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Originally Posted by Maxvla View Post

HPA-2 is fixed +15dB.
Thanks that seems to be the right setting for medium to higher to drive headphones, which is ideal for me wink.gif
post #4577 of 4888
Unless your using sensitive iems you should still probably be fine.

I use my X1s with 10db gain on the M-stage just fine.
post #4578 of 4888
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Originally Posted by chicolom View Post

Unless your using sensitive iems you should still probably be fine.

I use my X1s with 10db gain on the M-stage just fine.

The older model I assume?
How far are you on the volume pot?
post #4579 of 4888
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HPA-2 is fixed +15dB.

 

That's kind of disappointing to hear.

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Hi, I've trawled through most of the posts about the new HPA-2 but couldn't find an exact response - could anyone tell me if I'm better off getting the HPA-1 or 2 to use with HD700's? I understand the new one is set at +15db gain whilst the other is adjustable. Is this something that will make a difference one way or the other given that I just plan to use it with one headphone?

Thanks!

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Originally Posted by elwappo99 View Post

That's kind of disappointing to hear.

I agree though I'll see how it does with little (MA900) to higher (K612) demanding cans and later on probably with the HE-400i/HE-560 wink.gif
Hope it won't leave me disappointed xP
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Originally Posted by cbf123 View Post

Hi, I've trawled through most of the posts about the new HPA-2 but couldn't find an exact response - could anyone tell me if I'm better off getting the HPA-1 or 2 to use with HD700's? I understand the new one is set at +15db gain whilst the other is adjustable. Is this something that will make a difference one way or the other given that I just plan to use it with one headphone?


Thanks!
HD700 isn't sensitive enough for it to matter.
post #4583 of 4888
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Originally Posted by conquerator2 View Post


The older model I assume?
How far are you on the volume pot?

 

Yes.

 

X1s are probably around 10.5 - 11 o'clock. 

 

The M-stage has a nice Alps "Blue Velvet" potentiometer (pictured on the left).  It's a lot beefier than the normal ones you see in amps like the E09K, Magni, O2, etc. which use the smaller green sized one (pictured in the middle).

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by cbf123 View Post
 

Hi, I've trawled through most of the posts about the new HPA-2 but couldn't find an exact response - could anyone tell me if I'm better off getting the HPA-1 or 2 to use with HD700's? I understand the new one is set at +15db gain whilst the other is adjustable. Is this something that will make a difference one way or the other given that I just plan to use it with one headphone?

Thanks!

 

Either will be fine for the HD700s.  They're 150 ohms.

 

I'd get the HPA-2 just because it looks sexier.

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Originally Posted by chicolom View Post

Yes.

X1s are probably around 10.5 - 11 o'clock. 

The M-stage has a nice Alps "Blue Velvet" potentiometer (pictured on the left).  It's a lot beefier than the normal ones you see in amps like the E09K, Magni, O2, etc. which use the smaller green sized one (pictured in the middle).






Either will be fine for the HD700s.  They're 150 ohms.

I'd get the HPA-2 just because it looks sexier.

Wow, cool. Seems like it is still a very powerful amp ( that's cool but I'd expect it since the toroidal transformer is pretty beefy too). That's exactly what I want xP
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Thanks guys!
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Thread Starter 

Regarding the fixed gain - it seems to work well enough with just the single setting. Apparently Matrix received a lot of emails from people who were confuse about how to set the gain on the HPA-1. As a great sounding yet affordable mode, HPA-1 probably attracted many folks who had little to no experience in such things. And after testing many headphones they must have concluded that 15dB was ideal all by itself. 

 

Personally I liked the idea of having adjustable gain but I found myself settling on 10dB and just leaving it there long term. The extra 5dB isn't going to change things much. I tried Grados and Audio Technicas, both of which are pretty easy to drive, and I had sufficient play in the knob for dialing them in. I also used inefficient models like Alpha Dogs and Thunderpants, and those got really loud before the volume knob maxxed out. So it seems reasonable the way it is. 

post #4587 of 4888
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Personally I liked the idea of having adjustable gain but I found myself settling on 10dB and just leaving it there long term.

 

x2

post #4588 of 4888
10dB here also. Perhaps they should have gotten feedback on this before deciding in house.
post #4589 of 4888
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Originally Posted by project86 View Post
 

Regarding the fixed gain - it seems to work well enough with just the single setting. Apparently Matrix received a lot of emails from people who were confuse about how to set the gain on the HPA-1. As a great sounding yet affordable mode, HPA-1 probably attracted many folks who had little to no experience in such things. And after testing many headphones they must have concluded that 15dB was ideal all by itself. 

 

Personally I liked the idea of having adjustable gain but I found myself settling on 10dB and just leaving it there long term. The extra 5dB isn't going to change things much. I tried Grados and Audio Technicas, both of which are pretty easy to drive, and I had sufficient play in the knob for dialing them in. I also used inefficient models like Alpha Dogs and Thunderpants, and those got really loud before the volume knob maxxed out. So it seems reasonable the way it is. 

 

It was a cost reduction.

post #4590 of 4888

Initial impression: Way too much power for my X1's. Soooo that obviously means I need new headphones. I'll use the X1's on my work rig. Thinking about waiting for the new HE-560's... Any other recommendations?

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