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post #106 of 2252
start tapping the cable before it goes over the ear..makes plenty of noise

just wait till you get them and see if there are any
post #107 of 2252
So are the MDs better than the Coppers?
post #108 of 2252
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I know I like the MD's a fair bit better than my IE8's. They're that good. They don't have quite the width of soundstage, but the MD's stage is more spherical, 3D, and enveloping, despite not stretching out as wide. The IE8's is more distant though, and constrained to an axis. The MD's treble is more clear and resolving without being harsh in the least. And the bass goes about as low, but it's more visceral and textured with no muddying of the rest of the range. To me FOTM sort of implies that a phone doesn't 'deserve' its praise, and so far the MD's do. Hope they last a while as an enjoyed IEM. I know they will for me.

I'll have the Coppers to compare directly later this week, I look forward to hearing for myself which prevails.
post #109 of 2252
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So are the MDs better than the Coppers?
I've heard neither, but have been following their threads closely. It might be a FOTM(albeit quite the expensive one) thing, but thus far I've seen no one who's heard both either of the MTPs and the MDs that prefers the MTPs. The MDs are getting quite the love. Ironic too, as the MTPs are intended to be higher end.

P.S. I would kill for that blue cable D: . I like blue, alot XD.
post #110 of 2252
Agreed, once I got the MDs there was no question I didn't need the IE8s anymore. I also don't think the MTPs were intended to be higher end, just with a different purpose in mind. The MDs are more expensive, after all.
post #111 of 2252
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Yeah, even though I've read a posted statement from Monster CS which says they aren't intended to better the Coppers, it's interesting to read the comments of the several owners who have both which all say they hear the MD's as smoother, yet more dynamic too.
post #112 of 2252

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Agreed, once I got the MDs there was no question I didn't need the IE8s anymore. I also don't think the MTPs were intended to be higher end, just with a different purpose in mind. The MDs are more expensive, after all.
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This is true. The Gold's (which I returned to Amazon) were closest to the IE8's, but with more pronounced mids and highs.

I am now A/B'ing the MD's vs Coppers. I love both, and both have different strengths. What I have noticed is that, for me, the lows on the Miles Davis phones gets a bit too much for rock/electric. It really is true that they are tuned for jazz and sound superb with a stand-up bass.

However, I am not a bass-head. The lows on these phones for many might be perfect for electric bass. For me, I haven't heard better electric bass in a pair of IEM's than with the Coppers.
post #113 of 2252
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Originally Posted by zeluiz22 View Post
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This is true. The Gold's (which I returned to Amazon) were closest to the IE8's, but with more pronounced mids and highs.

I am now A/B'ing the MD's vs Coppers. I love both, and both have different strengths. What I have noticed is that, for me, the lows on the Miles Davis phones gets a bit too much for rock/electric. It really is true that they are tuned for jazz and sound superb with a stand-up bass.

However, I am not a bass-head. The lows on these phones for many might be perfect for electric bass. For me, I haven't heard better electric bass in a pair of IEM's than with the Coppers.
Ooh. Interesting. I'm not a basshead either and the Coppers have more than enough for me. If the MDs have more, it would be too much. But hey, Chris - 'too much' for me is often just the right amount for you. I have the Coppers in right now (can't take them out!), and I swear I can't think of anything I'd improve except for the soundstage. But you know this doesn't mean I don't want to demo your MD's some day
post #114 of 2252
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Ooh. Interesting. I'm not a basshead either and the Coppers have more than enough for me. If the MDs have more, it would be too much. But hey, Chris - 'too much' for me is often just the right amount for you. I have the Coppers in right now (can't take them out!), and I swear I can't think of anything I'd improve except for the soundstage. But you know this doesn't mean I don't want to demo your MD's some day
If you don't listen to acoustic bass, stick with the Coppers. That's my advice. i'm conflicted because I listen to rock and jazz, but am a one-phone-at-a-time guy. I don't like owning two IEMs simultaneously. Penny pincher I guess.
post #115 of 2252
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Hey Julie! You never know, you may just be able to, if the Coppers can tide me over in the meantime. It's interesting about the bass comparisons here, because I like the MD's bass just the way it is. I'm glad it's not less. Maybe I'll find the Copper bass a little light for my liking?

We'll see soon.........
post #116 of 2252
As an ex-bass play and speaker addict, I still don't under stand the difference in how the MD would be different... I guess I'm still trying to find a direct comparison between the MD and the Copper. Is there a link to one?
post #117 of 2252
MD verses Copper......concerning bass. it's pretty subtle, and it's not over done (for my ears) a few songs that have the gold's bass creeping into the mids, don't do it on the MD's or the copper.. The Copper, has a very narrow dip in the bass range, and it's small.

As a reference, Queens Bohemian Rhapsody. the piano is textured perfect on the Copper and MD, but the tones are slighlty off on the Gold. On Jazz with a strings/Brass combo, I find the copper bass is not quite as finely tuned as the MD. Again it's subtle, and I've been an audiophile/gearhead for 30 years, not that I am the end all in hearing, but I do know what sounds best to me..

That said, as Much as I like the MD, the orto, seems a perfect jazz iem. With The MD nipping at it's heels. The soundstage on the MD is slightly more focused than the copper. Depending on hearing (ear to ear) ymmv.... Many can't really distinguish soundstage on iem's that well.

As nice and big as the soundstage is on the ie8, I prefer the MD perspective. Finally the sounds of brass are slightly better rendered on the MD's over the copper. Again in my opinion. But in the end, it's going to be hard, person to person, if for no other reason, the better housing design of the MD's...at least for my ears,,,,,,,again ymmv.

I know that's not exactly a nailed down conclusion, but it's close, and I think thse MD set will be in my Mainstay far longer than the other two. As time goes by, I really want either The MD or orto's in my ears. I think most, that want only one set, are better off with one of the Monsters. Many of us need several at reach.

Edit: I have decided to voice my opinon on the Monster bass verses the IE8 bass....The IE8 loses in every aspect for my ears....That's only an opinion, and it's not much to go on, but I find all the Monsters are much more realistic in the bass dept.

I love the orto's but it's just not going to be as broadly accepted as an all rounder.
My 2 cents.
post #118 of 2252
Great review / impressions of the MD.

It confirms what I thought - the Monster MD wins. I have the Originals and if I were to find a deal... still a bit pricey however. What I don't like is all the bling - I don't want them ripped out of my ears by some evil doer, and would want them even more if they had a more spartan, subdued look. That would bring the price down too I would imagine.

MD sound - No bling = $149.00?

Maybe Monster would take a look at that after the limited MD production run.
post #119 of 2252
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If they did that, I'd pick up a pair at that price and sell off the blingy set..
post #120 of 2252
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Great impressions of the range. As you know, it was your single comment in your brief earlier comparison of the Coppers and MD's which sealed the deal for which I purchased.

...I'm not disappointed at all.

BTW, I totally agree with you about the bass of the IE8 in comparison to the MD's. The Miles do bass so much more cleanly, without the muddying mid bass. I can't quite decide which ultimately hits the lowest, but the MD's are at least 95% the deep extension, but with so much more bass texture and layering.
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