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Originally Posted by MrSponge View Post

I sent an e-mail just now. I just want to be 100% sure that I get the latest version. If this is too much of a headache...I might just go get an Asgard. Is the Asgard as versatile/good sounding as the M-Stage? 
Why u want the last version persee? All versions of mstage sounds good..and for me the version 1 sounds warmer and more neutral then the newer version..so for me its a nobrainer..the asgard is a completely different amp...more in ur face amp..also a very good amp for the money!..if thats ur thing..u better forget mstage and go directly for a shiit..imho u cant compare those two..maybe only in pricing..
For me..if u buy from a reputable seller (tamaudio) u will get the most recent model. If its 1.1 or 1.2..for me..and i know..i just sold mine 2weeks ago..the version 1.0 of 2011 stays my favorite for laidback listening to my he300 that i had..only when i changed to the he500 just recently i bought my 337. But ofcourse this is how i feel about it.. I would look for a good condition mstage of 2011..it will be much cheaper and as the quality of the amp is excellent it will be faultless for many years to come biggrin.gif
Good luck with ur search wink.gif
Edited by hifimanrookie - 12/4/12 at 3:23pm
post #3377 of 4892

How does the M-Stage compare to the Lyr? I know it's SS vs Tube, but just so I know I'm making the right decision, value wise. 

post #3378 of 4892
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Originally Posted by Apo0th3karY View Post

How does the M-Stage compare to the Lyr? I know it's SS vs Tube, but just so I know I'm making the right decision, value wise. 
Its SS vs hybrid actually biggrin.gif

i never made a 1 to 1 comparision between both asi sold the mstage since i now have a 337...but i did owned a modded mstage for a year and i did listen to the lyr for at least an hour seperately..so i do this from memory..and all i can say is..compared to the mstage the lyr is a powerhouse.. Allthough i loved the mstage the lyr is a step up..but then again it does cost almost double.. If u have a hard to drive phone and ur budget is around 400.. Then this is the amp to go..and u can upgrade it with other tubes to improve it... I did find it to be a bit blurry on the lcd2 rev 2 and he500 compared to my excellent 337.. For around 400 the shiit is a great deal..as is the matrix for 249. Imho
post #3379 of 4892
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post

 
Its SS vs hybrid actually biggrin.gif
i never made a 1 to 1 comparision between both asi sold the mstage since i now have a 337...but i did owned a modded mstage for a year and i did listen to the lyr for at least an hour seperately..so i do this from memory..and all i can say is..compared to the mstage the lyr is a powerhouse.. Allthough i loved the mstage the lyr is a step up..but then again it does cost almost double.. If u have a hard to drive phone and ur budget is around 400.. Then this is the amp to go..and u can upgrade it with other tubes to improve it... I did find it to be a bit blurry on the lcd2 rev 2 and he500 compared to my excellent 337.. For around 400 the shiit is a great deal..as is the matrix for 249. Imho

 

I had a very similar experience with the Lyr, I own an M Stage and tried a Lyr out one day.

I agree, the Lyr is a step up!

post #3380 of 4892
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post

 

Its SS vs hybrid actually biggrin.gif
i never made a 1 to 1 comparision between both asi sold the mstage since i now have a 337...but i did owned a modded mstage for a year and i did listen to the lyr for at least an hour seperately..so i do this from memory..and all i can say is..compared to the mstage the lyr is a powerhouse.. Allthough i loved the mstage the lyr is a step up..but then again it does cost almost double.. If u have a hard to drive phone and ur budget is around 400.. Then this is the amp to go..and u can upgrade it with other tubes to improve it... I did find it to be a bit blurry on the lcd2 rev 2 and he500 compared to my excellent 337.. For around 400 the shiit is a great deal..as is the matrix for 249. Imho

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Originally Posted by Chris J View Post

 

I had a very similar experience with the Lyr, I own an M Stage and tried a Lyr out one day.

I agree, the Lyr is a step up!

