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post #1291 of 1888
10/22/12 at 5:53pm
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Originally Posted by ben_r_ View Post


If they get 25+ committed Ill probably jump on this as I really dont feel the Crack is worth more than $200.

 

Unfortunately the deal has been running a few days and only has 1 person committed. I don't think a lot of people on head-fi have jumped on it though. 

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post #1292 of 1888
10/22/12 at 6:07pm

The sad thing is that I would have jumped on this but I am just about to grab the S.E.X kit from BottleHead.

 

Thanks for the heads though

 

 

Wormwood 

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post #1293 of 1888
10/22/12 at 7:15pm
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Originally Posted by ben_r_ View Post

If they get 25+ committed Ill probably jump on this as I really dont feel the Crack is worth more than $200.

 

What are you basing that on, exactly? The Crack is a phenomenal amp for the price.

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post #1294 of 1888
10/22/12 at 10:08pm
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Originally Posted by Beefy View Post

 

What are you basing that on, exactly? The Crack is a phenomenal amp for the price.


The fact that I have a degree in electrical engineering, have poured over the schematic for it, and the cost of the parts involved. Either way its my opinion, nothing more.

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post #1295 of 1888
10/22/12 at 10:27pm
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Originally Posted by ben_r_ View Post


The fact that I have a degree in electrical engineering, have poured over the schematic for it, and the cost of the parts involved. Either way its my opinion, nothing more.

 

This is true of 99% of all consumer electronics equipment though. It would be difficult to find an OTL tube amplifier as good as it, built by any manufacturer for anything close to this price. And for 8 hours worth of work - with a well documented, all inclusive kit, this still represents a lot of value to those of us who are not up to the task of (or have enough time to) drafting our own schematics, sourcing our own parts, and truly scratch building. 

 

*shrug*

 

Everyone's definition of value is different. For many of us, this represents a good balance between high end sound, cost, and time/effort. Your own equation will be different based on your own variables of time, expertise, and budget. 

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post #1296 of 1888
10/23/12 at 3:46am
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Originally Posted by ben_r_ View Post

The fact that I have a degree in electrical engineering, have poured over the schematic for it, and the cost of the parts involved. Either way its my opinion, nothing more.

 

Never mind the fact that extremely similar commercial offerings go for substantially more money, and use similarly inexpensive parts......

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post #1297 of 1888
10/23/12 at 6:54am
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Originally Posted by ben_r_ View Post


The fact that I have a degree in electrical engineering, have poured over the schematic for it, and the cost of the parts involved. Either way its my opinion, nothing more.

 

That is a very limited and simple view.

 

There is the enclosure and the cost of cutting it... the cost of the training material that ships with it.. the cost of packaging and sourcing of tubes (and matching the tubes)

 

There's a LOT more to the final price then just the price of the electronics

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post #1298 of 1888
10/23/12 at 4:01pm

The Crack is indeed a phenomenal amp for the price.   It was the 3rd headphone amp I built and I have not built another since.   The first two amps are in the closet collecting dust....bigsmile_face.gif

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post #1299 of 1888
10/24/12 at 3:46pm
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Originally Posted by liamstrain View Post

 

This is true of 99% of all consumer electronics equipment though. It would be difficult to find an OTL tube amplifier as good as it, built by any manufacturer for anything close to this price. And for 8 hours worth of work - with a well documented, all inclusive kit, this still represents a lot of value to those of us who are not up to the task of (or have enough time to) drafting our own schematics, sourcing our own parts, and truly scratch building. 

 

*shrug*

 

Everyone's definition of value is different. For many of us, this represents a good balance between high end sound, cost, and time/effort. Your own equation will be different based on your own variables of time, expertise, and budget. 


Very true and well put. That is why I suffixed the statement with "just my opinion".

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post #1300 of 1888
10/29/12 at 7:38am

That's why I don't ask our engineers to establish margins. Nor do I ask our accountants to design our gear. wink.gif

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post #1301 of 1888
10/29/12 at 1:34pm

I'd like to upgrade the volume pot on my Crack.  Any recommendations??  Where to buy also would be helpful.

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post #1302 of 1888
10/29/12 at 10:35pm

I hear blue alps is a good one. I love my crack, powers my hd650's beautifully.

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post #1303 of 1888
10/31/12 at 1:36pm

tkd 2511 pots, available at parts connexion, are quite nice and a drop in substitute for stock.  I've been very pleased with mine.  

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post #1304 of 1888
11/7/12 at 11:14am
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That's why I don't ask our engineers to establish margins. Nor do I ask our accountants to design our gear. wink.gif

Well put Doc :)

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post #1305 of 1888
11/8/12 at 10:56pm

I miss my Crack so much :( I'm starting to regret my venture into portable audio when I see pictures of my old baby :P

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