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post #31 of 138

crystal piccolino anyone?

post #32 of 138

It would seem you could just order a UE 10vi cable, chop the ends off and replace them with some of these?

 

-john

post #33 of 138

@ccfoodog

 

it looks doable for DIY'ers, but I'm neither one of those nor a fan of the build quality of the stock UE 10vi cable :(

post #34 of 138

From my broken TripleFi 10vi cable, I know the wire setup seems a little different - there is an additional red wire coiled around the copper. Connector is different too TRRS.

 

Maybe you/someone could use a standard iPhone headset and attach the pins from the earlier post, and attach Phonak PFE or Sennheiser ear hooks.

 

I have no intention of ever using an iPhone so this doesn't appeal to me (the remote is what I would find really useful).

post #35 of 138
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Originally Posted by aameerp View Post

From my broken TripleFi 10vi cable, I know the wire setup seems a little different - there is an additional red wire coiled around the copper. Connector is different too TRRS.

 

Maybe you/someone could use a standard iPhone headset and attach the pins from the earlier post, and attach Phonak PFE or Sennheiser ear hooks.

 

I have no intention of ever using an iPhone so this doesn't appeal to me (the remote is what I would find really useful).


Care to post some pic of the vi cable. I'm planning to cannibalize my vi cables just as soon as the replacement i ordered arrives. Can you also clarify what the copper is you are referring to that the red wire coils around. From the pin-out of the 4pole plug of the vi cable, my iphone headset, as well as from pinout diagrams from the net,  im guessing that aside from the usual left/right/ground, the fourth pole is the mic, and pressing the mic button shorts the mic to ground as the ground is common. Thus i theorize that making a custom cable with inline mic needs the usual left/right/ground plus an additional wire for the mic and terminate the mic to common ground with the switch in a constant open, press to close.

post #36 of 138

I have a webcam and a BlackBerry camera at the moment - both awful.

 

By copper I mean the earth/ground. So there are 3 wires - red, blue and copper, BUT the copper has a single red going around it, all the way up it seems.

 

I had trouble rewiring it (I didn't need to, but the circumstances - I had an interconnect with a removable plug that was too long, and a soldering iron).

 

I just wanted to fix it, as a backup, but I don't even have a desk vice or soldering iron stand. I balanced the iron on a hammer and he plug in a pear! It was also TRS not TRRS (3 pole instead of 4)

 

I think you're right, above. If you fix/figure it out, please let me know, just for knowledge's sake (my TF10 is unused as I only have a Westone ES cable that I don't want to ruin and I will be reshelling very soon).

post #37 of 138
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I have a webcam and a BlackBerry camera at the moment - both awful.

 

By copper I mean the earth/ground. So there are 3 wires - red, blue and copper, BUT the copper has a single red going around it, all the way up it seems.

 

I had trouble rewiring it (I didn't need to, but the circumstances - I had an interconnect with a removable plug that was too long, and a soldering iron).

 

I just wanted to fix it, as a backup, but I don't even have a desk vice or soldering iron stand. I balanced the iron on a hammer and he plug in a pear! It was also TRS not TRRS (3 pole instead of 4)

 

I think you're right, above. If you fix/figure it out, please let me know, just for knowledge's sake (my TF10 is unused as I only have a Westone ES cable that I don't want to ruin and I will be reshelling very soon).

Im wondering about the vi cable not being trrs as the plug has 4 poles. Also, it being iphone capable, it must conform to the pinout of the iphone jack which is trrs-left/right/ground/mic respectively, with the ground being common among the mic and signal. Where does the red wire terminate in your cable? 
 

post #38 of 138

Terminate? It goes all the way through (wrapped around copper), but I don't know what the inside of the plug looks like - it's moulded (can't be re-sued/fixed), very small and I've now lost it.

 

It goes all the way through, I've attached a sketch made in paint in about 30 seconds (I'm at work). Sorry I can't be of more help - I don't have the plug any more (and never managed or really tried to open it.

 

For someone looking for a custom cable with mic/remote , I would still recommend an ordinary iPhone headset with the connector pins from the earlier post - it should be easier even than fitting a new jack.

 

 

trrs.JPG


Edited by aameerp - 6/8/10 at 8:45am
post #39 of 138

 

I've got a set on order and can take some pics.  But I'm probably not ready to cut it up quite yet and I probably won't until I get my re-shell back from UM... probably a month or so.

 

That said, I'll probably try to replace the plugs when I have something to try them on.

 

-john

post #40 of 138
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Terminate? It goes all the way through (wrapped around copper), but I don't know what the inside of the plug looks like - it's moulded (can't be re-sued/fixed), very small and I've now lost it.

 

It goes all the way through, I've attached a sketch made in paint in about 30 seconds (I'm at work). Sorry I can't be of more help - I don't have the plug any more (and never managed or really tried to open it.

 

For someone looking for a custom cable with mic/remote , I would still recommend an ordinary iPhone headset with the connector pins from the earlier post - it should be easier even than fitting a new jack.

 

 

trrs.JPG

i think thats the mic signal cable and i think it terminates at the sleeve if you cut up the connector. So the plug is trrs, left/right/ground/mic
 

post #41 of 138

I found this on ebay

says they can customize cables with mic

maybe worth a try

http://cgi.ebay.ph/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270593798409&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:PH:1123#ht_1273wt_915

post #42 of 138

Wow, that's expensive...
 

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I found this on ebay

says they can customize cables with mic

maybe worth a try

http://cgi.ebay.ph/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270593798409&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:PH:1123#ht_1273wt_915

post #43 of 138

 

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I found this on ebay

says they can customize cables with mic

maybe worth a try

http://cgi.ebay.ph/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270593798409&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:PH:1123#ht_1273wt_915


Thanks for the heads up!  I've seen their cables mentioned before, but never noticed that option to add a mic.  In addition to the one you linked to, he has some other cables also for sale at different price points.  I found it interesting that he offers a significantly cheaper mic upgrade for his higher tier cables (pricewise).  These seem to be designed for the stock TF10 plug though, but I'll inquire if they can make it compatible for customs. 

 

 

34.90 + 49.90 mic = $84.80
 
46.90 + 49.90 mic = $96.80
 
69.90 + 19.90 mic = $89.80
 
119.90 + 19.90 mic = $139.80
 
Prices are steeper than I had hoped, but there doesn't seem to be any other alternatives.  If they can make it compatible for customs I may still bite though, and so far leaning towards the "Diablo" cable, unless "Silver" is worth the upgrade. We'll see.

 

post #44 of 138
Thread Starter 

Dunno about you guys, but I have the distinct feeling these guys are really taking advantage of the fact head-fiers are willing to spend amounts of money for a cable that a sane person wouldn't spend for a headphone. In the eBay auctions they spend so many more words talking about colors and braidings than about materials and technical stuff. I don't think they're worth even close to that money. Just my very personal opinion.

post #45 of 138

I agree. I wasn't too swayed by the description and was gonna grab their cheapest crystal cables, until I noticed the difference in mic upgrade prices, making the diablo cables not as unreasonable.  I'm still awaiting a response from them if they can make it compatible w/custom IEMs, and for any price discounts perhaps.

 

I'm already quite happy with the cheaper Westone ES cables that I use with my TF10 remolds, but it really sucks that it lacks a mic/remote unlike my original 10vi cable since I use it primarily with my iphone.   It's a shame really that none of the big companies make iphone-compatible custom cables w/mics, because it allows ebay sellers such as these to charge such a price.

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