I've finally given my beloved MX 500's to my wife and now i'm after a replacement. I don't want to spend to much so i've been looking at the MX 660 or AKG K317. The AKG is double what the MX 660 so does anyone know if its worth double the price? Or if anyone could recommend me any other bud in that price range it would be much appreciated.
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Replacement Buds for Mx 500's
post #2 of 16
3/9/10 at 6:39pm
I've had all 3 of the MX560/660/760, and they are great earbuds, with slight variations in sound. The 560 is fairly mid-centric with soft bass and treble extension. The 660 is stronger in both bass and treble, but has a very wide soundstage that might be harder to get used to. The 760 is very good all around, even though the treble extension is still softer, which is typical of most Senn phones. And the 760 cable is a little weird.
I have not heard any AKG earbuds.
I have not heard any AKG earbuds.
post #3 of 16
3/9/10 at 6:54pm
Kjk1281, Joker, and myself prefer the newer versions phones over the MX760. The two sampled were the MX471 and MX580 and we pretty much agree on both better fit and sound. The MX880 has some of the best fit for an earbud and better sound still, though not by much. I feel it is overpriced and a bit of an ugly duckling.
The K317 is a fine choice but just to make sure you know it is a lanyard(necklace style) phone and not normal wearing style.
The K317 is a fine choice but just to make sure you know it is a lanyard(necklace style) phone and not normal wearing style.
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Thanks guys. I didn't know there was a new range out! Just had a look on Amazon and the MX580's are there for £27. This range isn't even on the Sennheiser website yet?! Do you know why? Just noticed the MX980 on Amazon for £135!! That must be some Bud!
So Jant would you recommend the MX580 over the MX760 andK317? How much better is the MX580 than the MX471? or is it just that the MX580 has a volume control that makes it more pricey?
Cheers James.
So Jant would you recommend the MX580 over the MX760 andK317? How much better is the MX580 than the MX471? or is it just that the MX580 has a volume control that makes it more pricey?
Cheers James.
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3/9/10 at 10:02pm
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I'll chime on the MX471 since that's the only one I've heard from the new range. For a $20 earbud the 471 has got it all - comfort, build quality, convenience, and sq. To me it sounds better than my old MX760, which was too artificial and contrived when it came to soundstaging. The 471 is more cohesive and smooth. Not hi-fi by any means but a very pleasant all-around sound.
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3/10/10 at 12:26am
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i wonder how good is the sound of MX980....
for earbuds , i prefer sennheiser than AKG
but for headphone, i prefer akg than sennheiser
for earbuds , i prefer sennheiser than AKG
but for headphone, i prefer akg than sennheiser
post #7 of 16
3/10/10 at 8:35am
I've had the MX-500s and the AKG-K313 and I must say that the AKG was MUCH better than the Sennheiser for my musical tastes. Deep basses (but controlled), in your face mids with detailed but warm voices and bright enough (that is, non-fatiguing, not brain-drilling) highs. My subjective opinion, of course...
The only problem I see with the K313 is that they're open so people around you will hear your music and you will hear every outside noise
Not good for commuting, otherwise I won't use other phones.
The only problem I see with the K313 is that they're open so people around you will hear your music and you will hear every outside noise
Not good for commuting, otherwise I won't use other phones.
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3/10/10 at 12:44pm
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I've got the mx760 now and am well impressed with them. They're much more to my liking than the Yuin PK3 which were too forward and compressed sounding for me. The Mx760 sound like bigger headphones , not earbuds. I'd say they're on par with the PX100 / KSC75 I've owned in the past , if not better. Nothing to complain about for 14 quid off amazon.
Their signature is Sennheiser warmth with a broad soundstage that is instantly pleasing with Jazz ( Brass is wow! ) and music with reverb . They're eminently listenable with most types of music but may not give you the necessary ear pains some people need to enjoy Rock music.
The cable requires a clip to keep it from pulling the buds out of your ear when it dangles. Other than that I think the extra length of the cord is very convenient which was a bit too short on the PK3 and made me walk like a hunchback .
It is remarkable what can be had for so little money . Even if the next generation of Senns and AKGs outperform these, you may not find them for the same low price as the mx760.
Their signature is Sennheiser warmth with a broad soundstage that is instantly pleasing with Jazz ( Brass is wow! ) and music with reverb . They're eminently listenable with most types of music but may not give you the necessary ear pains some people need to enjoy Rock music.
The cable requires a clip to keep it from pulling the buds out of your ear when it dangles. Other than that I think the extra length of the cord is very convenient which was a bit too short on the PK3 and made me walk like a hunchback .
It is remarkable what can be had for so little money . Even if the next generation of Senns and AKGs outperform these, you may not find them for the same low price as the mx760.
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Went for the MX580's. £27 from Amazon. Out the box they are pretty impressive. I've got them burning in at the moment but even if they don't improve i'll still be well satisfied. Only listened to them for 20 mins but first impressions are they blow the socks off my MX 500 and CX 300II! I'll go into a bit more detail after burn in.
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3/11/10 at 3:35pm
For those of you who have both the MX471 & MX580, does the 580 give a sizable improvement over the 471?
The 471 looks super sexy to me, I love the cable, and would probably buy it unless the 580 sounds a good bit better.
The 471 looks super sexy to me, I love the cable, and would probably buy it unless the 580 sounds a good bit better.
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3/11/10 at 3:53pm
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Whoops, weird delayed double post.
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3/11/10 at 3:59pm
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I've been waiting for my store to get the new Sennheiser line, but I'm curious if that will ever happen now!
MY MX560s aren't too terrible for the price, but leave me wanting a lot more. Considered going for Yuin, but I figure I'll wait it out a bit longer to see if I can get my hands on the MX980 at a good price.
