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post #2566 of 6111

Hey guys, how would the Crack compare with the Little Dot Mk III in order to drive the HD 600/HD 650?

post #2567 of 6111

I can't speak for this dac because i haven't tried it yet but im going to buy the Abrahamsen DAC II, it has gotten some nice reviews here in sweden and it's ridiculous cheap.

 

post #2568 of 6111
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Originally Posted by sjeffrey View Post
 

If drizek plans to upgrade to HD800 then I would suggest getting the next step up for a DAC to keep the price ratio closer.  Maybe a Schiit Bifrost?

Or wait to see how much you'll like to build the Crack and get the Bottlehead DAC once they release it? ;)

I have the crack and a Nuforce HDP as a DAC I also plan on getting the 800s in the future and the only reason I have not bought a new DSD approved DAC yet is because I'm sure the bottlehead DAC will be a killer deal!  Using HD 600s for your perspective

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Originally Posted by NoGood View Post
 

Hey guys, how would the Crack compare with the Little Dot Mk III in order to drive the HD 600/HD 650?

 

MILES ahead. I found the Little Dot to be lacking in warmth and it sounded a little bland when I owned it. The Crack is one of the best amps I've heard with the HD600/650.

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Check my profile for an (incomplete) list of amps I have owned. The Crack is the best amp I have found for the HD800s, HD650s and HD600s bar none, even at (literally!) 10x the price. Yes, it is that good.
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Originally Posted by amcananey View Post

Check my profile for an (incomplete) list of amps I have owned. The Crack is the best amp I have found for the HD800s, HD650s and HD600s bar none, even at (literally!) 10x the price. Yes, it is that good.
May I know what is the amp the Crack beats at 10 times it's price?
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Originally Posted by froger View Post


May I know what is the amp the Crack beats at 10 times it's price?

 

+1 - not because I doubt it, but because I love knowing how good this beast of an amp is!!

 

I just finished installing the Speedball in my pre-existing Crack. I wish I could A/B it with the non-Speedball version because the sound was so good before (with GEC 6AS7G straight brown base + RCA Cleartop 12AU7) that I can't tell how much better it is :blink:.

 

I know it sounds ridiculously good now through the Beyer T1s, but I have no real direct comparison to be amazed by. It does seem more articulate and transparent now, but it's hard to now how much of that is in my head due to my expectations...

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Woo Audio WA22 ($2,000) with Tung-Sol 7236 upgrade tubes ($160) + Sylvania 6SN7GT upgrade tubes ($330) + Sophia Princess 274B upgrade ($160).

But for what it's worth, with the HD800s I also preferred the Crack over the following:

- ECP Audio DSHA-1
- HiFiMAN EF-6
- Schiit Mjolnir
- Violectric V181
- Fully top-of-the-line AMB Beta 22 that I sold for over $2k
- Little Dot Mk VI+ with about $600 of upgrade tubes
- etc., etc.

To be clear, I would take a stock Crack over any of the above.
post #2574 of 6111
Also: these aren't amps that I listened to for five minutes at a meet or that my friend has. These are amps I owned (or still own) and that I used extensively.
post #2575 of 6111
The magic of the Crack must be in its simplicity I think. It is such an easy amp to enjoy - just add >250ohm headphones!

It's a bonus to be able to role tubes to adjust the sound.
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So... the Ken Rad 6C8G (w/ round plates) arrived.. rolled it into the Crack.. then this happened:

 

G44


Edited by FlySweep - 9/6/13 at 3:17pm
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Originally Posted by FlySweep View Post
 

So... the Ken Rad 6F8G (w/ round plates) arrived.. rolled it into the Crack.. then this happened:

 

G44

 

Haha. I take it that's a good reaction?

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Originally Posted by Loquah View Post
 

 

Haha. I take it that's a good reaction?

 

I was wondering the same thing.  Is that good or bad???? Or both? :evil:

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Originally Posted by Zashoomin View Post
 

I was wondering the same thing.  Is that good or bad???? Or both? :evil:

Originally Posted by Loquah View Post
 

Haha. I take it that's a good reaction?

 

INDEED!

 

A few tube enthusiasts have opined to me that they found the Ken Rad 6C8G (RPs) to sound fairly similar to the (famed) Ken Rad 6SN7 (RPs).  Now, I've haven't had a chance to actually hear the highly regarded 6SN7 version.. but if the sound of the 6F8G variant is any indication, the 6SN7 version must certainly be something special.  The 6F8G's bass is definitely punchy and impactful.. w/ the focus being on the sub bass rather than the midbass.  The treble has a smooth, balanced (in reference to the midrange) presence and good depth  Treble is crisp & complimentary to the addictive bass and deep, engaging midrange.  It's certainly in the top two or three favorite tubes I've rolled into the Crack.


Edited by FlySweep - 9/6/13 at 3:18pm
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i took a chance on a crack + speedball that was modified by the user with caps, bypass, etc on ebay as i've wanted to try one for awhile and it's quite difficult to find a prebuilt one. i hope it works out.

could someone perhaps give me a beginner's breakdown on tube rolling? this is my first tube amp and i want to try out different tubes here and there, is it as simple as finding out the compatible tubes and purchasing it and then plugging it in? that's it?

does there need to be any synergy between the 2 tubes at all?

 

also what's a good dac to go with it to bring out the "tubey" sound in the $200-250 USED range, i'm currently using an odac but would that be too neutral/analytical? i was thinking maybe a music streamer ii+ or a dacport lx, they're both highly recommended on headphonia.

 

i'm using an hd600 currently but i plan to try to get a hd650 used in the near future.


Edited by Nowhere - 9/6/13 at 4:40am
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