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What do you mean, too much power?
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More of an observation about the headphones. It doesn't take much volume to get these things (X1's) to distort quickly.

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Originally Posted by TooPoor View Post

Initial impression: Way too much power for my X1's. Soooo that obviously means I need new headphones. I'll use the X1's on my work rig. Thinking about waiting for the new HE-560's... Any other recommendations?

At the risk of starting WW Z,
Maybe a headphone amp with less gain?
If you have the old style M Stage amp, you could try setting the gain to 0dB.

I assume the phones are quite loud when the distort?

I have a pair of Audio-Technical ATH-ESW9s, they are also a very sensitive phone, like the X1.
When I use them with my old M Stage, I usually set the gain to 0dB.
Edited by Chris J - 1/10/14 at 5:48am
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 Well I fully intend on having two setups: one for work and one for home, so I am looking for an additional pair. The tough part is just deciding what will go where (private office so I can use open 'phones :D ).

 

The M Stage so far is great though. Build quality feels up there with my old V200 (it reminds me A LOT of my V200 actually). From what I've read it has more than enough juice to run some pretty power hungry 'phones. I'd REALLY like to pick up another set of HD800's to use at home with it, but am holding out to hear the new HE-400i/HE-560's (which are more affordable). 

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 Well I fully intend on having two setups: one for work and one for home, so I am looking for an additional pair. The tough part is just deciding what will go where (private office so I can use open 'phones :D ).

 

The M Stage so far is great though. Build quality feels up there with my old V200 (it reminds me A LOT of my V200 actually). From what I've read it has more than enough juice to run some pretty power hungry 'phones. I'd REALLY like to pick up another set of HD800's to use at home with it, but am holding out to hear the new HE-400i/HE-560's (which are more affordable). 

it's all just a plot and excuse to buy more headphones!!!!! :biggrin:

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I promised my wife I wouldn't relapse and I had been clean for a year or so. Now I'm looking at the new HiFiMan's, maybe a used HD800, new DAC, etc etc...

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I spy with my little eye an OPA2134 as amp opamp in this HPA-2, so yes it was just a website confusion problem. Audio results will have to wait. Stuffed up sinuses making hearing not so good.
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Thread Starter 
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I spy with my little eye an OPA2134 as amp opamp in this HPA-2, so yes it was just a website confusion problem. Audio results will have to wait. Stuffed up sinuses making hearing not so good.

 

Glad it made the trip to you safe and sound. Feel better soon!

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So is the OPA2134 utter crap or what?
Should I just order the TA/LM op amps or should I give the stock one a try first?
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Originally Posted by conquerator2 View Post

So is the OPA2134 utter crap or what?
Should I just order the TA/LM op amps or should I give the stock one a try first?

Give the stock Op Amp a try.
It's nowhere near as bad as you may think.
It depends on your listening tastes and your headphones and what music you listen to.
I actually don't mind the stock Op Amp with Q701s, I do prefer the LM4562 with the Q701 but I never liked my DT880 with the stock Op Amp.

The LM4562 changed my mind about the M Stage and Dt880s.biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by Chris J View Post

Give the stock Op Amp a try.
It's nowhere near as bad as you may think.
It depends on your listening tastes and your headphones and what music you listen to.
I actually don't mind the stock Op Amp with Q701s, I do prefer the LM4562 with the Q701 but I never liked my DT880 with the stock Op Amp.

The LM4562 changed my mind about the M Stage and Dt880s.biggrin.gif

K I will give it a thorough try xP
I'll be using the K612 with it which is kinda like a warmer Q/K701
Any idea how the TA something compares? I believe the LM is warmer.
Any idea where the stock one stands?
Thanks
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Originally Posted by conquerator2 View Post

K I will give it a thorough try xP
I'll be using the K612 with it which is kinda like a warmer Q/K701
Any idea how the TA something compares? I believe the LM is warmer.
Any idea where the stock one stands?
Thanks

I think (my opinion) is that the LM4562 is a slightly more analytical, detailed and more open sounding Op Amp than the stock Op Amp.
There is not a massive difference in the sound of various Op Amps, in fact, it's pretty subtle.
Not too sure what the TA something is.........I can't think of what Op Amp it could be.
Not all Op Amps should be used with the M Stage.
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Originally Posted by Chris J View Post

I think (my opinion) is that the LM4562 is a slightly more analytical, detailed and more open sounding Op Amp than the stock Op Amp.
There is not a massive difference in the sound of various Op Amps, in fact, it's pretty subtle.
Not too sure what the TA something is.........I can't think of what Op Amp it could be.
Not all Op Amps should be used with the M Stage.

It's an LT1364 sorry
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Originally Posted by conquerator2 View Post

It's an LT1364 sorry

I've never tried the LT!
Sorry!
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I've never tried the LT!
Sorry!

Another one to try then
If I am not entirely happy I'll probly buy both and see which is better.
Anyway, just curious, why did you remove the in caps of your Matrix?
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