MY MX560s aren't too terrible for the price, but leave me wanting a lot more. Considered going for Yuin, but I figure I'll wait it out a bit longer to see if I can get my hands on the MX980 at a good price.
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3/12/10 at 7:15pm
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Went for the MX580's. £27 from Amazon. Out the box they are pretty impressive. I've got them burning in at the moment but even if they don't improve i'll still be well satisfied. Only listened to them for 20 mins but first impressions are they blow the socks off my MX 500 and CX 300II! I'll go into a bit more detail after burn in.
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I'm actually quite curious about this myself. I only own the MX580 for now, but I'm getting rather close to purchasing a pair of 471s. Pretty much sold on the looks alone!
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3/13/10 at 12:35am
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u can try MX90's
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Ok they’re fully burnt in now and to be honest it’s made little or no difference. But as they sounded great out the box that’s not a problem. First of all my setup has been either my Ipod Nano connected to a Fiio E5 Amp via a Line out or an Archos 5 with a Fiio E5. The files on the Archos are either Flac or WMA VBR highest quality. The files on the Ipod are mainly WMA VBR 96-128kbps or MP3 128kbps. I’m useing my MX500’s and CX300 II’s as a reference.
Comfort – Pretty similar to the MX500’s. Quite comfy but if you position them slightly wrong they’ll begin to hurt after a short while but no real complaints.
Sound:-
Bass – Snappy, punchy, detailed. Bass, as i expected is good. The bass impact isn’t as large as the CX300’s but the extension and the quality is there in abundance. They definitely have more range in the bass department than the MX500’s and the quality is better than the CX300’s. At high volume with the Ipod the bass can become muddy and a bit uncontrolled but i would expect that with low quality compressions.
Mids – Again plenty of detail a vast improvement on the MX500’s but still suffering with a low quality source.
Highs – Great detail although can be a little shrill with dance music and a low quality source. Easily corrected with a tweak of the equaliser though.
Overall they are typically Sennheiser. Nice warm sound and not tiring at all. Plenty of detail with a slight emphasis on bass. For headphones aimed at ipod use they’re fairly neutral. One negative is that they do show up a poor quality source which i didn’t expect at all. The MX500’s are better at hiding poor quality which is surprising as they have a higher ohm rating. Through the Ipod and with low quality compression the overall sound can become congested, the separation between sounds becomes blurred and the Soundstage narrows, particularly with rock and Soul. Dance music doesn’t seem to suffer as much. With Flac files through my Archos the Soundstage is good, not massive but still impressive for a bud. Separation is also good with fine detail being picked up. Stevie Wonder ‘Part Time Lover’ sounds awesome and incredibly clear even at high volume.
Now onto value. £27 for a set of quality Headphones isn’t massive and i did believe i got value. I paid £15 for my MX500’s 4 years ago and £18 for my CX300 II 3 months ago and these are definite step up in overall quality from both. That was until i bought my wife a pair of MX 271’s for £9! There is no way my MX580’s are £18 better. She’s only had them a day but i managed a good 30 minute listen to them and although the overall quality is a slight step down (i.e- less detail, marginally less bass quality, less bass extension, smaller soundstage) they actually hide a poor quality source better and seem slightly comfier. I'll reinterate that i've only listened to them for 30 mins, maybe a longer listen will reveal their flaws to me but at the moment for £9 i'm really impressed. Maybe a good compromise would be the Mx470’s which if they can come near the 580’s detail and soundstage and match the 271’s ability to hide a poor source will be a steal at £18.
Comfort – Pretty similar to the MX500’s. Quite comfy but if you position them slightly wrong they’ll begin to hurt after a short while but no real complaints.
Sound:-
Bass – Snappy, punchy, detailed. Bass, as i expected is good. The bass impact isn’t as large as the CX300’s but the extension and the quality is there in abundance. They definitely have more range in the bass department than the MX500’s and the quality is better than the CX300’s. At high volume with the Ipod the bass can become muddy and a bit uncontrolled but i would expect that with low quality compressions.
Mids – Again plenty of detail a vast improvement on the MX500’s but still suffering with a low quality source.
Highs – Great detail although can be a little shrill with dance music and a low quality source. Easily corrected with a tweak of the equaliser though.
Overall they are typically Sennheiser. Nice warm sound and not tiring at all. Plenty of detail with a slight emphasis on bass. For headphones aimed at ipod use they’re fairly neutral. One negative is that they do show up a poor quality source which i didn’t expect at all. The MX500’s are better at hiding poor quality which is surprising as they have a higher ohm rating. Through the Ipod and with low quality compression the overall sound can become congested, the separation between sounds becomes blurred and the Soundstage narrows, particularly with rock and Soul. Dance music doesn’t seem to suffer as much. With Flac files through my Archos the Soundstage is good, not massive but still impressive for a bud. Separation is also good with fine detail being picked up. Stevie Wonder ‘Part Time Lover’ sounds awesome and incredibly clear even at high volume.
Now onto value. £27 for a set of quality Headphones isn’t massive and i did believe i got value. I paid £15 for my MX500’s 4 years ago and £18 for my CX300 II 3 months ago and these are definite step up in overall quality from both. That was until i bought my wife a pair of MX 271’s for £9! There is no way my MX580’s are £18 better. She’s only had them a day but i managed a good 30 minute listen to them and although the overall quality is a slight step down (i.e- less detail, marginally less bass quality, less bass extension, smaller soundstage) they actually hide a poor quality source better and seem slightly comfier. I'll reinterate that i've only listened to them for 30 mins, maybe a longer listen will reveal their flaws to me but at the moment for £9 i'm really impressed. Maybe a good compromise would be the Mx470’s which if they can come near the 580’s detail and soundstage and match the 271’s ability to hide a poor source will be a steal at £18.
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