro range
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post #126 of 2240
3/15/10 at 3:17pm
X2 With Search and Lucozade. In addition, everyone won't be able to get a fit with the Ortos as they will with the Monsters. Ortos are the best sounding between Copper and e-Q7, but I really the Copper. Cn11 and search are making me want to get the MD (I'm mainly a jazz listener), but search seems to thinK I don't need the MD since I have the Copper and Orto. The Copper is a nice earphone, but that MD is intriguing me now.
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post #127 of 2240
3/15/10 at 5:04pm
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X2 With Search and Lucozade. In addition, everyone won't be able to get a fit with the Ortos as they will with the Monsters. Ortos are the best sounding between Copper and e-Q7, but I really the Copper. Cn11 and search are making me want to get the MD (I'm mainly a jazz listener), but search seems to thinK I don't need the MD since I have the Copper and Orto. The Copper is a nice earphone, but that MD is intriguing me now.
@ERICP

ive read several times around the forum that the ortos are hard to fit, funny that i think there one of the easy'ist iems to fit, there so slim ,no bigger than a standard pencil, i just slide them into my ear right up to the cable conectors, and there so very comfortable,i soon forget im even wearing iems

And yes the coppers are a nice earphone, i did have some issues with them for the first 3 days i had them , the treble was very recessed and boadering on being boring, but im happy to say after another day and night of burn in and a change of tips to the large senn double flange the treble has really come to life today.im begining to injoy there sound quite a bit now.

So what earphone has your affections at the moment, still the coppers or ortofon,or something else?
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post #128 of 2240
3/15/10 at 6:25pm
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Originally Posted by ericp10 View Post
X2 With Search and Lucozade. In addition, everyone won't be able to get a fit with the Ortos as they will with the Monsters. Ortos are the best sounding between Copper and e-Q7, but I really the Copper. Cn11 and search are making me want to get the MD (I'm mainly a jazz listener), but search seems to thinK I don't need the MD since I have the Copper and Orto. The Copper is a nice earphone, but that MD is intriguing me now.
Well now....Had you not decided to play with all those inexpensive iem's and
other new toy's maybe you'd have the MD's.

I owe you pal........more justice will be dispensed......lol
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post #129 of 2240
3/15/10 at 7:28pm
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@ERICP

ive read several times around the forum that the ortos are hard to fit, funny that i think there one of the easy'ist iems to fit, there so slim ,no bigger than a standard pencil, i just slide them into my ear right up to the cable conectors, and there so very comfortable,i soon forget im even wearing iems

And yes the coppers are a nice earphone, i did have some issues with them for the first 3 days i had them , the treble was very recessed and boadering on being boring, but im happy to say after another day and night of burn in and a change of tips to the large senn double flange the treble has really come to life today.im begining to injoy there sound quite a bit now.

So what earphone has your affections at the moment, still the coppers or ortofon,or something else?
Luco, search, eric (and others), are the senn double flanges better than the PFE silicons on the MTPCs?
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post #130 of 2240
3/15/10 at 8:01pm
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Originally Posted by Kunlun View Post
Luco, search, eric (and others), are the senn double flanges better than the PFE silicons on the MTPCs?
I will not be able to answer that till i get the pfe tips and try them out,
i ordered them today
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post #131 of 2240
3/15/10 at 8:07pm
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Originally Posted by lucozade View Post
@ERICP

ive read several times around the forum that the ortos are hard to fit, funny that i think there one of the easy'ist iems to fit, there so slim ,no bigger than a standard pencil, i just slide them into my ear right up to the cable conectors, and there so very comfortable,i soon forget im even wearing iems

And yes the coppers are a nice earphone, i did have some issues with them for the first 3 days i had them , the treble was very recessed and boadering on being boring, but im happy to say after another day and night of burn in and a change of tips to the large senn double flange the treble has really come to life today.im begining to injoy there sound quite a bit now.

So what earphone has your affections at the moment, still the coppers or ortofon,or something else?
lucozade, I switch between the ortos and copper. I listen to these budget Japanese and Chinese IEMs I got in every now and again (Xears and Playaz). They sound good for the price range, but for serious listening, it's the Ortos (especially if I'm in a heavy jazz mood) and Coppers for everything else. Now on any given day, I switch tips on the Copper. If I want a wider soundstage and lots of highs (the bass and mids will be there), I use the Radio Shack Auvio tips. If I want a more balanced sound (although I think they recess the highs a bit, but I'm not really a highs person so it's okay), i use the pfe tips. If I want the bass and mids really enhanced, I use these Xears foam tips..... So that's where I'm at buddy. And dreaming about the MDs...ol
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post #132 of 2240
3/15/10 at 8:08pm
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Originally Posted by the search never ends View Post
Well now....Had you not decided to play with all those inexpensive iem's and
other new toy's maybe you'd have the MD's.

I owe you pal........more justice will be dispensed......lol

LOL @ search, I deserved that buddy.. You know they say a hard head makes for a soft.... But it ain't over.... lol
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post #133 of 2240
3/15/10 at 8:15pm
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Originally Posted by Kunlun View Post
Luco, search, eric (and others), are the senn double flanges better than the PFE silicons on the MTPCs?
Hello Kunlun...mmmm? Better? mmmm? I wouldn't say better, but it presents the sound differently. I will say that the pfe, again, balance the sound of all instruments the best, but seems to damper the treble to me. Now I know notice this although I'm not particularly a treble type of guy. The double flanges opens the sound a bit, let's the treble breathe a lot more, but it may take a little from the mids..I'm not sure.. I have to listen some more with those. I do know it opens the highs and overall soundstage more. The only tips that gives a wider soundstage with incredible highs details are the Radio Shack tips. But then, I feel the Radio Shack tips damper the bass a bit. So each tip I've tried gives something more, but then takes something away slightly from somewhere else. I'll give you more details on the double flanges later.
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post #134 of 2240
3/15/10 at 8:18pm
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I find the Senn double flanges also detract from the bass a bit in comparison to the Sony Hybrids for me. The Hybrids are still my tip of choice for the MD's, but I'm going to head out and do a couple errands in a little and there just happens to be a Radio Shack in my neighborhood, so guess what I'm going to pick up while I'm out?
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post #135 of 2240
3/15/10 at 8:20pm
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Originally Posted by cn11 View Post
I find the Senn double flanges also detract from the bass a bit in comparison to the Sony Hybrids for me. The Hybrids are still my tip of choice for the MD's, but I'm going to head out and do a couple errands in a little and there just happens to be a Radio Shack in my neighborhood, so guess what I'm going to pick up while I'm out?
You'll be out of $5 @ Chris. Won't do you any harm to try them...
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