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post #31 of 47
Have you owned a Zana, WA6SE, and Raptor? Have you owned any of the models mentioned in this thread?
post #32 of 47
Owned no, but used them on multiple occasions yes. To know the answer to your question all you had to do was check my profile which is up to date. Now that I have answered your silly non-relevant question shut up and crawl back under the rock you came out of. Unless you have somthing meaningful to add that is. Darn, we seem to be surrounded by nincompoops.
post #33 of 47

As I Recall...

As I recall from research of many posts, which date back several years:

WA6SE > Raptor (though the Raptor is highly regarded by most)
WA6SE = ZD (though ZD may be a hair better, not enough to justify the cost).

And... these may have been referring to the WA6SE(M).

Which is why I bought the WA6SE(M)

As far the expressions of opinion by "novices" - it would be more enlightening if they personalized their comments, and identified their experience - for example... "in my limited experience, I would guess amp A might be more to my taste, than amp B." This... in contrast to sweeping generalizations in absolute terms - based on limited experience and knowledge. Such sweeping generalizations, unfortunately, often can mislead other "novices," and are of no value, whatsoever (i.e. "aren't worth the screen they're printed on")... oh yes... "in my experience and in my humble opinion."
post #34 of 47
I started with a Raptor and many complement tubes and moved on to WA6 for a short while before ended with a WA6SE(M) during the past 2 years. I would recommend WA6SE for jazz and classical.
post #35 of 47
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Originally Posted by tosehee View Post
6SE improves upon 6, and the pricing is justifiably so. If you are comparing raptor to 6SE, you might have a different thoughts.

With that said though, if you own HD800 and/or plan to, Ratpor + HD800 is match made in heaven. Sonnett is supposedly a very good match too.
That's nice to hear, since I have HD800s and have a Raptor on order (along with a QB-9 - supposedly I'm near the front of the line for the 192k model).
post #36 of 47
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Originally Posted by mrarroyo View Post
Owned no, but used them on multiple occasions yes. To know the answer to your question all you had to do was check my profile which is up to date. Now that I have answered your silly non-relevant question shut up and crawl back under the rock you came out of. Unless you have somthing meaningful to add that is. Darn, we seem to be surrounded by nincompoops.
Sorry to break it to you but I owned the WA6SE and the Raptor at the same time. The Raptor was troublesome and so was Ray. The Woo was a pleasure. Do you treat everyone this way? Seems to me your in the wrong thread since you never owned any of the amps in question.

Have a nice day Sir
post #37 of 47
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Originally Posted by CrackBerry9000 View Post
Sorry to break it to you but I owned the WA6SE and the Raptor at the same time. The Raptor was troublesome and so was Ray. The Woo was a pleasure. Do you treat everyone this way? Seems to me your in the wrong thread since you never owned any of the amps in question.

Have a nice day Sir
No I only treat DA's in such a manner. As far as Ray he has been gentleman in all my transactions with him (owned at least 4 of his amps), my dealings with the Woo's has been limited to a few PM/Email's over the years and I would categorize them as neutral. Nonetheless I have listened to their amps on various occasions and with plenty of different headphones. BTW, welcome to my ignore list!
post #38 of 47
Don't do me any favors
post #39 of 47
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Originally Posted by Gradofan2 View Post
As far the expressions of opinion by "novices" - it would be more enlightening if they personalized their comments, and identified their experience - for example... "in my limited experience, I would guess amp A might be more to my taste, than amp B." This... in contrast to sweeping generalizations in absolute terms - based on limited experience and knowledge. Such sweeping generalizations, unfortunately, often can mislead other "novices," and are of no value, whatsoever (i.e. "aren't worth the screen they're printed on")... oh yes... "in my experience and in my humble opinion."
Right on. Context is really important - we list our gear, not to show off but to give other people an idea of our experiences and preferences. Sweeping generalizations are a huge problem, especially if someone picks up, distorts and spreads them. Sure, at times head-fi is a lot like an oral tradition, or myth in the academic sense (as supposed to myth as falsehood), but evidence sorts out the good from the bad.
post #40 of 47

I currently have a pair of HD800 with Little Dot mk4 SE (i know, not the greatest amp with HD800), and I often find the treble being too hot.

I've read that both the Raptor and WA6SE are great for HD800, but I'd like to know which one will tame the HD800's treble?

I listen to classical, jazz, vocals, and I'm looking for somewhat warm/forward mids.

 

Which one would suit me better? THanks!

post #41 of 47


 

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Originally Posted by CrackBerry9000 View Post

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The Raptor was troublesome and so was Ray.

I find that extremely surprising.  I have been dealing with Ray for over three years, and have found him an absolute delight to work with.

 

More to the point of the thread, I have not heard any Woo products, but I have owned the following: (1) Headroom Ultra Micro DAC and Amp; (2) Benchmark DAC-1 USB; and (3) my current setup, Ayre QB-9 and Raptor.  The current setup is head and shoulders better than the other two.  My only quibble with the Raptor is that with the wrong tubes, it can be kinda noisy.  I am currently running a RCA clear-top 12AU7 and Los Gatos (rebranded Tung-Sol?) 5687s, and it is dead quiet, but I have gotten noticeable amounts of noise with some highly coveted 12AU7s, including Mullards and black glass Tung-Sols.  But if you were fanatical about noise, you would be buying a solid state amp, wouldn't you?
 

post #42 of 47
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Originally Posted by kwang411 View Post

I currently have a pair of HD800 with Little Dot mk4 SE (i know, not the greatest amp with HD800), and I often find the treble being too hot.

I've read that both the Raptor and WA6SE are great for HD800, but I'd like to know which one will tame the HD800's treble?

I listen to classical, jazz, vocals, and I'm looking for somewhat warm/forward mids.

 

Which one would suit me better? THanks!

Which one would suit you better is a personal and subjective question that only you can answer, but I will tell you that I have no issues with overheated treble with the Raptor/HD800 combo.  Right now I am listening to Alina Ibragimova playing the Bach Partita No. 1 for solo violin, and there is no harshness at all, even in the highest registers.
 

post #43 of 47

Unfortunately in Vancouver there's nowhere to try out these amps.. so I can only rely on people's impressions.
I find classical music fine, but with some rock songs, the cymbals are too bright, and with vocal tracks, there's pronounced sibilance. I guess i'm just looking for an overall warmer sound.

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Originally Posted by burnspbesq View Post



Which one would suit you better is a personal and subjective question that only you can answer, but I will tell you that I have no issues with overheated treble with the Raptor/HD800 combo.  Right now I am listening to Alina Ibragimova playing the Bach Partita No. 1 for solo violin, and there is no harshness at all, even in the highest registers.
 

post #44 of 47
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Originally Posted by mrarroyo View Post

Owned no, but used them on multiple occasions yes. To know the answer to your question all you had to do was check my profile which is up to date. Now that I have answered your silly non-relevant question shut up and crawl back under the rock you came out of. Unless you have somthing meaningful to add that is. Darn, we seem to be surrounded by nincompoops.




 

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Originally Posted by CrackBerry9000 View Post

Don't do me any favors

 

Who would want to do you any favors?
 

post #45 of 47

I had a Raptor and now with a WA6SE maxxed. Personally I love WA6SE more than the Raptor in all departments. It is more economical for tube rolling on WA6SE. I am saving for a WA22 and planning to part with my great WA6SE if I can get local owner.

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