 

Thanks for the responses guys! Good to know! 

post #3381 of 4892
I'm not too versed with turntables and how they work, but would it be able to hook one up directly to the M-stage into the rca input? Or is something else needed in between?
post #3382 of 4892
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Originally Posted by beaver316 View Post

I'm not too versed with turntables and how they work, but would it be able to hook one up directly to the M-stage into the rca input? Or is something else needed in between?

Yes, you need "something else".
You need a phono pre-amp.
I think the cheaper ones start at $100.00 and up.
post #3383 of 4892
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Originally Posted by Chris J View Post


Yes, you need "something else".
You need a phono pre-amp.
I think the cheaper ones start at $100.00 and up.

Yes, and I'd advise spending closer to 200 as a minimum.

post #3384 of 4892
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Originally Posted by JosephsART View Post

 

If headphones are plugged in, the preamp output can not be heard.

 

If headphones are not plugged in, the preamp output can be heard.

 

This is what my M-Stage does anyway.

 

 

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Originally Posted by svoboda123 View Post

Can someone please confirm for me that the pre-outs are not muted when headphones are inserted?  Isn't this a problem for anyone who wants to use it as both?  I mean, speaker sound reaching (often open) headphones and no ability to quiet speakers, such as in an office or late at night?


Although this was 2 weeks 5 days ago posted, I am just reading back from when I left off from this thread, but my with my Matrix, I can hear both headphones and speakers at the same time, i'm not sure why this is different for everyone  else but I prefer it like this. Could 'burn in' headphones whilst actually listening to the music using speakers for e.g. 
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post #3385 of 4892
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Originally Posted by Chris J View Post

 

I had a very similar experience with the Lyr, I own an M Stage and tried a Lyr out one day.

I agree, the Lyr is a step up!


What headphones were you using with the Lyr?  Do you think it would be better for something like k701s than the M stage?

post #3386 of 4892
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post


Why u want the last version persee? All versions of mstage sounds good..and for me the version 1 sounds warmer and more neutral then the newer version..so for me its a nobrainer..the asgard is a completely different amp...more in ur face amp..also a very good amp for the money!..if thats ur thing..u better forget mstage and go directly for a shiit..imho u cant compare those two..maybe only in pricing..
For me..if u buy from a reputable seller (tamaudio) u will get the most recent model. If its 1.1 or 1.2..for me..and i know..i just sold mine 2weeks ago..the version 1.0 of 2011 stays my favorite for laidback listening to my he300 that i had..only when i changed to the he500 just recently i bought my 337. But ofcourse this is how i feel about it.. I would look for a good condition mstage of 2011..it will be much cheaper and as the quality of the amp is excellent it will be faultless for many years to come biggrin.gif
Good luck with ur search wink.gif

How can it be both warmer and more neutral?  Do you mean the version 1 is warmer, but version two more neutral?

post #3387 of 4892
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Originally Posted by nickwin View Post

How can it be both warmer and more neutral?  Do you mean the version 1 is warmer, but version two more neutral?

yes thats what i mean..sorry for the confusement..the newer one has a more US apreciated tuned sound then the chinese appreciated more darker tuned sound v.1 has

post #3388 of 4892
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Originally Posted by nickwin View Post


What headphones were you using with the Lyr?  Do you think it would be better for something like k701s than the M stage?

I used the AKG Q701s.
Based on a short listen, I thought it sounded better than the Q and M Stage.
It added a bit of warmth and fullness and just sounded "right".

Hey, this is post 2100!
Edited by Chris J - 12/10/12 at 2:55pm
post #3389 of 4892

I have one of these units coming in a couple of weeks. Looking into better OP-AMPs right now. Is anything objectively more resolving than Class A Biased LM4562?

 

Thanks! smile.gif


Edited by zalbard - 12/22/12 at 7:27pm
post #3390 of 4892
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Originally Posted by zalbard View Post

I have one of these units coming in a couple of weeks. Looking into better OP-AMPs right now. Is anything objectively more resolving than Class A Biased LM4562?

 

Thanks! smile.gif


opa627 opamps imho check tamaudio.com

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