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post #376 of 785
I currently have the Triple.Fi 10s re-cabled with the Lune audio cable from Null Audio. Earlier in this thread I supported them being top tier. I love the sound quality; however, I have ordered the Westone UM3X Friday so sometime this week they will arrive and I will be able to do direct A/B comparisons between them.

This will at least give my support for the Triples some actual weight since I have not heard any other Top Tier IEM. Reviews coming soon
post #377 of 785
I owned ie8 for almost a month... it doesnt deserve to be top-tier... it has many flaws based on MY experince; hyper Mid-bass, Fit, overdone soundstage.. Still great phones, but with that pricetag + lots of flaws including its sonic character, its a no no for me...
post #378 of 785
So I have the UM3Xs and am in love with them. I get at least 3 hours a day with them constantly; comfort is top notch along with sound quality.

All of the detail is there similar to the Triples, but it isn't as upfront and in your face; more relaxing and makes classical,acoustic and new age/vocal tracks sound amazing. They are somewhat neutral with a slight emphasis in the mids.

And to point out the obvious, the imaging/separation that you get with the UM3Xs is superb. Puts the Triples' separation to shame IMO. It's not a night and day difference, but I am constantly closing my eyes while listening and being able to look directly at the instrument being played; amazing for classical pieces.
post #379 of 785
^ Glad you're enjoying the UM3X, I'm not really surprised by your comments.

In my experience, the TF10 and IE8 are way overrated/colored. I preferred the $79 RE0 over those two.

Haven't heard much of the other top tiers but the UM3X is absolutely amazing.
post #380 of 785
The UM3X is amazing. I find that I have gotten TONS (and I mean tons) of music just to listen to use with these phones. I generally use other, more energetic music with the Triples because I like the bass and treble energy, but natural sounding music goes solely to the UM3Xs because of the imaging and detail.

I love them.
post #381 of 785
I think that after getting used to the UM3X, the soundstage(my one gripe) has become more than tolerable. Was just listening to karma police and there is definitely enough space in the music. TF10 is also a good phone, I had the fortune to try the IE8 a couple weeks ago as well as owning the Westone 3 and I honestly can't say the TF10 is that much worse sounding than those 2 and those 2 has their supporters. TF10's fit and dissapearing mids are just annoying.
post #382 of 785
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Originally Posted by playingwithfire View Post
TF10's fit and dissapearing mids are just annoying.
You could solve both problems by re-molding them into customs with an extra mid-driver, turning them into TF-11s
post #383 of 785
It seems the FX700s could very well move onto the list, by the looks of a new review. On that note, here's the thread. I'm also writing up some far more detailed impressions of the PS200s at the moment, which I will post in a separate thread. In my opinion, you can never have too many (credible) reviews. They're a great help towards making an educated and satisfying purchase.
post #384 of 785
Thread Starter 
Chart updated and FX700 moved into top-tier land. I guess I need to get my hands on the FX700 to really know where they rank.
post #385 of 785
Go average joe, get them all!
post #386 of 785
Thread Starter 
I need to move near 32 Ohm, or some place that carries many of these high end IEMs so I can just visit nightly!
post #387 of 785
don't we all now..or have some kind of high end store in big cities like nyc however i bet they would get sick of seeing me every day auditioning and not buying..or love it cuz i would buy everything lol
post #388 of 785
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Originally Posted by koven View Post
^ Glad you're enjoying the UM3X, I'm not really surprised by your comments.

In my experience, the TF10 and IE8 are way overrated/colored. I preferred the $79 RE0 over those two.

Haven't heard much of the other top tiers but the UM3X is absolutely amazing.
agreed. TF10s are not enjoyable at all for me. RE0s are much better IMHO.

though i have been getting an itch for an upgrade. thinking about the UM3x, Westone 2, or CK10...
post #389 of 785
Shure SE530 PTH

Westone 3 LE

earsonics SM3

or
custom headset..? (what brand should i buy for the best result) ..
thanks

please choose what headset should I buy among those headset..
post #390 of 785
@ average_joe I just looked through your chart again in post #1 and you write that GR8 is smoother than Shure SE530. That is not true. It may be more coherent, but definitely not smoother. In fact, I have yet to hear a headphone that has a more liquid presentation than SE530.

Please put me on the list of supporters for the top-tier status of SE530, e-Q7, UM3X, Westone 3, Triple.fi and IE8. I think they are all top-tier, although I still think Shure SE530 has the best sound quality for a universal. It has the best mids, the best soundstage and dynamics, and the most realistic overall presentation of any IEM I've heard to date. e-Q7 and UM3X are in second place with Westone 3, Triple.fi and IE8 (in no particular order) further behind IMO.

Also, I would like you to add RE0 to your list of IEMs that are close to being top tier. In fact, out of my Audigy 2 ZS with kxProject drivers and Foobar 2000, I almost feel like RE0 sounds better than the e-Q7. RE0 requires a very good source and amp to reveal its full potential and is also sensitive to fit and tip choice. For instance, with the stock large bi-flange tips, RE0 becomes very bassy with an aggressive upper treble emphasis - great for rock music as well as for use with underpowered neutral sources. But put on the stock single flange tips and you've got a completely different animal - the powerful, tight bass is gone and is replaced by a slightly bloated low end that is missing the lowest registers, the mids suddenly come forward and almost sound in your face, while the upper mids/low treble moves to the background. I think that the stock single flanges ruin the sound of the RE0, especially in the bass region. I currently use mine with UE single flanges and they fit much better in my ears than the stock single flange tips and make the RE0 sound much tighter in the bass and with a more laid back midrange.

RE0 has the best treble and arguably the best tonal balance of any IEM I've heard to date. But that was not my experience with them out of the box, My pair had some very noticeable peaks in the treble region around 12 kHz and 14 kHz. It also had a weak, somewhat sloppy bass, even with the stock dual flanges and UE tips. After some simple modding and lots of burin in however, I was able to eliminate these issues. To improve bass response, I took out the yellow foam inside the nozzle and put it back in such a way so that there is some space left between the foam and the driver. This allows the driver to pump more air and noticeably tightens the bass. I also squeezed the foam into the nozzle a little harder which helped to smooth out the treble (burn in took care of any peaks still present after the mod). Now my RE0 sounds very neutral with accurate, tight bass.
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